FT: Man City 6 - 0 Watford: FA Cup Final thread

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19-05-19, 02:13
NYCBlue

Re: Man City v Watford: FA Cup Final thread

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Originally Posted by splott parker

I’m happier that they’re the first club to do the domestic treble rather than Man U or Liverpool though. It’s not a bad thing that their noses are being put out of joint.

Why? At least when Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool won the double it was a thing. Now you can just about buy anything. Except the Champions' League.
19-05-19, 04:29
the other bob wilson

Re: FT: Man City 6 - 0 Watford: FA Cup Final thread

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Originally Posted by surge

Game was over as soon as Man City made it three nil. Think Watford will regret that for two out of those three goals they didn't force Man City to show the greater level of skill, composure, football intelligence that their much greater budget has contributed to and instead just weren't strong enough or determined enough - if they had 11 Troy Deeney's they wouldn't have conceded those goals.

What a keeper Ederson is? Man City could have been one nil down but he made a great save, Watford were looking to break but he intervened again which started the move for the first goal. De Bruyne may have made it a record breaking equalling score but Ederson started it all when the game was still at 0-0 so for me he was MotM.

They wouldn't have reached the Final either.
19-05-19, 04:39
the other bob wilson

Re: FT: Man City 6 - 0 Watford: FA Cup Final thread

In some ways, I'd rate Watford as the best side we played against this season and, so when I was asked for a prediction an hour or two before kick off, it was Man City to win, but Watford to give them a really tough game - I went for 1-0. Therefore, I can hardly call what happened predictable - for a side to turn on the style against decent opposition is rare in a Cup Final.

Man City are a great football team with a strange aversion to the latter stages of the Champions League - I hope UEFA throw the back at them if they are guilty of reported financial irregularities because they're good enough to have to resort to that sort of thing.
19-05-19, 04:45
William Treseder

Re: FT: Man City 6 - 0 Watford: FA Cup Final thread

Can’t understand what all the fuss is about.
The best team in England hit top form, against one of the lesser lights from the same division, whose players didn’t really turn up for the big occasion.
All this “buying success” is just nonsense.
That’s been happening in football for yrs, and it ain’t gonna stop anytime soon.
If some folk are not happy with that, then just give up following the game.
19-05-19, 10:17
The Lone Gunman

Re: Man City v Watford: FA Cup Final thread

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Why? At least when Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool won the double it was a thing. Now you can just about buy anything.

You're talking nonsense.

The league and cup double happened more frequently in the Nineties (four times) than in any other decade.

It's only happened twice in the last ten years and three times in the last twenty years.

If it was a simple as the richest club wins the double, it would have happened a lot more frequently over the years than it has.

Meanwhile, the domestic treble has never been done before.
19-05-19, 10:28
City123

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Biggest winning margin in an FA Cup final since 1902/03. Painfully predictable, though.

:hehe:

So Man City battering Watford was a massive shock and completely unpredictable
19-05-19, 10:32
The Lone Gunman

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by City123

So Man City battering Watford was a massive shock and completely unpredictable

Well the odds on it happening were around the 50/1 mark, so I guess there must be plenty of you wise guys with full wallets today.

:thumbup:
19-05-19, 10:40
Heisenberg

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Well the odds on it happening were around the 50/1 mark, so I guess there must be plenty of you wise guys with full wallets today.

:thumbup:

5-0 was 20/1. 50/1 for 6-0 seems highly unlikely.
19-05-19, 10:54
City123

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Well the odds on it happening were around the 50/1 mark, so I guess there must be plenty of you wise guys with full wallets today.

:thumbup:

Silly me, it truly was a shock that Manchester City, who've beaten Watford in each of their past 10 fixtures against one another by an aggregate score of 32-6, managed to overcome them in convincing fashion, a truly magical FA Cup shock
19-05-19, 10:58
Do me a Faerber

Re: Man City v Watford: FA Cup Final thread

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

You're talking nonsense.

The league and cup double happened more frequently in the Nineties (four times) than in any other decade.

It's only happened twice in the last ten years and three times in the last twenty years.

If it was a simple as the richest club wins the double, it would have happened a lot more frequently over the years than it has.

Meanwhile, the domestic treble has never been done before.

The only reason the domestic treble has never been done is because, for the last quarter of a century, the top teams wanted to win just 2 things. CL and PL. Man City are the first who could field a reserve team that would finish top 4.
19-05-19, 10:59
Do me a Faerber

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

5-0 was 20/1. 50/1 for 6-0 seems highly unlikely.

Could get forties and fifties for 6-0. 75 just before the first goal.
19-05-19, 11:08
Heisenberg

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by Do me a Faerber

Could get forties and fifties for 6-0. 75 just before the first goal.

20/1 were the best odds for 5-0 on Oddschecker (put a fiver on and cashed out at 5-0) - seems bizarre that the odds would double for a further goal.
19-05-19, 11:15
The Lone Gunman

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

5-0 was 20/1. 50/1 for 6-0 seems highly unlikely.

