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Another Colwill thread.
Russell Martin thought he was “outstanding” today.
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the other bob wilson
Russell Martin thought he was “outstanding” today.
Did he elaborate?
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Tuerto
Did he elaborate?
No literally just that but interesting comment on his "relationship" with our fans 😂😂
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Nobody's Rep
No literally just that but interesting comment on his "relationship" with our fans
I expect a 5 million bid from Southampton during the summer. :thumbup:
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I think he’s had a good season, needs to add goals and assists but that’s also down to how we play.
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Thought he was excellent second half when he moved into the centre.
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Tuerto
I expect a 5 million bid from Southampton during the summer. :thumbup:
After the game I checked the stats on the BBC Sport website and read their report. No quote from Martin on there but Colwill did get a mention in the match report by Michael Pearlman "Horvath's goal was leading a charmed life with Aribo's deflected effort going just over the crossbar, while Adam Armstrong blazed over after Rubin Colwill's terrible backpass sent him clear."
Edit: formatting is f*cked! :shrug:
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I think Martin said Colwill was brave.
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He did have an especially good game today. And played for 90+ minutes.
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He did have an especially good game today. And played for 90+ minutes.
I make the point in my blog piece that he played a hundred and six minutes yesterday and got better the longer the game went on.
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the other bob wilson
I make the point in my blog piece that he played a hundred and six minutes yesterday and got better the longer the game went on.
I thought he was MOTM yesterday!!
I hope we have 3-4 more local lads in the team for next season, at the very least they care about the club and are guaranteed to give 100%
As a fan I can live with that, regardless of wether they make a mistake or two
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olderblue
I thought he was MOTM yesterday!!
I hope we have 3-4 more local lads in the team for next season, at the very least they care about the club and are guaranteed to give 100%
As a fan I can live with that, regardless of wether they make a mistake or two
He made a few daft decisions yesterday. Not sure if he was trying to lob the keeper when it was a two on one with Ashford in space outside him, or whether he just got the pass wrong. He also just stood in the way, not knowing what to do, when Conte was lining up a first time shot. However, he does the unexpected sometimes and is one of the few City players that can get you off your seat. I'd much rather have Colwill's frequent mistakes and occasional brilliance, than Turnbull's consistent mediocrity.
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TWGL1
I think Martin said Colwill was brave.
I didn't hear that but I only watched the one on our club site where he said colwill was outstanding as tobw quotes above
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I think Buluts will stay and it would be a shame to waste another year with managers learning about players. I doubt he'll get an extension if he can't explain to Uncle Vinny how he is going to get a few of these academy kids worth serious offers and Rubin will be heading that category.
Ashford & I Davies are similar to Grant IMO, they are not "wingers" but inside forwards and need to play in that inside channel rather than the touchline. I can see us three at the back, wingbacks with two sitters as cover and Rubin gets the attacking central midfielder slot he undoubtedly should be given.
I said on the other forum that Bulut still insists on square pegs in round holes and when they all rotated back into their preferred position the team played better than multi million pound SOTON.
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I didn't hear that but I only watched the one on our club site where he said colwill was outstanding as tobw quotes above
I think TWGL1 was joking.
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He definitely said Colwill was outstanding.
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the other bob wilson
Russell Martin thought he was “outstanding” today.
So does AQM. I'm certain Bulut wanted to keep him on the pitch for the whole game as much for his influence as well as proving a point to Colwill as well.
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Hilts
I think TWGL1 was joking.
Okay a bit of a whoosh for me then ?? I still don't get it hough 😂😂
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Russ knows best then, Because not one person commented on Colwill's performance in the match thread or lifted one of the many threads on hear about him to offer their praise. Just goes to show that us fans haven't got a clue, eh..
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Okay a bit of a whoosh for me then ?? I still don't get it hough 😂😂
Russell Martin is known for using the word brave about his players in interviews.
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I think Buluts will stay and it would be a shame to waste another year with managers learning about players. I doubt he'll get an extension if he can't explain to Uncle Vinny how he is going to get a few of these academy kids worth serious offers and Rubin will be heading that category.
Ashford & I Davies are similar to Grant IMO, they are not "wingers" but inside forwards and need to play in that inside channel rather than the touchline. I can see us three at the back, wingbacks with two sitters as cover and Rubin gets the attacking central midfielder slot he undoubtedly should be given.
I said on the other forum that Bulut still insists on square pegs in round holes and when they all rotated back into their preferred position the team played better than multi million pound SOTON.
I'd agree with most of that, apart from us playing better than Soton. For 60+ minutes they battered us.
What yesterday did prove was that with Bulut's low press we need pace and directness in transition. This was provided (yesterday) by Tanner, Ashford, Colwill (when playing 10), Meite (when he played right wing) and Conte.
Bowler, Wintle (when playing 10) and Turnbull do not supply this. Furthermore, for all their qualities, Collins and Ng are not exactly 'buccaneering' full backs.
So your comments about square pegs in round holes is spot on. The positional changes of Colwill and Meite as well as the introduction of Conte were the game changers.
I really hope Isaak Davies gets a chance next season, we need his pace. Eli King could provide a physical presence absent in Wintle and Siopis. Those two, Ashford and the correct use of Rubin could be like 4 new signings.
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Tuerto
Russ knows best then, Because not one person commented on Colwill's performance in the match thread or lifted one of the many threads on hear about him to offer their praise. Just goes to show that us fans haven't got a clue, eh..
I like you didnt go.
My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.
Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.
The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.
If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.
Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.
A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.😂
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Hilts
I like you didnt go.
My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.
Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.
The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.
If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.
Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.
A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.
I think it's pretty simple when it comes to Colwill. He has to create a bit more and score a few more. When-If that happens then we can put the argument to bed in my opinion. I've no doubt he played well yesterday, and i reckon i know what Russ is talking about having seen Colwill play on numerous occasions. If he turns in to a consistent championship player then i'll take that, and i would have when he first came on to the scene. Plenty on hear (as usual) got carried away, got all emotional because he's Welsh, Academy etc, then did their usual thing where they dig their heels in and blame everyone else because it isn't working out as they expected. That's the problem on here, it's infantile, and we van't get a decent debate going because of all the emotive shit. Mozzer can't let Bulut go because he played futsbal once in 1989. As for Colwill, we'll see how far he can go, and good luck to him, and the other young players coming through. :thumbup:
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Hilts
Russell Martin is known for using the word brave about his players in interviews.
Cheers - I find Martin an odious tosser who has convinced himself he is the next best thing - me I think he is classless and has achieved nothing to date - on that basis I tend to avoid listening to him but yesterday was an exception 😂😂
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Tuerto
I think it's pretty simple when it comes to Colwill. He has to create a bit more and score a few more. When-If that happens then we can put the argument to bed in my opinion. I've no doubt he played well yesterday, and i reckon i know what Russ is talking about having seen Colwill play on numerous occasions. If he turns in to a consistent championship player then i'll take that, and i would have when he first came on to the scene. Plenty on hear (as usual) got carried away, got all emotional because he's Welsh, Academy etc, then did their usual thing where they dig their heels in and blame everyone else because it isn't working out as they expected. That's the problem on here, it's infantile, and we van't get a decent debate going because of all the emotive shit. Mozzer can't let Bulut go because he played futsbal once in 1989. As for Colwill, we'll see how far he can go, and good luck to him, and the other young players coming through. :thumbup:
Colwill has been done to death on here.
As someone said further up, he’s littered with mistakes with the occasional brilliance.
The biggest positive for Colwill is his biggest weakness. Risk taking and decision making. He’s unpredictable.
Personally I don’t think he’s a great footballer (yet) but is enjoyable to watch and I’d rather him in the team than out of it.
Now people hopefully leave him alone to mature and develop.
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Hilts
I like you didnt go.
My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.
Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.
The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.
If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.
Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.
A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.😂
I couldn't go either but my boy said he did well especially when he played 10
Felt he probably didn't enough support to tanner early on in terms of defensive duties
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Hilts
I like you didnt go.
My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.
Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.
The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.
If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.
Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.
A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.😂
I share your lack of knowledge.
He is the one player I enjoy watching even when the team isn't doing so well.
I haven't enjoyed watching the skill of any one player since Lee Tomlin.
When he gets slagged of on here I find myself shaking my head , he has come through our youth system, there is little tolerance.
At the moment everyone is screaming for the youngsters to be played
soon as they miss place a pass and we lose they will be getting destroyed on here.
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Jimmy the Jock
I share your lack of knowledge.
He is the one player I enjoy watching even when the team isn't doing so well.
I haven't enjoyed watching the skill of any one player since Lee Tomlin.
When he gets slagged of on here I find myself shaking my head , he has come through our youth system, there is little tolerance.
At the moment everyone is screaming for the youngsters to be played
soon as they miss place a pass and we lose they will be getting destroyed on here.
And the last two sentences are what I mean about the emotional stuff that's used in support of Colwill, none of it that true in my opinion, but used by people nevertheless. There's not much articulation on what Colwill does well and what he needs to improve on, that's something I can't understand. It doesn't make for good debate, especially when we're all on the same side.
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Colwill's biggest weakness at the moment is composure. There's plenty of times this season and in yesterday's game where he rushed rather than composing himself before shooting/passing etc.
I feel this down to two things:
1) he's still young and learning the game and this is something that will develop with more game time. Game time that is consistent 80-90 minutes a game rather than 15-20 minutes cameos.
2) due to not being consistently in the team he is trying to hard to do something spectacular to impress his manager.
For me to help him develop Bulut or whoever is our next manager needs to trust him as the 10.
I will say for Bulut he has helped Rubin to develop his work rate around the pitch which was an issue last season and earlier this season.
The style of football we have played will never help a creative player but yesterday showed having players around you with pace and energy and can play some football will always bring the best out of players like Colwill.
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Colwill's biggest weakness at the moment is composure. There's plenty of times this season and in yesterday's game where he rushed rather than composing himself before shooting/passing etc.
I feel this down to two things:
1) he's still young and learning the game and this is something that will develop with more game time. Game time that is consistent 80-90 minutes a game rather than 15-20 minutes cameos.
2) due to not being consistently in the team he is trying to hard to do something spectacular to impress his manager.
For me to help him develop Bulut or whoever is our next manager needs to trust him as the 10.
I will say for Bulut he has helped Rubin to develop his work rate around the pitch which was an issue last season and earlier this season.
The style of football we have played will never help a creative player but yesterday showed having players around you with pace and energy and can play some football will always bring the best out of players like Colwill.
I don't agree with all of that, (some of it i do) but good post. It's a well thought out argument which holds some water in my opinion, and you've been critical of the player as well which gives balance. My problem is the posters who think it's all one way and have this pretty unhealthy obsession with young players who come through our system (Even more so if they're Welsh) Good post :thumbup:
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bluebirds17
Colwill's biggest weakness at the moment is composure. There's plenty of times this season and in yesterday's game where he rushed rather than composing himself before shooting/passing etc.
I feel this down to two things:
1) he's still young and learning the game and this is something that will develop with more game time. Game time that is consistent 80-90 minutes a game rather than 15-20 minutes cameos.
2) due to not being consistently in the team he is trying to hard to do something spectacular to impress his manager.
For me to help him develop Bulut or whoever is our next manager needs to trust him as the 10.
I will say for Bulut he has helped Rubin to develop his work rate around the pitch which was an issue last season and earlier this season.
The style of football we have played will never help a creative player but yesterday showed having players around you with pace and energy and can play some football will always bring the best out of players like Colwill.
He’s the same age as Etete who’s been totally written off as a ‘at best league one striker’
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He’s the same age as Etete who’s been totally written off as a ‘at best league one striker’
I think Etete will be a good Championship striker. He's got a nice touch and is quick. His issue is he needs to get tougher. I find he's too easy to knock off the ball which unfortunately at the level if you are playing as the lone striker you can't allow. He can also do with working on his heading as well.
Again he's been unfortunate that at times this season he's been required to play as a target man which isn't his game.
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He was good when he was moved into the number 10 role yesterday, there's really no point playing him out wide and I don't think Turnbull suits playing as the attacking midfielder
He beats players with ease. There was a point in stoppage time yesterday where he brought a clearance down, beat their defender, went out wide, beat another two and was pulled down for a free kick. I can't see anyone else in our team doing that.
What he does lack is aggression and I think he may be one of the worst players at heading the ball in the league despite being about 7 feet tall. He has certainly improved defensively though this season
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And the last two sentences are what I mean about the emotional stuff that's used in support of Colwill, none of it that true in my opinion, but used by people nevertheless. There's not much articulation on what Colwill does well and what he needs to improve on, that's something I can't understand. It doesn't make for good debate, especially when we're all on the same side.
He makes space ,can pick a pass and is capable of beating his man .
Its a good question and I shall pay more attention in future . He has the magical talent to change a game with any of the above.
Tanner started with that amazing goal against Swansea , he hasn't shown much since, yesterday he was selected in the defence against a team known for fast attacking football, he looked like a football player again going forward .
I am happy to wait with youngsters and give them more than a chance , especially home grown youngsters .
The belief that you can add King, Davies and any other player out on loan and build a side seems fanciful , you need to mix the youth with a degree of experience. I will be happy to be proved wrong on that one.
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Jimmy the Jock
He makes space ,can pick a pass and is capable of beating his man .
Its a good question and I shall pay more attention in future . He has the magical talent to change a game with any of the above.
Tanner started with that amazing goal against Swansea , he hasn't shown much since, yesterday he was selected in the defence against a team known for fast attacking football, he looked like a football player again going forward .
I am happy to wait with youngsters and give them more than a chance , especially home grown youngsters .
The belief that you can add King, Davies and any other player out on loan and build a side seems fanciful , you need to mix the youth with a degree of experience. I will be happy to be proved wrong on that one.
Fair enough Jim. I don't doubt Colwill's natural ability and how he has come on this season on other aspects of his game. The issue i have is his end product. In my opinion it's not great, the success rate (from his point of view) isn't the best. For him to become a top end Championship player-Lower premier league player then it has to improve. It has to, because that's the role he plays. People have a go at Siopis or ralls, or whoever else based on their skill set, what is achievable on their part. And when they fail they're rightly criticised. Colwill possesses a different skill set, and when he fails to make the correct decisions then it's fair game, and he'd know that himself. Problem is that it's ignored on here because he's creative, local, Welsh, came through the academy etc. If people are happy with one great bit of skill in 5 then fair enough, although i bet Colwill isn't, and the people who will or can determine his future wont be either.
I always give him credit when he plays well, has done some exceptional, but for balance i think it only fair to pick up on his frailties as well. That isn't the case on here, people ignore stuff which is important in my opinion, andwe can't really have a sensible debate because some posters opinions are completely clouded with a blind loyalty towards local players, especially if they have come through the ranks. :thumbup:
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Jimmy the Jock
I am happy to wait with youngsters and give them more than a chance , especially home grown youngsters .
The belief that you can add King, Davies and any other player out on loan and build a side seems fanciful , you need to mix the youth with a degree of experience. I will be happy to be proved wrong on that one.
I'm not sure anybody expects them to be the foundation of the side, but they would be an appropriate way to add squad depth. The two most successful English Clubs are Liverpool and Man City, they only operate a squad of about 20 senior players and then supplement with talented youngsters.
We currently have 23 senior pro's in our squad excluding Tanner and Rubin Colwill who still qualify as U21's. In addition Antwi counts as a senior player and we have 7 more senior players out on loan (Rinhomota, Adams, Davies, Evans, Bagan, Zimba and Ojo). In addition to Tanner and Rubin; King, Conte, Luthra, Turner, Denham, Fagan-Walcott and Kavanagh will, if they are still with us, become senior players next season.
We have a huge squad, we just need more quality guaranteed starters and fewer senior fringe players. Quality not quantity.
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Hilts
I like you didnt go.
My son came straight through the door and said Colwill was superb and just doesnt get why he doesnt play every week.
Ive got loads of friends who support Swansea. Every single one of them commented that they couldnt understand why he didnt start v them as he was different class when he came on.
The threads ive seen this season when weve been utter shit and its turned into Colwill bashing has been ridiculous. So yeah I think fans sometimes dont have a clue.
If Colwill did go to Southampton or a top Championship side im sure hed do really well.
Personally I think hes a real talent who looks comfortable on the ball. For someone so big he should improve his strength and aggression on the ball.
A better coach would get better out of him. I think minimum he will be a top Championship player - but of course i may know nothing as a fan.😂
It's just the consistency that's been keeping him out I think and some decision-making, but he has progressed this season, I would give him and Ashford Man of the match, they were both superb and no doubt will have scouts looking through our videos of this season and keeping a closer eye on their development, things are looking a little bit better on the young player development. Conte also set up the first goal and it was good to see him giving everything and looking surprisingly confident.
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My fear is that Colwill will get fed up and another club will snap him up and just about guarantee him a role. Russell Martin being one such manager and who could blame Colwill for leaving to go to a Soton type club
Personally I love watching him play, Conte is also someone who looks very interesting and seemed very self assured on the ball
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My fear is that Colwill will get fed up and another club will snap him up and just about guarantee him a role. Russell Martin being one such manager and who could blame Colwill for leaving to go to a Soton type club
Personally I love watching him play, Conte is also someone who looks very interesting and seemed very self assured on the ball
Two things I really liked with Conte, when the keeper had the ball, he was looking for space and calling for it, more impressive was the way he ran with the ball, looking to see what was on??
Long way to go, but for his first introduction to the team, he looked confident, composed and enthusiastic
Great to see
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pipster
My fear is that Colwill will get fed up and another club will snap him up and just about guarantee him a role. Russell Martin being one such manager and who could blame Colwill for leaving to go to a Soton type club
Personally I love watching him play, Conte is also someone who looks very interesting and seemed very self assured on the ball
It’d be great business for the club if Martin offers millions for Colwill. We should bite his hand off. I await all these offers for him in the summer. If it does happen, though I deeply suspect it won’t, he’d be a fool to hang around a Tan-owned Cardiff City anyway.