The fake epidemic of fake news

This has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen, the BBC advising people on how to avoid 'fake news' :hehe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/38053324

Some of the biggest peddlers of ‘fake news’ and ‘post-truth politics’ out there are saying the same things, here are just a few..

CNN recommended a "triple check before you share" rule, maybe they should take their own advice?
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/30/medi...inkId=30509412

How To Recognize A Fake News Story
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b058ce7aaba169

Angela Merkel warns against internet trolls and 'fake news' that threaten democracy
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/angela-merk...ocracy-1593148

Fake News May Not Be Protected Speech
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...otected-speech

Don't be fooled by this sudden concern for truth, this is a fake epidemic of fake news, this is an attack on alternative media, google and facebook are already banning 'fake news' web sites from their advertising networks and there are calls for more to be done, you don't have to be a Philadelphia lawyer to work out where this is going..

It looks a bit coordinated to me :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It looks a bit coordinated to me :biggrin:

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A fine example of The Hegelian dialectic :biggrin: I'm sure they have a solution in mind. :hehe:

I suppose you pick and choose where you get your information.

What sites do you two use?.

Al Monitor is good.

Bloomberg is good for reporting on things. But not for opinion. They release a ridiculous amount.

I'e subscribed to: http://foreignpolicy.com/ Is that ok or is it totally American leaning?.

Most of the BBC stuff is far better than you'll find on unpaid media.

Twitter have also jumped on the "fake news" bandwagon, so it was quite bizzare that when a user discovered a massive 5,000+ child porn ring openly sharing videos and photos, Twitter decided to suspend the person because they reported it!

So far the non-fake news MSM have failed to mention it :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Twitter have also jumped on the "fake news" bandwagon, so it was quite bizzare that when a user discovered a massive 5,000+ child porn ring openly sharing videos and photos, that Twitter decided to ban the person who reported it!

So far the non-fake news MSM have failed to mention it :sherlock:

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do you see the bogey man everywhere ? do you do anything but sit on your pc all day, get a life before armageddon :hehe: ps when is it :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by Packerman

do you see the bogey man everywhere ? do you do anything but sit on your pc all day, get a life before armageddon :hehe: ps when is it :sherlock:

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You think it's funny that children are being abused?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You think it's funny that children are being abused?

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can you show me where i said that, talk about putting words :angry:

Actually the Daily Star of all people decided to report on it - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...media-accounts

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You think it's funny that children are being abused?

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ps msm are fairly interested in the football abuse story, lead story on the BBC :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Actually the Daily Star of all people decided to report on it - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...media-accounts

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an oops for you again :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Packerman

an oops for you again :hehe:

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Well the story has been verified as being true.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Well the story has been verified as being true.

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Does the fact that some white helmets make some stories up mean all aid workers are not credible.

Like the fact some migrants were playing up to the cameras. Does that mean all migrants are now liars on a smash and grab job?. No.

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Originally Posted by LordKenwyne

I suppose you pick and choose where you get your information.

What sites do you two use?.

Al Monitor is good.

Bloomberg is good for reporting on things. But not for opinion. They release a ridiculous amount.

I'e subscribed to: http://foreignpolicy.com/ Is that ok or is it totally American leaning?.

Most of the BBC stuff is far better than you'll find on unpaid media.

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I picked those randomly out of the 'fake news' search results, my point is they are all saying the same things, I just selected a few that's all, I've never heard of Al Monitor and I don't use foreignpolicy either.

You must have seen some of my previous posts about the bbc?

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Originally Posted by LordKenwyne

Does the fact that some white helmets make some stories up mean all aid workers are not credible.

Like the fact some migrants were playing up to the cameras. Does that mean all migrants are now liars on a smash and grab job?. No.

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I certainly don't think like that, every case should be looked at individually.

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Originally Posted by Packerman

do you see the bogey man everywhere ? do you do anything but sit on your pc all day, get a life before armageddon :hehe: ps when is it :sherlock:

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Actually you don't have to do anything, the info is all over the internet. I guess that's what this fake news thing is all about.

I like the idea of there being a relatively honest and believable Mainstream news.
In that respect I like Channel 4 news more than other mainstreams.

Other than that its pick'n'mix and take your chances.

That BBC one is hilarious – not just spotting fake news but how to grass it up. It’s not like the Beeb have ever tried to shape our perception through omission and emphasis is it? Still, at least they don't make stuff up.......

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Originally Posted by Vimana.

I like the idea of there being a relatively honest and believable Mainstream news.
In that respect I like Channel 4 news more than other mainstreams.

Other than that its pick'n'mix and take your chances.

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I'm with you - a range of news sources provides a more 3D view of the world. And Channel 4 news is deffo better than the Beeb. The recent Cathy Newman v Milo Yiannopoulos dust up was great.

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Originally Posted by Vimana.

I like the idea of there being a relatively honest and believable Mainstream news.
In that respect I like Channel 4 news more than other mainstreams.

Other than that its pick'n'mix and take your chances.

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But Jon Snow's socks? Can't approve of that.

I know some are suspicious of Patrick Henningsen, but I think he's the real deal. I particularly like that he is consciously bi-partizan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI4SNJNHd_4

Obama and Merkel's recent rhetoric is quite transparent and terrifying, the subtext for which is about policing free speech the internet. Add this possibility to the now in place "Snoopers charter" and we can be conclusive about what the agenda is.

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Originally Posted by lardy

But Jon Snow's socks? Can't approve of that.

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I tape a piece of card across the bottom of the telly... :-)

Yeah, it's a low down trick. Damn censorship again .. !

Far better to rely on trusted news sources like uprootedpalstinians.com or some random Twitter feed from a bloke you've never met

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Originally Posted by Gabalphaville

That BBC one is hilarious – not just spotting fake news but how to grass it up. It’s not like the Beeb have ever tried to shape our perception through omission and emphasis is it? Still, at least they don't make stuff up.......

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Don't get me started.. again :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Blue in the Face

I know some are suspicious of Patrick Henningsen, but I think he's the real deal. I particularly like that he is consciously bi-partizan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI4SNJNHd_4

Obama and Merkel's recent rhetoric is quite transparent and terrifying, the subtext for which is about policing free speech the internet. Add this possibility to the now in place "Snoopers charter" and we can be conclusive about what the agenda is.

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The old 'threat to democracy' card, Obama “If we are not serious about facts and what’s true and what’s not, if we can’t discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems,”

Weapons of mass destruction spring to mind..

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Originally Posted by TH63

Far better to rely on trusted news sources like uprootedpalstinians.com or some random Twitter feed from a bloke you've never met

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I have never posted a link from that site, this thread is not about main stream news, it's about the epidemic of fake news sites that has flooded facebook and other social media for the last few months, it's a deliberate flood of completely fabricated stories so they can push for more censorship of the internet.

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Originally Posted by TH63

Far better to rely on trusted news sources like uprootedpalstinians.com or some random Twitter feed from a bloke you've never met

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This is a very profound statement, but it is also a logical fallacy. With a view like this you will open yourself up to even more fake news and propaganda. No one side is better than the other, but taken as a whole you will find the truth somewhere in between.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

I have never posted a link from that site, this thread is not about main stream news, it's about the epidemic of fake news sites that has flooded facebook and other social media for the last few months, it's a deliberate flood of completely fabricated stories so they can push for more censorship of the internet.

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I thought it was a group of kids in Macedonia who discovered a new way to make a few dollars? Was Brexit and Trump also a part of this deliberate attempt? What has materialised is Merkel and Obama have made themselves unelectable, so in hindsight if it was actually them who were behind all the fake news, it wasn't the best of ideas :biggrin:

This is a good read, if only for the comments. It will sum up nicely what is really going on

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ocial-networks

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I thought it was a group of kids in Macedonia who discovered a new way to make a few dollars? Was Brexit and Trump also a part of this deliberate attempt? What has materialised is Merkel and Obama have made themselves unelectable, so in hindsight if it was actually them who were behind all the fake news, it wasn't the best of ideas :biggrin:

This is a good read, if only for the comments. It will sum up nicely what is really going on

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ocial-networks

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Yeah it was a group of kids in Macedonia and from the Russians apparently, I'm not saying that it was or it wasn't, I'm just repeating what they are telling people and saying how I see it, they are suggesting that brexit and Trump are the result of all the fake news, I read something earlier about Obama consulting with lawyers, it made me think about what Organ said, can't find where I saw it, will get back to you.

"Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html

We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...in-the-suburbs

Could better Internet security have prevented Trump’s shocking win? <-- :hehe:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-shocking-win/

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

Yeah it was a group of kids in Macedonia and from the Russians apparently, I'm not saying that it was or it wasn't, I'm just repeating what they are telling people and saying how I see it, they are suggesting that brexit and Trump are the result of all the fake news, I read something earlier about Obama consulting with lawyers, it made me think about what Organ said, can't find where I saw it, will get back to you.

"Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html

We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...in-the-suburbs

Could better Internet security have prevented Trump’s shocking win? <-- :hehe:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-shocking-win/

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Read the comments in the Guardian article above to get an idea about what people are really thinking. This fake news stuff is just more propaganda from the same people who have just been anhialated. This kind of response is all that they know.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...in-the-suburbs

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How do you know this isn't fake news? He was very quick to change his tune and start singing like a canary :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Read the comments in the Guardian article above to get an idea about what people are really thinking. This fake news stuff is just more propaganda from the same people who have just been anhialated. This kind of response is all that they know.

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I never let comments, likes, upvotes or any other crap on things influence my view you should know that by now.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

How do you know this isn't fake news? He was very quick to change his tune and start singing like a canary :biggrin:

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Exactly, what a great song he sings too :hehe:

btw, you may not agree with me on this one but remember I'm not TruBlue. :biggrin: