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My first Brexit quetion (and probably last)
If the country votes in the referendum to leave the EU, do we actually have to do it?
Isn't this to gauge opinion rather than actually make it real.
Anyone explain to me (as a political dummy) what the procedure will be.
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It would have to be ratified by parliament, but I can't imagine a situation where they would overrule a referendum, unless there were legal challenges or something
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Cameron has said he will accept the will of the people and will immediately look to invoke article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. It would be interesting to see how parliament would look to handle the situation...
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Re: My first Brexit quetion (and probably last)
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
If the country votes in the referendum to leave the EU, do we actually have to do it?
Isn't this to gauge opinion rather than actually make it real.
Anyone explain to me (as a political dummy) what the procedure will be.
I understand the government stated very clearly that the results of the referendum are binding on the government although I imagine it will have to be ratified by Parliament which will be automatic. I hooe we never have to find out what the orocess is though!
REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN
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Dénia Bluebird
I understand the government stated very clearly that the results of the referendum are binding on the government although I imagine it will have to be ratified by Parliament which will be automatic. I hooe we never have to find out what the orocess is though!
REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN REMAIN
I'm pretty sure you never will if you live in Spain.
Do you get a vote if you live
abroad - I'm assuming you're British by the way.
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Dr Lecter
I'm pretty sure you never will if you live in Spain.
Do you get a vote if you live
abroad - I'm assuming you're British by the way.
Yes I am Welsh and yes expats get a vote for the first 15 years of their "exile". Quite amazing since we have to pay if we use NHS hospitals on the rare occasions we return.
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I suspect that if we get a Brexit vote, the EU will panic and start some proper negotiations which would lead to a 2nd Referendum.
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Dénia Bluebird
Yes I am Welsh and yes expats get a vote for the first 15 years of their "exile". Quite amazing since we have to pay if we use NHS hospitals on the rare occasions we return.
Cheers for that. Seems strange to me that you can still vote even after you leave but I guess as you're still a uk citizen then legally its your right.
Are you eligible to vote in Spanish elections as well?
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Dr Lecter
Cheers for that. Seems strange to me that you can still vote even after you leave but I guess as you're still a uk citizen then legally its your right.
Are you eligible to vote in Spanish elections as well?
We can vote in local council elections but NOT in the National (General) elections. I understand exactly the same arrangements apply to foreigners kiving in UK.
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Dénia Bluebird
We can vote in local council elections but NOT in the National (General) elections. I understand exactly the same arrangements apply to foreigners kiving in UK.
Ah right. Learned something new today then. I was under the impression that only people living here could vote in the referendum.
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Gloucester Blue
I suspect that if we get a Brexit vote, the EU will panic and start some proper negotiations which would lead to a 2nd Referendum.
I doubt that, we already have very good terms with the EU, if they give us even better other countries will want it too.
If we leave they will slap trade tariffs on us to make an example of us. To put off others from leaving.
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They don't have to by law accept the leave vote but Cameron has already said he'll do what the people vote for.
If we do vote leave then it won't be overnight we have to wait at least 2 years essentially giving a 2 year notice to Brussels, this gives us the time to sort out trade with other countries
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Rjk
I doubt that, we already have very good terms with the EU, if they give us even better other countries will want it too.
If we leave they will slap trade tariffs on us to make an example of us. To put off others from leaving.
The UK spends millions on German cars. They would be stupid to up the tarrifs.
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Mad as a fish
The UK spends millions on German cars. They would be stupid to up the tarrifs.
And I suspect that Britons will continue to spend millions on German Cars, more to the point is whether the Germans will want to buy anything from the UK. As someone earlier said,there seems little doubt that the countries of the EU will want to make an example out of the UK. Best in my opinion is not to allow a Brexit to happen, life doesnt seem too bad to me right now?
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Vote to Remaina d the UK is stuck with EU rules period.
Vote to Leave and the EU will come begging for us to return as an associate member just like they did to Denmark who refused to sign the 1992 Treaty. Hasn't done the Danes any harm.
The only opportunity to seek reform and remain in the EU hub is to vote Leave. The EU will not want an EU without the UK in it in some capacity.
Saying all this, I still have not made up my mind :shrug:
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Cretin Hop
Vote to Remaina d the UK is stuck with EU rules period.
Vote to Leave and the EU will come begging for us to return as an associate member just like they did to Denmark who refused to sign the 1992 Treaty. Hasn't done the Danes any harm.
The only opportunity to seek reform and remain in the EU hub is to vote Leave. The EU will not want an EU without the UK in it in some capacity.
Saying all this, I still have not made up my mind :shrug:
I'm not so sure about that. I wanted Scotland to stay in the UK but if they had voted out then my view would have changed to something along the lines of, "ok, good luck, seeya then". I expect most of Europe feel the same way to us.
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Some stuff just come up on Facebook saying the 77-year old mining disaster hero who tried to intervene during the attack on that MP has been dead for three years. Anybody else getting this?
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darran1927
They don't have to by law accept the leave vote but Cameron has already said he'll do what the people vote for.
If we do vote leave then it won't be overnight we have to wait at least 2 years essentially giving a 2 year notice to Brussels, this gives us the time to sort out trade with other countries
Which is very unlikely to be enough time to sort anything out with anyone let alone every country that we currently have a deal with via the EU.
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If I was an MP whose constituency voted to stay whilst the uk as a whole voted to leave what should I do?
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Wales-Bales
Some stuff just come up on Facebook saying the 77-year old mining disaster hero who tried to intervene during the attack on that MP has been dead for three years. Anybody else getting this?
Quite impressive if true.
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Mad as a fish
The UK spends millions on German cars. They would be stupid to up the tarrifs.
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Dénia Bluebird
And I suspect that Britons will continue to spend millions on German Cars, more to the point is whether the Germans will want to buy anything from the UK. As someone earlier said,there seems little doubt that the countries of the EU will want to make an example out of the UK. Best in my opinion is not to allow a Brexit to happen, life doesnt seem too bad to me right now?
We spend over £10 billion a year on German cars.
Even a 5% tariff on cars would see BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz & Volkswagen having to pay many hundreds of millions of Euros each year to continue selling at the level they do (or putting an extra couple of grand on the selling price of many models and risk competitors becoming more attractive).
As the auto industry accounts for the largest chunk of GDP of any industrial sector in Germany, I can't see them being happy if their government were to push for tariffs to make an example of us.
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Ainsley Harriott
We spend over £10 billion a year on German cars.
Even a 5% tariff on cars would see BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz & Volkswagen having to pay many hundreds of millions of Euros each year to continue selling at the level they do (or putting an extra couple of grand on the selling price of many models and risk competitors becoming more attractive).
As the auto industry accounts for the largest chunk of GDP of any industrial sector in Germany, I can't see them being happy if their government were to push for tariffs to make an example of us.
^^^^
This
It's all fear porn.
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Wales-Bales
Some stuff just come up on Facebook saying the 77-year old mining disaster hero who tried to intervene during the attack on that MP has been dead for three years. Anybody else getting this?
Have you looked any further in to this? I was just having a look what people are saying, there seems to be some discrepancies in his marriage certificates and the electoral record, if only I knew someone who was an expert in this sort of thing...
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Mrs Steve R
Have you looked any further in to this? I was just having a look what people are saying, there seems to be some discrepancies in his marriage certificates and the electoral record, if only I knew someone who was an expert in this sort of thing...
It's a mind field
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Tall Midget
It's a mind field
Well I don't mind, if you don't mind :tongue: