Manafort Verdict

I'll make a new thread, since this case is not connected to Trump, or Russian collusion.

Latest news, the jury are still considering their verdict for the third day.

America has a good record on jailing anyone rich or poor on fraud, this must be a complex case.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

America has a good record on jailing anyone rich or poor on fraud, this must be a complex case.

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It's an old case going back to 2005, not paying enough tax or something. Absolutely nothing to do with Trump or Russia though, so I'm not sure how it ended up as part of the Mueller investigation?

Rain stops play. The match will resume tomorrow morning on day 4.

Unlike us , and the cover up , they do believe in going for em ,however big they are :

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-10-...yd-they-do-it/

Looks like American justice has worked finally :

Former Trump campaign chairman Manafort guilty of 8 counts - guilty of 5 tax fraud charges, 1 charge of hiding foreign bank accounts, and 2 counts of bank fraud.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Looks like American justice has worked finally :

Former Trump campaign chairman Manafort guilty of 8 counts - guilty of 5 tax fraud charges, 1 charge of hiding foreign bank accounts, and 2 counts of bank fraud.

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Everybody knows you have to pay your taxes.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Everybody knows you have to pay your taxes.

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Yes but it does seem over there they do go down even celebrities,business folk ,politicians, unlike here where cases collapse or injunctions are allowed , or a cover is allowed ,their justices systems can be ruthless

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Yes but it does seem over there they do go down even celebrities,business folk ,politicians, unlike here where cases collapse or injunctions are allowed , or a cover is allowed ,their justices systems can be ruthless

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Really? I wouldn't say the hit rate is particularly different. We've had Jonathan Aitken, Jeffrey Archer and Chris Huhne as politicians who've gone down off the top of my head. If anything, I'd say that power in America gets you a lot more benefits than power in the UK so I'd be interested in you elaborating with examples.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Really? I wouldn't say the hit rate is particularly different. We've had Jonathan Aitken, Jeffrey Archer and Chris Huhne as politicians who've gone down off the top of my head. If anything, I'd say that power in America gets you a lot more benefits than power in the UK so I'd be interested in you elaborating with examples.

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See my post and link in previous post above .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Yes but it does seem over there they do go down even celebrities,business folk ,politicians, unlike here where cases collapse or injunctions are allowed , or a cover is allowed ,their justices systems can be ruthless

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It's all leverage at the end of the day, to be used against those who don't play ball :wink:

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Originally Posted by life on mars

See my post and link in previous post above .

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There was no comparison with the UK in that link. Business people get done for fraud etc here too. Just as in America, I'm quite sure more get away with it.

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Originally Posted by lardy

There was no comparison with the UK in that link. Business people get done for fraud etc here too. Just as in America, I'm quite sure more get away with it.

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The American ones were all CEO's

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Originally Posted by lardy

There was no comparison with the UK in that link. Business people get done for fraud etc here too. Just as in America, I'm quite sure more get away with it.

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https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/ente...t-time-prison/