Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
US trade deal possible by November
As party preparations get underway for the UK's departure from the EU tomorrow evening, talk in Westminster has turned to stage two of the Brexit negotiations. Although ministers and Tory MPs are keen to tell anyone who will listen that as of 11pm tomorrow the Conservatives will have achieved their election promise to 'get Brexit done', there is much to do when it comes to carving out the UK's new place in the world.
*
Crucial to this is the trade relationships the UK will forge with its allies. Johnson is keen to conclude fast-track trade deals with the EU and the US – and negotiating objectives are expected to be published in the coming weeks. However, when it comes to the pace of the discussions, it became clear today that the two sets of talks will be striking in their differences. To the frustration of the UK side, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen previously warned it would be 'impossible' to reach a comprehensive trade deal by the end of 2020 as Johnson wishes.
*
This lunchtime US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo made clear that he was closely aligned with the UK when it came to time-keeping. Speaking alongside Dominic Raab at a Policy Exchange event, Pompeo was bullish on Brexit. He said he had told Boris Johnson he wanted to be here for Brexit day, but the Prime Minister said the 31st would be a bit busy so why didn’t he come the day before? He predicted that it would bring ‘enormous benefits’ to both the UK and the US. He said the UK had been sent to the front of the line for a trade deal and backed the idea that it could be done before the presidential election this November — a break-neck timetable. He was also keen to stress that he didn’t see a UK deal with the EU as precluding one with the US or vice-versa.
*
On Coffee House, James*says*Raab and Pompeo were keen to stress more broadly how the UK and the US overall aims were the same, even if they disagreed on tactics as they do over Iran. But what was most striking about this event was how terrorism, which would have dominated the discussion even a few years ago, has fallen down the agenda to be replaced by the more traditional challenge posed by rival states. The US now regards China as the most significant strategic threat and wants its allies to come to the same conclusion
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Carefull you dont set off our Cyril again, his blood pressure has been through the roof this week!
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Carefull you dont set off our Cyril again, his blood pressure has been through the roof this week!
Yes they'd hate for this to be a success for the country ,its failure or nothing for them.
And his sidekick and arrd keyboard warrior Heisenberg , they can't get enough of me .
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Britain 'will not be aligning with EU rules', and no jurisdiction of the European courts.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51345776
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Quote:
Originally Posted by
life on mars
US trade deal possible by November
As party preparations get underway for the UK's departure from the EU tomorrow evening, talk in Westminster has turned to stage two of the Brexit negotiations. Although ministers and Tory MPs are keen to tell anyone who will listen that as of 11pm tomorrow the Conservatives will have achieved their election promise to 'get Brexit done', there is much to do when it comes to carving out the UK's new place in the world.
*
Crucial to this is the trade relationships the UK will forge with its allies. Johnson is keen to conclude fast-track trade deals with the EU and the US – and negotiating objectives are expected to be published in the coming weeks. However, when it comes to the pace of the discussions, it became clear today that the two sets of talks will be striking in their differences. To the frustration of the UK side, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen previously warned it would be 'impossible' to reach a comprehensive trade deal by the end of 2020 as Johnson wishes.
*
This lunchtime US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo made clear that he was closely aligned with the UK when it came to time-keeping. Speaking alongside Dominic Raab at a Policy Exchange event, Pompeo was bullish on Brexit. He said he had told Boris Johnson he wanted to be here for Brexit day, but the Prime Minister said the 31st would be a bit busy so why didn’t he come the day before? He predicted that it would bring ‘enormous benefits’ to both the UK and the US. He said the UK had been sent to the front of the line for a trade deal and backed the idea that it could be done before the presidential election this November — a break-neck timetable. He was also keen to stress that he didn’t see a UK deal with the EU as precluding one with the US or vice-versa.
*
On Coffee House, James*says*Raab and Pompeo were keen to stress more broadly how the UK and the US overall aims were the same, even if they disagreed on tactics as they do over Iran. But what was most striking about this event was how terrorism, which would have dominated the discussion even a few years ago, has fallen down the agenda to be replaced by the more traditional challenge posed by rival states. The US now regards China as the most significant strategic threat and wants its allies to come to the same conclusion
So, is this your opinion or a cut and paste job? If some people are to believed, a cut and paste job is probably our best chance of getting a credible Trade Deal by November - just having a trade deal by the end of the year is not the whole point, to use your word, it would be nice to have something which was effective, all encompassing and watertight as well.
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
So, is this your opinion or a cut and paste job? If some people are to believed, a cut and paste job is probably our best chance of getting a credible Trade Deal by November - just having a trade deal by the end of the year is not the whole point, to use your word, it would be nice to have something which was effective, all encompassing and watertight as well.
Yes Europe is very aware of that , that's why they took 7 to 8 years to agree one with Canada , until the Canadians walked out of the negotiations and strangely within 4 days of the walk out Europe agree the deal .
I m sure it would suit a number of parties/people if this happened to us ,however we cannot face another 7 to 8 years of uncertainty, which will equally effects business planning and peoples life's , I would do a Canada plus and go .
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Quote:
Originally Posted by
life on mars
Yes Europe is very aware of that , that's why they took 7 to 8 years to agree one with Canada , until the Canadians walked out of the negotiations and strangely within 4 days of the walk out Europe agree the deal .
I m sure it would suit a number of parties/people if this happened to us ,however we cannot face another 7 to 8 years of uncertainty, which will equally effects business planning and peoples life's , I would do a Canada plus and go .
The US will also be negotiating a trade deal with the EU this year and it's their interests that we make a success of Brexit, so I would expect to see some leverage being applied behind the scenes.
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
The fact that the UK will not be aligning with EU rules or the jurisdiction of the European courts is also an indicator that it could be a transatlantic stand against the globalists, and the EU won't be getting everything their own way.
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
The US will also be negotiating a trade deal with the EU this year and it's their interests that we make a success of Brexit, so I would expect to see some leverage being applied behind the scenes.
That's my thoughts i read an article that suggests the EUI is the next trade battle with the Canada, Mexico, and China deals are now out of the way teh next battle is with the EUI as its seeks to re-balance its economy ,the USA doesn't like these big trading blocks , as it challenges their control and home grown economy and jobs , yes it could help us to get ours out of the way ??
We wait and see ?
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Quote:
Originally Posted by
life on mars
That's my thoughts i read an article that suggests the EUI is the next trade battle with the Canada, Mexico, and China deals are now out of the way teh next battle is with the EUI as its seeks to re-balance its economy ,the USA doesn't like these big trading blocks , as it challenges their control and home grown economy and jobs , yes it could help us to get ours out of the way ??
We wait and see ?
It's all very exciting isn't it, depite all the efforts of the remainers who wanted to hold us back!
Re: Trade Deal By Nov (now wouldn't that be nice )
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's all very exciting isn't it, depite all the efforts of the remainers who wanted to hold us back!
In all honesty I voted to remain In 2016 , and excepted the leave vote , which was confirmed in the last election as big loud leave .
We really need to get on with it and see where it goes , yes its going to be different however other countries less wealthy than us trade outside of the controls of the Europe model , we must do the same , or even better Europe provides us with a decent trade deal .
