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Nicola Sturgeon to resign as Scotland First Minister.
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Re: Nicola Sturgeon to resign as Scotland First Minister.
Wonderful news first sniff of a difficult subject matters ie tough politics and she is off .
Her Queen Covid utterings masked a failed government.
Drakeford next .
They will all.be found wanting post Covid .
Anyone could deliver stay in doors message not many could overcome the crisis like Cost Living . Drug Deaths . Energy .
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Wonderful news first sniff of a difficult subject matters ie tough politics and she is off .
Her Queen Covid utterings masked a failed government.
Drakeford next .
They will all.be found wanting post Covid .
Anyone could deliver stay in doors message not many could overcome the crisis like Cost Living . Drug Deaths . Energy .
I thought they weren't issues that this country was facing?
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Wonderful news first sniff of a difficult subject matters ie tough politics and she is off .
Her Queen Covid utterings masked a failed government.
Drakeford next .
They will all.be found wanting post Covid .
Anyone could deliver stay in doors message not many could overcome the crisis like Cost Living . Drug Deaths . Energy .
Sturgeon and Drakeford have their weaknesses and failures, but they are head and shoulders above the shower of corrupt incompetents you usually drool over.
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I cannot stand her to be honest or her party. She is a very, very good politician, albeit skilled mainly in the old art of simply blaming everything on anyone else, in this case Westminster.
I think everything got to her tbh and based on the press conference I've just seen she is struggling personally and just seems exhausted.
The trans prisoner issue was mishandled but thats the straw that broke her I think, as opposed to the main issue.
Will be interesting to see what this does to the Scottish Independence debate. I like some of them but quite a few are fairly dislikeable nationalist characters.
May be good news for Labour too, as Scotland is a key area for seat gains
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A pity she is leaving. She's head and shoulders above any cabinet minister in the UK government. I will miss her, I liked her a lot.
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Dorcus
A pity she is leaving. She's head and shoulders above any cabinet minister in the UK government. I will miss her, I liked her a lot.
How do you think she is so much better?
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JamesWales
How do you think she is so much better?
After watching her press conference this morning, the word empathy springs to mind.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Wonderful news first sniff of a difficult subject matters ie tough politics and she is off .
Her Queen Covid utterings masked a failed government.
Drakeford next .
They will all.be found wanting post Covid .
Anyone could deliver stay in doors message not many could overcome the crisis like Cost Living . Drug Deaths . Energy .
I'm not her biggest fan and won't miss her, (mainly because I get fed up of the independence debate), but during Covid of all the UK ones I felt she was the strongest Leader.
I think 'the first sniff of a difficult subject and she is off' line is deranged, but that does seem to be a bit of a common theme to the innocent onlooker
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the other bob wilson
After watching her press conference this morning, the word empathy springs to mind.
Humility perhaps but I don't think she has much empathy really.
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JamesWales
Humility perhaps but I don't think she has much empathy really.
She comes across as a normal person, I can’t think of anyone in the Cabinet who does and I’m struggling when it comes to the Shadow Cabinet.
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the other bob wilson
She comes across as a normal person, I can’t think of anyone in the Cabinet who does and I’m struggling when it comes to the Shadow Cabinet.
Nicola Sturgeon’s preferred pronouns are now were/was.
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the other bob wilson
She comes across as a normal person, I can’t think of anyone in the Cabinet who does and I’m struggling when it comes to the Shadow Cabinet.
Fair enough!
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The combo of her leaving and labour being likely to lead the next UK government drastically lowers the chance of independence and potentially puts the SNP back nearer the category of 'protest group' than legit political party. Only time will tell though.
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jon1959
Sturgeon and Drakeford have their weaknesses and failures, but they are head and shoulders above the shower of corrupt incompetents you usually drool over.
Agreed.
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Can't stand the little shiut.
Her entire motive was independence; when the courts said she couldn't have a second ref, she was done.
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A ghastly old haggis and another jab-pushing &&&& who coerced her citizens into human experimentation.
Farage reckons she's the most horrible leader on a personal level he's met.
Farage says Nicola Sturgeon is the 'most unpleasant, sour-faced, humourless' leader he has ever met!:-
https://youtu.be/8MOP4O8LUr4
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Organ Morgan.
A ghastly old haggis and another jab-pushing &&&& who coerced her citizens into human experimentation.
Farage reckons she's the most horrible leader on a personal level he's met.
Farage says Nicola Sturgeon is the 'most unpleasant, sour-faced, humourless' leader he has ever met!:-
The Trump Arselicker said that. Coming from such an unimpeachable judge of character it must be true or perhaps she just turned on the charm for him.
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Organ Morgan.
A ghastly old haggis and another jab-pushing &&&& who coerced her citizens into human experimentation.
Farage reckons she's the most horrible leader on a personal level he's met.
Farage says Nicola Sturgeon is the 'most unpleasant, sour-faced, humourless' leader he has ever met!:-
https://youtu.be/8MOP4O8LUr4
I wonder if anyone is keeping track of the people whose opinions and pronouncements you think are worthy of sharing?
It must be the A list of the most deranged, obnoxious, fascistic, fantasist arseholes on the planet.
Putting up Farage as a judge on someone else's personality says it all!
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TWGL1
Nicola Sturgeon’s preferred pronouns are now were/was.
Someone who gets so confused with basic grammar such that they can't distinguish between a pronoun and a verb deserves to leave office.
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jon1959
I wonder if anyone is keeping track of the people whose opinions and pronouncements you think are worthy of sharing?
It must be the A list of the most deranged, obnoxious, fascistic, fantasist arseholes on the planet.
Putting up Farage as a judge on someone else's personality says it all!
I created a thread dedicated to someone who fits that profile, Keir Starmer.
I can't help but notice you have given that discussion a wide berth. Is it because you'd have difficulty refuting some or all of what's said of your leader and what he stands for?
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Organ Morgan.
I created a thread dedicated to someone who fits that profile, Keir Starmer.
I can't help but notice you have given that discussion a wide berth. Is it because you'd have difficulty refuting some or all of what's said of your leader and what he stands for?
My leader? :hehe:
Pay attention Organ.
I agree 100% that he fits that profile.
He is not now, and never has been, my leader. I despise him for reasons I have detailed in the past (and upset Claude and Swiss Peter in doing so). I am ex Labour - partly because of Starmer.
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jon1959
My leader? :hehe:
Pay attention Organ.
I agree 100% that he fits that profile.
He is not now, and never has been, my leader. I despise him for reasons I have detailed in the past (and upset Claude and Swiss Peter in doing so). I am ex Labour - partly because of Starmer.
Starmer is a conservative insider, there will be virtually no changes.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
A ghastly old haggis and another jab-pushing &&&& who coerced her citizens into human experimentation.
Farage reckons she's the most horrible leader on a personal level he's met.
Farage says Nicola Sturgeon is the 'most unpleasant, sour-faced, humourless' leader he has ever met!:-
https://youtu.be/8MOP4O8LUr4
I'd agree, why she stopped comedy acting I'll never know, she might not have looked like a schoolboy but some people liked it and it must have been so much less pressure.
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jon1959
My leader? :hehe:
Pay attention Organ.
I agree 100% that he fits that profile.
He is not now, and never has been, my leader. I despise him for reasons I have detailed in the past (and upset Claude and Swiss Peter in doing so). I am ex Labour - partly because of Starmer.
You couldn't upset me Jon, we just disagree on Starmer and Corbyn.
I respect your viewpoint and apart from the above I tend to support the views you outline on this MB :thumbup:
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North Cardiff Blue
I'd agree, why she stopped comedy acting I'll never know, she might not have looked like a schoolboy but some people liked it and it must have been so much less pressure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLKIIR6Nf0M
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Claude Blue
You couldn't upset me Jon, we just disagree on Starmer and Corbyn.
I respect your viewpoint and apart from the above I tend to support the views you outline on this MB :thumbup:
:thumbup:
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jon1959
Sturgeon has her weaknesses and failures, but she is head and shoulders above the shower of corrupt incompetents you usually drool over.
What about the £600k loan and McDonald emails?
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jon1959
:thumbup:
Very interesting Newsagents podcast interview with Diane Abbott yesterday, well worth a listen.
She probably knows Corbyn better than almost anyone so what she says about his views on Brexit rather confirms most peoples suspicions.
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Claude Blue
Very interesting Newsagents podcast interview with Diane Abbott yesterday, well worth a listen.
She probably knows Corbyn better than almost anyone so what she says about his views on Brexit rather confirms most peoples suspicions.
Not listened to it (yet). Corbyn was on the Newsagents podcast on 3 February. Interesting discussion where he repeated that he is and was an EU sceptic. But he did follow the party line pre referendum, even if not enthusiastically. He also did over 100 trade union meetings on Brexit that got no news coverage where he continued that scepticism but asked for a Remain vote - according to my mate who was a Unite rep on one of the NEC sub committees (and Chair of Sheffield Trades Council).
He (may mate, Martin Mayer) was expelled last month for sharing a speaker platform 4/5 years ago with one of the Labour organisations that was subsequently proscribed. Retrospective thought crime!
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jon1959
Not listened to it (yet). Corbyn was on the Newsagents podcast on 3 February. Interesting discussion where he repeated that he is and was an EU sceptic. But he did follow the party line pre referendum, even if not enthusiastically. He also did over 100 trade union meetings on Brexit that got no news coverage where he continued that scepticism but asked for a Remain vote - according to my mate who was a Unite rep on one of the NEC sub committees (and Chair of Sheffield Trades Council).
He (may mate, Martin Mayer) was expelled last month for sharing a speaker platform 4/5 years ago with one of the Labour organisations that was subsequently proscribed. Retrospective thought crime!
This is one, of many, problems I have with Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party.
Most knew that he was, at least, eurosceptic and probably full on anti-EU and if he was as honest and decent as you say then he should never have led what is a massively pro-EU party. Membership of the EU is hardly a minor issue and surely the leader must be fully behind major party policy.
Once the party and it's membership backed remain he should have resigned the leadership. As a supposed man of principle I'm surprised he didn't. Or perhaps he isn't as principled as you think and he abandoned them to keep the trappings of high office.
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Claude Blue
Very interesting Newsagents podcast interview with Diane Abbott yesterday, well worth a listen.
She probably knows Corbyn better than almost anyone so what she says about his views on Brexit rather confirms most peoples suspicions.
She knows stuff no one would want to know or even imagine about him.
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cyril evans awaydays
Someone who gets so confused with basic grammar such that they can't distinguish between a pronoun and a verb deserves to leave office.
I take it you are perfectly amazing in everything you do right ?
I bet you were a high flier in your time wasn’t you :hehe:
I would take the odd mistake in grammar ( when posting on a phone ) than swap my life with yours any day of the week
Harsh comments I know but you could have said **** all couldn’t you , but you can’t resist it
Melt
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I doubt Corbyn was attracted to 'the trappings of high office'.
Maybe the trappings of the allotment and the labour hall podium?
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TWGL1
I take it you are perfectly amazing in everything you do right ?
I bet you were a high flier in your time wasn’t you :hehe:
I would take the odd mistake in grammar ( when posting on a phone ) than swap my life with yours any day of the week
Harsh comments I know but you could have said **** all couldn’t you , but you can’t resist it
Melt
You thought was/were were pronouns because you posted from a phone?
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It was a lighthearted quip , are you on the spectrum or something Ffs
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TWGL1
It was a lighthearted quip , are you on the spectrum or something Ffs
Yeah was quite obviously a joke.
Headline in the Metro today is 'Sturgone'. I emailed them this afternoon to advise of their poor editorial standards in letting that spelling mistake get on the front page
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JamesWales
Yeah was quite obviously a joke.
Headline in the Metro today is 'Sturgone'. I emailed them this afternoon to advise of their poor editorial standards in letting that spelling mistake get on the front page
Only Dripfool to go now
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TWGL1
I take it you are perfectly amazing in everything you do right ?
I bet you were a high flier in your time wasn’t you :hehe:
I would take the odd mistake in grammar ( when posting on a phone ) than swap my life with yours any day of the week
Harsh comments I know but you could have said **** all couldn’t you , but you can’t resist it
Melt
How dare you confront the Abertridwr antagonist !
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Sturgeon will go down in history as the person who saved the Union, whether by accident or design.