I don't know what the exact odds were and it would depend on what bookmaker you used, but I'm sure you could have got something like 40/1 or 50/1 on 6-0 for a 1/5 shot if you shopped around. For instance, AC Milan are 1/5 at home to Frosinone today. 6-0 is 45/1 with BetVictor.
19-05-19, 11:17
Do me a Faerber

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

20/1 were the best odds for 5-0 on Oddschecker (put a fiver on and cashed out at 5-0) - seems bizarre that the odds would double for a further goal.

Really? Parma are 100/1 to beat Fiorentina 4-0 today. 200/1 for 5-0 so it is bizarre that the odds have doubled for a single goal there.

AC Milan are 17/1 to win 5-0 today. 35/1 to win 6-0. Again, the odds doubling for a single goal.
19-05-19, 11:21
Baloo

Re: Man City v Watford

Wrong thread. :facepalm:
19-05-19, 11:22
Heisenberg

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by Do me a Faerber

Really? Parma are 100/1 to beat Fiorentina 4-0 today. 200/1 for 5-0 so it is bizarre that the odds have doubled for a single goal there.

AC Milan are 17/1 to win 5-0 today. 35/1 to win 6-0. Again, the odds doubling for a single goal.

I stand corrected. I didn't think it would be the case in the Man City game though as there's a much bigger disparity between the teams than there is between Parma and Fiorentina.
19-05-19, 11:22
The Lone Gunman

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by City123

Silly me, it truly was a shock that Manchester City, who've beaten Watford in each of their past 10 fixtures against one another by an aggregate score of 32-6, managed to overcome them in convincing fashion, a truly magical FA Cup shock

Come on now, you're being silly.....

Manchester City managing to overcome Watford in convincing fashion wasn't a shock, but neither was a 6-0 scoreline 'painfully predictable'.

Personally, like most people it seems, I expected City to win 2-0 or 3-1 or something like that, although a 1-0 victory similar to their semi-final victory over Brighton or their recent win against Leicester wouldn't have surprised me. 6-0 did surprise me, though.

I'm sorry for you that you didn't enjoy the game. I thought it was excellent entertainment. Man City are a joy to watch when they're in full flow and their work-rate is astonishing.
19-05-19, 11:23
The Lone Gunman

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by Baloo

The build-up was epic, on here included when this board was much busier. Culminating in the nearly 6 weeks before the final when we knew we’d made it. Really a special time that could be savoured over months as we progressed.

I also enjoyed the day - travelling on the train packed-full of City fans, couple of pints in The Globe getting tourists on passing busses to do The Ayatollah, Abide With Me, feeling disappointed but proud of The City after the game. Also had a pint in the Portsmouth fans pub with a couple of Pompey friends and all good fun. Great time to be a City fan.

Wrong thread.....

:thumbup:
19-05-19, 11:24
Do me a Faerber

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

I stand corrected. I didn't think it would be the case in the Man City game though as there's a much bigger disparity between the teams than there is between Parma and Fiorentina.

Best to check facts before spouting off.
19-05-19, 11:28
Heisenberg

Re: FT: Man City 6 - 0 Watford: FA Cup Final thread

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Originally Posted by Do me a Faerber

Best to check facts before spouting off.

Amazing :hehe: I said "seems highly unlikely" and "seems bizarre". Spouting off, indeed.
19-05-19, 11:45
xsnaggle

Re: FT: Man City 6 - 0 Watford: FA Cup Final thread

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

In some ways, I'd rate Watford as the best side we played against this season and, so when I was asked for a prediction an hour or two before kick off, it was Man City to win, but Watford to give them a really tough game - I went for 1-0. Therefore, I can hardly call what happened predictable - for a side to turn on the style against decent opposition is rare in a Cup Final.

Man City are a great football team with a strange aversion to the latter stages of the Champions League - I hope UEFA throw the back at them if they are guilty of reported financial irregularities because they're good enough not to have to resort to that sort of thing.

Politely edited for you. :-)
19-05-19, 12:47
City123

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Come on now, you're being silly.....

Manchester City managing to overcome Watford in convincing fashion wasn't a shock, but neither was a 6-0 scoreline 'painfully predictable'.

Personally, like most people it seems, I expected City to win 2-0 or 3-1 or something like that, although a 1-0 victory similar to their semi-final victory over Brighton or their recent win against Leicester wouldn't have surprised me. 6-0 did surprise me, though.

I'm sorry for you that you didn't enjoy the game. I thought it was excellent entertainment. Man City are a joy to watch when they're in full flow and their work-rate is astonishing.

You do realise that the comment that we're referring to was made at 3-0?
19-05-19, 12:58
Tuerto

Re: Man City v Watford

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Originally Posted by Do me a Faerber

Really? Parma are 100/1 to beat Fiorentina 4-0 today. 200/1 for 5-0 so it is bizarre that the odds have doubled for a single goal there.

AC Milan are 17/1 to win 5-0 today. 35/1 to win 6-0. Again, the odds doubling for a single goal.

Could be to do with how often a 6-0 result happens during these games, it may only be one goal, but the chances of getting to five far outweigh getting to 6 as it rarely happens. I suppose that if a team got to five with 15 minutes left then the odds on them getting to 6 would be evens at best.

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