Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
figures for Auchwitz is around a million, 925,000 at treblinka which was a death camp only as was belzac and sobibor which account for another 700,000, over a million shot by eiinzangruppen in the east including over 33,000 in three days at babi yar, approx 800,000 starved to death in ghettos, all adding up, we will never know the exact figure it may be 6 million it may be less, does it excuse the horror or the systematic genocide of jews plus gypsies, jehovas witnesses, people with mental handicaps, gays etc no it does not.
People such as organ morgan claim the figures are vastly inflated to discredit the entire event.
Speaking jokingly about the holohoax and in the next sentence saying over 200 thousand innocent women children and families died.
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Deleting post
Good thing I saw what you wrote!
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
Some folks will never get past the moral sheep herding to dig to deeper truths. It's really difficult to challenge one's own belief system that's been conditioned into you for your whole life. 2016 has been a re-revelation for me in that respect as I hadn't realised how fast asleep I was.
The "holocost denial" phenomenon does not benefit those that would subscribe to such a view. So surely the logic would be to look to those who would benefit? The obsession with looking at national states for answers is also a mistake I feel. They are merely conduits for power grabs from more powerful forces. I might further suggest that laying blame on any religious group might also be a misstep.
If anyone on this thread is interested in a deeper dig I would thoroughly recommend Carol Quigely's Tradgedy and Hope which is a manuscript with research mined from CFR sources etc. I've only just discovered this but it's blown my tiny mind. It's a tough read as Quigely was a military man and not a writer, but I haven't yet come across a more enlightening mine into modern global history as this. Quigley was also acknowledged by Bill Clinton to be his chief mentor (but don't let that put you off!) A very important and telling note on this text is that Quigley confided with friends that he dare not overly cite certain banking families in this book as he was convinced he would be killed and his work suppressed.
Here it is for free. You can probably download to a smartphone and read like a kindle...
http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/Tragedy_and_Hope.pdf
For some reason it went out of print for years until 2014 :sherlock:
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Originally Posted by
Blue in the Face
Some folks will never get past the moral sheep herding to dig to deeper truths. It's really difficult to challenge one's own belief system that's been conditioned into you for your whole life. 2016 has been a re-revelation for me in that respect as I hadn't realised how fast asleep I was.
The "holocost denial" phenomenon does not benefit those that would subscribe to such a view. So surely the logic would be to look to those who would benefit? The obsession with looking at national states for answers is also a mistake I feel. They are merely conduits for power grabs from more powerful forces. I might further suggest that laying blame on any religious group might also be a misstep.
If anyone on this thread is interested in a deeper dig I would thoroughly recommend Carol Quigely's Tradgedy and Hope which is a manuscript with research mined from CFR sources etc. I've only just discovered this but it's blown my tiny mind. It's a tough read as Quigely was a military man and not a writer, but I haven't yet come across a more enlightening mine into modern global history as this. Quigley was also acknowledged by Bill Clinton to be his chief mentor (but don't let that put you off!) A very important and telling note on this text is that Quigley confided with friends that he dare not overly cite certain banking families in this book as he was convinced he would be killed and his work suppressed.
Here it is for free. You can probably download to a smartphone and read like a kindle...
http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/Tragedy_and_Hope.pdf
For some reason it went out of print for years until 2014 :sherlock:
Sounds interesting. :thumbup: G. Edward Griffin did a great lecture called 'The Quigley Formula' , good watch if you haven't seen it.
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Sounds interesting. :thumbup: G. Edward Griffin did a great lecture called 'The Quigley Formula' , good watch if you haven't seen it.
I've seen this guy talk about other stuff. Hadn't realised he'd covered Quigley. Definitely going to check this out. :thumbup:
Re: Can someone tell Ken Livingston and Naz Shah about this
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Llanedeyrnblue
People seem to be confused here, nobody is saying that you can't say nasty things about Israel or its policies
Good people dont say nasty things about anyone and try to live as one .
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Originally Posted by
TISS
thank God Organ morgan wasn't around back then, then we'd have 200,001 victims
Perhaps we should arrange another one so he doesn't get missed this time. :hide:
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Originally Posted by
Blue in the Face
I've seen this guy talk about other stuff. Hadn't realised he'd covered Quigley. Definitely going to check this out. :thumbup:
I do like Griffin, he's a good speaker, no gimmicks, no face masks, no end of the world music in the background, just how I like em. :-)
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Originally Posted by
ninianclark
Holy **** she really is a useful idiot!
A lot of folks link Mao to being a Bonesman, but I'm not sure if it's true
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Originally Posted by
Blue in the Face
Holy **** she really is a useful idiot!
A lot of folks link Mao to being a Bonesman, but I'm not sure if it's true
:hehe: It's scary how many people are willing to lie to themselves.
Re: Antisemitism - UK adopts 'new' definition
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Mrs Steve R
:hehe: It's scary how many people are willing to lie to themselves.
:hehe: I would define it as intellectual and moral narcissism