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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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lardy
Yes of course, you're right. It was in the long distant past. We won't get any global pandemics again, will we?!
We are better placed to cope though aren’t we, how did one doctor in say China contact one in the uk in 1918? Pigeon post? I rest my case
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
goats
We are better placed to cope though aren’t we, how did one doctor in say China contact one in the uk in 1918? Pigeon post? I rest my case
What case? :hehe:
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
goats
We are better placed to cope though aren’t we, how did one doctor in say China contact one in the uk in 1918? Pigeon post? I rest my case
Yes we are better placed to cope compared to 1918.
Are we better placed to cope in November 2020 than March 2020? Well, we'll probably see.
It's happened this year already, so saying we are much more advanced than 1918 maybe a strong case in your eyes but it's not for me. I just don't know what has supposed to have changed to mean there will be no second wave, as a couple of posters on this thread seem to convinced will be the case.
But then, one of them thinks that covid doesn't kill and the other thinks children are immune :hehe:
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
By the way, just in case anyone read xsnaggle's assertion that "the rate was just below 1 when they lifted their lockdown" - the rate was actually 0.65.
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Last Wednesday, as Merkel and state premiers announced the easing of social distancing coupled with wearing masks, the rate was 0.65. When making the announcement, she said that if any communities saw a rise of 50 or more cases per 100,000 people, towns or cities would have to reimpose lockdowns. The possibility of a second national lockdown is off the table as of now, she said.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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CCFCC3PO
What case? :hehe:
My shiny leather case I take to work everyday of course
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
Bit more info on Korea this morning
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South Korea has reported 40 new cases for its biggest daily jump in nearly 50 days. All but four of the new cases came from the densely populated Seoul metropolitan area, where officials have been scrambling to stem transmissions linked to nightclubs, karaoke rooms and an e-commerce warehouse.
Shows why a second peak has to be carefully managed. And why local lockdowns might be likely.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
Look forward to the day when 40 new cases in the UK is described as a "spike".
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
CCFCC3PO
Look forward to the day when 40 new cases in the UK is described as a "spike".
Issue is that things can escalate from these cases, as has happened during the initial cases. A strict and proactive response could help but issue is individual rights and what if people are asymptotic. I guess contact tracing would help resolve it but the government has to execute it in a way that is efficient and doesn’t cause huge privacy concerns
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
adz-a32
Issue is that things can escalate from these cases, as has happened during the initial cases. A strict and proactive response could help but issue is individual rights and what if people are asymptotic. I guess contact tracing would help resolve it but the government has to execute it in a way that is efficient and doesn’t cause huge privacy concerns
It feels like it's a bit late for contact tracing now.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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lardy
It feels like it's a bit late for contact tracing now.
Because many people had it?
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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lardy
It feels like it's a bit late for contact tracing now.
It isn't being brought in at an ideal time is it?
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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CCFCC3PO
It isn't being brought in at an ideal time is it?
You’d have thought contact track and tracing would’ve been better under more restrictive lockdown restrictions and when the majority were playing ball?
Imagine trying to contact, track and trace everyone who visited a beach on Monday if one person may have had Covid19?
It’s another **** up in a long list.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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CCFCC3PO
It isn't being brought in at an ideal time is it?
It seems most effective if done early. If it gets going, it seems like everyone is going to be so overwhelmed with contacts that it won't be much use.
As Jordi says, much more useful under lockdown.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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lardy
It seems most effective if done early. If it gets going, it seems like everyone is going to be so overwhelmed with contacts that it won't be much use.
As Jordi says, much more useful under lockdown.
To be a contradictory twat, it does need to be done although the implementation and management of the whole thing if restrictions are lifted will probably prove problematic?
I’m sure Boris isn’t publicising the fact contact, track and trace will be up and running and pubs could be open in July to mask or detract from anything else going on in the news?
I’ll add for fairness, Drakeford needs together finger out of his arse in regards to this.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Jordi Culé
To be a contradictory twat, it does need to be done although the implementation and management of the whole thing if restrictions are lifted will probably prove problematic?
I’m sure Boris isn’t publicising the fact contact, track and trace will be up and running and pubs could be open in July to mask or detract from anything else going on in the news?
I’ll add for fairness, Drakeford needs together finger out of his arse in regards to this.
Testing and tracing seem to be the only solution until we get effective drugs and/or a vaccine, so from that point of view it is better late than never.
But it's nearly June, it's been talked about for ages and neither are anywhere near where they should be. So better late than never, but also too little too late.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Testing and tracing seem to be the only solution until we get effective drugs and/or a vaccine, so from that point of view it is better late than never.
But it's nearly June, it's been talked about for ages and neither are anywhere near where they should be. So better late than never, but also too little too late.
It was reported back in April how effective contact, track and tracing was. It must’ve bypassed our experts or the suggestion was binned in favour of herd immunity which is much cheaper money wise?
The fact none of the respective governments got a grasp on this shows how poor collectively they all are.
I’ll blame Drakeford and Sturgeon for being half arsed and more intent with trying to illustrate Wales and Scotland respectively have their own governments.
I’ll blame The bumbling cuntwaffle for trying to act as Lord and master, being a self serving wanker and generally being a massive ****.
If he’d died of Covid19, it would’ve saved many lives. A sacrifice worth giving and I would’ve contributed to a statue for the floppy haired, ****athon.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
Track and trace seems to have a wee problem .
I was reading the government web site yesterday thinking I should down load the App . About 3/4 of the way down the instructions it said the track and trace which I believe should be starting today , the App wasn't ready . It was called the NHS App , is that a sly way of distancing yourself from the App and blaming the NHS ?
Any way it isn't going to work particularly well without the App.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
It was reported back in April how effective contact, track and tracing was. It must’ve bypassed our experts or the suggestion was binned in favour of herd immunity which is much cheaper money wise?
The fact none of the respective governments got a grasp on this shows how poor collectively they all are.
I’ll blame Drakeford and Sturgeon for being half arsed and more intent with trying to illustrate Wales and Scotland respectively have their own governments.
I’ll blame The bumbling cuntwaffle for trying to act as Lord and master, being a self serving wanker and generally being a massive ****.
If he’d died of Covid19, it would’ve saved many lives. A sacrifice worth giving and I would’ve contributed to a statue for the floppy haired, ****athon.
Wishing someone dead because you don't like their politics. You must have a lot of hate and anger bottled up in there..
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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A Quiet Monkfish
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Wishing someone dead because you don't like their politics. You must have a lot of hate and anger bottled up in there..
He's not saying that at all though is he?
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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A Quiet Monkfish
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Wishing someone dead because you don't like their politics. You must have a lot of hate and anger bottled up in there..
I read my comment again and I don’t see where I wished death on him?
My observation still stands though if he had died we wouldn’t be in the shit show we still are.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
You’d have thought contact track and tracing would’ve been better under more restrictive lockdown restrictions and when the majority were playing ball?
Imagine trying to contact, track and trace everyone who visited a beach on Monday if one person may have had Covid19?
It’s another **** up in a long list.
I understand that being within 1 metre of someone for more than 10 minutes is what is called a ' contact'. So the list may be manageable
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
I understand that being within 1 metre of someone for more than 10 minutes is what is called a ' contact'. So the list may be manageable
How do they know if someone has been within 1 metre of someone for more than 10 minutes though?
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Track and trace seems to have a wee problem .
I was reading the government web site yesterday thinking I should down load the App . About 3/4 of the way down the instructions it said the track and trace which I believe should be starting today , the App wasn't ready . It was called the NHS App , is that a sly way of distancing yourself from the App and blaming the NHS ?
Any way it isn't going to work particularly well without the App.
It's almost as if they're rushing out the start of it before it's effective to try and get something else as the main story on the news :sherlock:
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-100000-deaths
South Korea increase restrictions after spike in cases. Exactly the same will happen here if we aren't careful.
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Re: WHO warns of 'second peak' in areas where COVID-19 declining
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
How do they know if someone has been within 1 metre of someone for more than 10 minutes though?
Through the bluetooth contact between phones/devices I think.