Ampada & Wilson are doing ok all things considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
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Ampada & Wilson are doing ok all things considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
They are just passing us off the park.We are being skooled.
I don’t know. It’s odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
There's no reason for us to still be playing 3 at the back
0-3 is a terrible loss if it ends this way. I've never been too interested in internationals but the score is embarrassing.
They beat Croatia 6-0 last month..Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
Depends on the performance. Spain are capable of turning anyone over when things go right. I'd be more interested in how players perform, especially the youngsters, if there are any playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
It’s been a reality check tonight. I really don’t want to see the likes of Gunter and King in the squad any more.
Playing at this stadium was also a mistake. The CCS suits Wales.
I hadn't realised it was a Testimonial game - who was it for as they didn't mention anyone on the telly?
Even with a goal, I'm not sure what Vokes brings to the team. We've got fast counter-attacking players and he just holds us up. He's also not very good on the ground. I find substitutions like Brooks for Wilson frustrating. Wilson looked like the only threat in the first half, so I'd like to see him and Brooks on the pitch at the same time. Smith also looks good in midfield. Finally Roberts in front of Gunter on the right is a no-no for me.
Bit of a cameo from Williams tonight.
No tackles, or headers won, not even a 'block' from the fake Welshman.
No wonder his country didn't want him.
What on earth was he doing for the second goal - stood in front of two unmarked Spanish players telling others who they should be marking just before the ball goes sailing over his head with no opposition player within yards of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue
Yep agreed with a lot of this. I also think Dummett deserves a chance but to switch to right back. Gunter isn’t good enough in the Championship. He should no longer be starting for Wales. King should be pensioned off . Let’s see the youngsters who played so well against Ireland. Brooks should have started tonight. Him on one flank. Wilson on the other. Bale up top. Tyler Roberts to come off the bench. Vokes is too slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Stupid to play the best team in the world at a stadium we don't play at. Luckily, we finished ok so hopefully not too down I'm probably putting too much attention on the Nations League which is only really a side show.
Spain players are all so technically good and agree we looked stupid trying to play ball out against them.
In Britain we get excited when a player can play a cross field ball like Shelvey or links like Wiltshire when in reality Spain have 20 players who can do that and better. You just have to look at Fabregas Silva Cazorla who are regarded as the best passer pl has ever seen and they have been playing 2nd fiddle to the Spain regulars.
Looked much better with ball carriers rather than trying to pass it around them
Brooks is a real talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazadona10
Both Fabregas (110) and Silva (125) have over 100 caps for Spain and Cazorla has 77, its a bit unfair to say that's second fiddleQuote:
Originally Posted by mazadona10
But when you compare them to Iniesta and Xavi as players.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
It just shows how good Spain has had it for me the best midfielders with Zidane in my life time
A lot of work needed to make that a football ground. The bright side was that the queueing for the toilet wasn't bad at all, the down side was pretty much everyting else. Bar staff were a joke - who was going to throw a plastic bottle from the top tier? So why waste 5 minutes for every customer putting it in a plastic cup? Why not have drinks on tap so you can go straight into cup rather than bottle, unscrew lid, plastic cup. Hideous to the point where I suspected the WRU wanted us to hate the millennium so we don't reappear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser
If that was anyone's first game would they really want to go back? The whole football atmoshere was lost to tourists who themselves didn't get a good experience.
Playing side, Brooks and Ampadu looked good. Is Ampadu injured? I would have spent a grand to avoid the game if he's picked up a knock.
Main concern is how a guy named Rhodri can end up being MoM for Spain. Surely there's some Welsh blood there!
Rhodrigo... sign him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madassa
Ampadu was coming off after 60 mins anyway, so I think he just came off. We'll have to wait for Zenith's news report! But yeah, Ampadu and Brooks didn't look out of place against the Spanish, both have big futures ahead of them. Wilson looked tidy too. It's also time to replace some of the old guard, they are blocking development.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Wales were shite, atmosphere was shite.
Giggs is shite.
No point dressing up an awful evening.
1 Sooner we get back to CCS the better
2 Without Bale Wales are nothing
3 Williams King Gunter should never wear the red again. Vokes is a Carthorpe. Feck knows how he ever scores.
4 Giggs was the worst possible choice as manager. We should have someone with international managerial experience not a former playboy.
The Welsh team of the near future is going to be far more technically proficient than the current one, so not all is lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy corbyn
How can you call them plastics when they are there and you aren’t?😂Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
I've just spotted the elephant in the room :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Hennessy Roberts Chester Mepham Davies Brooks Allen Ramsey Ampadu Bale Roberts(T) with Wilson and Lawrence for Ampadu and Bale if not fit.My team for Ireland
I don't think there is much point making judgement about players deficiencies last night, it was a foreign experience really.
It can become a football stadium but, like West Ham's recent move, if you don't involve the fans enough in the transition it becomes feckin horrible. The upper tiers feel really cut off and the red wall is dwarfed by fans playing on their phones. A whole end needs to be dedicated to the red wall rather than just a lower tier and creeping up the side (that end with effectively two tiers is made for this); air-horns need to be banned (aren't they prohibited items on the principality list? They are creeping back into the CCS too mind); there needs to be much quicker and better checks going into the ground; and much better and quicker service at bar in the grounds.... If our FA want us there in the future then they need to understand that playing in front of a football crowd has made games recently so good and do everything to make it less of an egg experience.
I'm not in the "never again" brigade but two more games like that and I will be.
Flights from Anglessey down were cancelled for last night. There needs to be work done to ensure fans from all over Wales can make it down. This one goes to our government and our local council who are determined to make transport in and out of town so painful.
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Originally Posted by William Treseder
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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
My wife and I, followed Wales all over Europe & Asia (Azerbaijann twice), when Wales were shite.
We did it, because it was a cracking atmosphere and a chance to visit countries you would not normally visit. We did this for about 15 years, until a certain group, who could no longer get away with their hooligan antics at league games, started travelling to Wales games, sometimes spoiling the away trips with their 1970/80's ways.
The wife no longer enjoyed the trips, so Old Tony here has a saying "if you don't wanna be somewhere or do something, don't do it", so we eliminated that part of football, from our lives.
Add now, the fact that we are pensioners and I am no longer working, so even if we were to want to follow Wales wholeheartedly, we would not be able to afford it, so another Old Tony saying comes into operation, which is "Eliminate the problem, the problem being Wales"
Did I miss EURO 2016, Na, am I a plastic, Na, for the simple reason, I don't go at all. Have I commented on the game, Na, All I did, was made a reference, to those who don't normally go, getting fed up and leaving early. By the look of comments on here and elsewhere, it looks and sounds like, the extra fans took over the SHOW and spoilt the GREAT atmosphere that has been created at the CCS and reduced it to a whimper.
Na, not for me these days, didn't even watch it on the tele, apart from when the adverts were on, so just flicked over to see the score.
Just seen the team and subs and it looks like Giggs is going down the same road as TOSH, lets hope the "fans", don't crucify Giggs, like they did TOSH, for giving youth a chance.
Me, PLASTIC, Na. :wales: