North south divide of english clubs and their english identity
Its very noticeable this season the divide between them in terms of their engerlish identity.
Clubs like everton and man united did not sing anything about being english. Nothing. Not even as an open goal wind up to us.
However get below birmingham and GSTQ is belted out and the occasional swing low as well.
I much prefer the northern clubs- and my gut says they dont mind us.
Has it always been that way?
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Think you'd better make that a north east / north west thing as well, I don't think the Yorkshire clubs fall into your analysis :hide:
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People in the North are Mancs, Scousers, Geordies, Yorkshiremen etc first, English second. Interestingly (or perhaps not) most people in Yorkshire say they're from Yorkshire, as opposed to a particular city like Mancs, Scousers would etc.
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
Its very noticeable this season the divide between them in terms of their engerlish identity.
Clubs like everton and man united did not sing anything about being english. Nothing. Not even as an open goal wind up to us.
However get below birmingham and GSTQ is belted out and the occasional swing low as well.
I much prefer the northern clubs- and my gut says they dont mind us.
Has it always been that way?
I tend to measure it by what team they support at international level.
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Des Parrot
Think you'd better make that a north east / north west thing as well, I don't think the Yorkshire clubs fall into your analysis :hide:
I had a colleague back in the day from Yorkshire, who always said England is just a patch of land connecting Yorkshire to Wales
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
Its very noticeable this season the divide between them in terms of their engerlish identity.
Clubs like everton and man united did not sing anything about being english. Nothing. Not even as an open goal wind up to us.
However get below birmingham and GSTQ is belted out and the occasional swing low as well.
I much prefer the northern clubs- and my gut says they dont mind us.
Has it always been that way?
Teams like Man United and Liverpool
Have always had a massive Irish fan base from their cities so I guess (maybe wrongly) that that’s why they don’t do the Enger-Land hing.
As one of the of the other posters say I wouldn’t class Leeds in that as they’ve had a history of attracting the more nationalist types.
But on a whole I prefer Northern Clubs too.
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Wouldn't expect any pro England songs from the away end today......
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StraightOuttaCanton
I had a colleague back in the day from Yorkshire, who always said England is just a patch of land connecting Yorkshire to Wales
If he was from Barnsley, Sheffield or South Yorkshire , he would have come from The People’s Republic of South Yorkshire
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Cleve van Leef
If he was from Barnsley, Sheffield or South Yorkshire , he would have come from The People’s Republic of South Yorkshire
Sadly no more.
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Making the anti-English chants all the more embrassing today. That, and the fact we didn't have a single Welsh player in the team.
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NYCBlue
Making the anti-English chants all the more embrassing today. That, and the fact we didn't have a single Welsh player in the team.
Yep as predicted- not a single pro England chant from the away end. They even applauded men of Harlech pre game
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NYCBlue
Making the anti-English chants all the more embrassing today. That, and the fact we didn't have a single Welsh player in the team.
And more than half of the players in our squad are English.
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LeningradCowboy
And more than half of the players in our squad are English.
I wish the club would attempt to communicate with fans and do something about it. It makes me cringe. I don't know what the players think about it. Maybe it doesn't bother them, but they can't be too impressed by it.
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NYCBlue
I wish the club would attempt to communicate with fans and do something about it. It makes me cringe. I don't know what the players think about it. Maybe it doesn't bother them, but they can't be too impressed by it.
I doubt they care, and we get Engerlund Engerlund Engerlund sang at us every week...
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Pedro de la Rosa
I doubt they care, and we get Engerlund Engerlund Engerlund sang at us every week...
No, we don't. That's the point of this thread.