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Wrexham for the prem?
Sports Illustrated, probably the most prominent sports magazine in the United States, speculates that those two movie stars, who I don't think I have ever seen in anything, could take Wrexham to the Premier League in 10 to 15 years.
I don't know where the fan base would be, unless a lot of people from all over Wales jump on the bandwagon.
https://www.si.com/fannation/soccer/...premier-league
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They will definitely get to the Championship within that time.
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In terms of fanbase, there's already a few Championship clubs they are bigger than.
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Never understood the argument that they do not have the fan base for the top leagues.
They can already draw a similar attendance to what Bournemouth are in the Premier League.
Look at Brentford / Fulham, it is certainly possible to sustain yourself as a premier league side with sub >20k attendances.
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fan base is less important than ever, certainly once you start getting some serious TV money
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When and if they get in the football league the rug will be pulled from under their feet with the ffp rules.
If Giggs the Nevilles et al can't do it with Salford these yanks have no chance.
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I don't see why they would. Fair play to them, and they've grown the fanbase etc and will very likely be back in the football league next season..I think think they will get promoted again too into League One.
Wrexham would then find themselves in a league containing (currently) teams such as Sheff Wed, Derby, Pompey, Ipswich etc. There is no reason to think their fairly limited wealth and by then 15,000 crowds will get them into the championship, let alone the prem..
Could happen of course but I can't see any more than I can see dozens of clubs doing it
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If Barnsley can get in the top flight then so can Wrexham
Staying there is the problem as we found out
They definitely have the support to survive in the championship
Wrexham have the problem that so many of the locals in North Wales follow Liverpool , United and Everton
But they could get 12000 gates in the championship I reckon
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SLUDGE FACTORY
If Barnsley can get in the top flight then so can Wrexham
Staying there is the problem as we found out
They definitely have the support to survive in the championship
Wrexham have the problem that so many of the locals in North Wales follow Liverpool , United and Everton
But they could get 12000 gates in the championship I reckon
They’re getting 9k now in the conference. They’re the same as us, sustain championship football and they could be pushing 20k+ no problem.
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Bruce Parry
They’re getting 9k now in the conference. They’re the same as us, sustain championship football and they could be pushing 20k+ no problem.
Historically their crowds suggest otherwise
http://european-football-statistics....eague/wrex.htm
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Who were the club that went from the old division four to the then top tier of division one in consecutive seasons and then were relegated back to division four in consecutive seasons? 🤔
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Rjk
fan base is less important than ever, certainly once you start getting some serious TV money
But you've got to get into the PL to get that serious TV money...
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Maybe 20 years ago but can’t see it nowadays. In my opinion League 1 is a realistic target.
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The will certainly go through League 2 pretty quickly on what I’ve seen this year.
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chris lee
Never understood the argument that they do not have the fan base for the top leagues.
They can already draw a similar attendance to what Bournemouth are in the Premier League.
Look at Brentford / Fulham, it is certainly possible to sustain yourself as a premier league side with sub >20k attendances.
Bournemouth are the exception to the rule. Brentford are incredibly well run by someone who really knows what he is doing, it is his life's work. Rob and Ryan are actors.
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Captain_Sensible
They will definitely get to the Championship within that time.
I wouldn't say definitely, there are many and varied ways in which they could cock it up, they're doing well now as they have a lot more money that their rivals, the higher up the pyramid they go they will have less and less advantage, and will actually need to be well run if they want to progress
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Pedro de la Rosa
Bournemouth are the exception to the rule. Brentford are incredibly well run by someone who really knows what he is doing, it is his life's work. Rob and Ryan are actors.
Bournemouth had millions pumped in by Russian owners, breaking FFP rules to promote to the Prem.
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I admire how the owners have come in with the plans they have, how they have shown great respect for the club and the community.
I do wish them well but I'm not quite on the hype train just because the club is Welsh. Also I'm slightly jealous of the buzz they have for their club atm. Been a while since I even properly celebrated a goal.
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Sunnysideup
Who were the club that went from the old division four to the then top tier of division one in consecutive seasons and then were relegated back to division four in consecutive seasons? 🤔
Off top of my head I think Northampton?
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Bruce Parry
They’re getting 9k now in the conference. They’re the same as us, sustain championship football and they could be pushing 20k+ no problem.
I don’t know about that…it’s a small town isn’t it?
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Pedro de la Rosa
Bournemouth are the exception to the rule. Brentford are incredibly well run by someone who really knows what he is doing, it is his life's work. Rob and Ryan are actors.
Shit ones too….
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goats
I don’t know about that…it’s a small town isn’t it?
Just had a look on Wiki. As usual population figures are all over the place depending on where the boundary is drawn. Wrexham is either a town of 61,500 or 135,100. Bournemouth has 3x the population of Wrexham (by either count).
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jon1959
Just had a look on Wiki. As usual population figures are all over the place depending on where the boundary is drawn. Wrexham is either a town of 61,500 or 135,100. Bournemouth has 3x the population of Wrexham (by either count).
Sludge will be along in a bit to put you right.
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Trigger
I admire how the owners have come in with the plans they have, how they have shown great respect for the club and the community.
I do wish them well but I'm not quite on the hype train just because the club is Welsh. Also I'm slightly jealous of the buzz they have for their club atm. Been a while since I even properly celebrated a goal.
Yes, very true. The atmosphere and excitement at their game yesterday was reminiscent of our cup tie with Leeds in terms of passion from the home fans ( without the malevolent tension).
My long time Bolton supporting mate always said the journey up the leagues is the best time supporting your club, he wasn’t wrong.
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Don Corleone
Yes, very true. The atmosphere and excitement at their game yesterday was reminiscent of our cup tie with Leeds in terms of passion from the home fans ( without the malevolent tension).
My long time Bolton supporting mate always said the journey up the leagues is the best time supporting your club, he wasn’t wrong.
Bolton, there's a club. I was looking at some of the players they signed during their Premier league days, Holy Crap! The wages they must've been spewing.
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They need to concentrate on the league.They are playing a lot of games.They picked up a few injuries yesterday.
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TWGL1
Pointless comparing with historic attendances. They've never had Hollywood investment before, a documentary series beamed across the world and a shirt sponsor of the calibre of TikTok.
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logic
Bournemouth had millions pumped in by Russian owners, breaking FFP rules to promote to the Prem.
Exactly. Wrexham’s owners aren’t worth anywhere near the Russian owners
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cityhammer
Pointless comparing with historic attendances. They've never had Hollywood investment before, a documentary series beamed across the world and a shirt sponsor of the calibre of TikTok.
Well, it is. It’s Wrexham, it’s not a big place. They’ll also hit the skids at one point and the gloss will wear off. Look at some of the clubs in League One, this isn’t going to be a cake walk
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jon1959
Just had a look on Wiki. As usual population figures are all over the place depending on where the boundary is drawn. Wrexham is either a town of 61,500 or 135,100. Bournemouth has 3x the population of Wrexham (by either count).
Small then….not saying it’s not possible. Burnley manage it
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Pedro de la Rosa
Rob and Ryan are actors.
They are indeed both actors, but they have hired a group of people who not only know what they're doing, but are also people that they can trust. Even after ten years or more, Vincent Tan doesn't have that.
That said, I think they will reach a point at which serious cash is required (as someone else said - look at Salford, or Forest Green even), and that's when they might baulk at paying out more of their own. That would be the time to get someone else on board. If they go up this season, they'd be well placed to go up again, but then things might start to slow down.
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TWGL1
Our attendances were very similar mid 90s. I know many people who wouldn’t watch us then but are now season ticket holders. No reason to think it won’t happen to the people of North Wales.
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jon1959
Just had a look on Wiki. As usual population figures are all over the place depending on where the boundary is drawn. Wrexham is either a town of 61,500 or 135,100. Bournemouth has 3x the population of Wrexham (by either count).
I think you’ll find Wrexham is a City
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Bruce Parry
Our attendances were very similar mid 90s. I know many people who wouldn’t watch us then but are now season ticket holders. No reason to think it won’t happen to the people of North Wales.
They were , but I just don’t think they would consistently achieve big crowds. Even in the boom post war era of attendance figures they appeared to have missed out.
It’s a small club on a roll at the moment , that’s all.
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Bruce Parry
Our attendances were very similar mid 90s. I know many people who wouldn’t watch us then but are now season ticket holders. No reason to think it won’t happen to the people of North Wales.
there are a lot less people in North Wales
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tforturton
They are indeed both actors, but they have hired a group of people who not only know what they're doing, but are also people that they can trust. Even after ten years or more, Vincent Tan doesn't have that.
That said, I think they will reach a point at which serious cash is required (as someone else said - look at Salford, or Forest Green even), and that's when they might baulk at paying out more of their own. That would be the time to get someone else on board. If they go up this season, they'd be well placed to go up again, but then things might start to slow down.
will ferrell ( who has been to a few games with RR ) could well get on board and bring in the LAFC lot, that would make sense
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BLUETIT
I think you’ll find Wrexham is a City
So is Hereford , I’d argue they are of similar size
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tforturton
They are indeed both actors, but they have hired a group of people who not only know what they're doing, but are also people that they can trust. Even after ten years or more, Vincent Tan doesn't have that.
That said, I think they will reach a point at which serious cash is required (as someone else said - look at Salford, or Forest Green even), and that's when they might baulk at paying out more of their own. That would be the time to get someone else on board. If they go up this season, they'd be well placed to go up again, but then things might start to slow down.
They've hired people like Shaun Harvey who did a great job at Leeds :hehe:. Their CEO is from Burton. Mathew Benham has spent his life developing money ball. He even tested it on a club in Denmark first. Wrexham have thrown millions at this and have a half decent side but it isn't the same thing. It isn't data driven, ground breaking stuff. It is just well thought out and sensible, unlike us. Wrexham have a ceiling.