Is Cardiff City an attraction?

Potential new recruits will have seen highlights of all our games and other teams around us in the EPL.

They may have been impressed with one or two individual displays in a few matches and the great support the team gets.

They may have concerns about:

• Lack of composure on the ball in all areas of the pitch leading to loss of possession, avoidable goals being conceded and a poor conversion rate.
  
  
• Relative skill level of current squad compared with the likes of 'smaller' teams such as Burnley, Bournemouth, Watford.
  
  
• The 'Warnock' factor ... although we 'love' him for what he's done for us, will potential signings be impressed with his tactics, style of play etc?
  
  
• The fact that large sums of money has already been spent on players whose involvement has been limited (Reid, Murphy, Tomlin, Madine)
  
  
• The perception that Cardiff City may not the best place to be if you want to further your career.

Solution:

New management team?

After Palace and Leicester away our stock was higher. Time to start lining up potential recruits with a true belief we might have a chance of staying up.

The last 3 shit shows against Spurs, Gillingham and Huddersfield would have shown our managers limitations and just reinforced stereotypes.

Would you sign for us now with a relegation clause?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

After Palace and Leicester away our stock was higher. Time to start lining up potential recruits with a true belief we might have a chance of staying up.

The last 3 shit shows against Spurs, Gillingham and Huddersfield would have shown our managers limitations and just reinforced stereotypes.

Would you sign for us now with a relegation clause?

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There are potential recruits, but are they an improvement, and is it too late?

• Slavisa Jokanovic
• Aitor Karanka
• Mark Hughes
• Craig Bellamy

I think any potential new recruits will be more interested in the money on offer.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I think any potential new recruits will be more interested in the money on offer.

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The established EPL teams will pay more to recruit.

after this year Warnock will go and think that is a major reason why people won’t come.

Obviously we have a specific style at this time but that could all change in 6 months

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

after this year Warnock will go and think that is a major reason why people won’t come.

Obviously we have a specific style at this time but that could all change in 6 months

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It all needs to change now if Cardiff are to push on.

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Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird

Potential new recruits will have seen highlights of all our games and other teams around us in the EPL.

They may have been impressed with one or two individual displays in a few matches and the great support the team gets.

They may have concerns about:

• Lack of composure on the ball in all areas of the pitch leading to loss of possession, avoidable goals being conceded and a poor conversion rate.
  
  Depends which game you watch. West Ham away would show that we still have a lot of work to do but Wolves at home shows we have players who are underrated by media and some of our own fans.
  
  
• Relative skill level of current squad compared with the likes of 'smaller' teams such as Burnley, Bournemouth, Watford.
  
  We're not competing with Bournemouth or Watford in terms of transfer fee or wages. Are Burnley really that far ahead of us? Look at the improvement our side has made since day one.
  
• The 'Warnock' factor ... although we 'love' him for what he's done for us, will potential signings be impressed with his tactics, style of play etc?
  
  Depends which game you watch. West Ham away would show that we still have a lot of work to do but Wolves at home shows we have coaches who are underrated by media and some of our own fans.
  
• The fact that large sums of money has already been spent on players whose involvement has been limited (Reid, Murphy, Tomlin, Madine)
  
  Reid and Murphy are likely to make more and more of an impact whereas Madine and Tomlin are unlikely to return. What's that I see? a 75 million pound Man United striker on the bench whereas player who cost nothing starts in his place?
  
• The perception that Cardiff City may not the best place to be if you want to further your career.
  
  Etheridge has made a name here, Bennett and Morrison decided not to leave and were rewarded, Camarassa is now known to clubs in the top half of premier league table....
  

Solution:

New management team?

Now? West Brom tried that halfway through a season and got relegated with, in theory, a squad more capable than ours. Warnock won't be here forever but he's doing good work currently and this type of thread is premature and OTT.

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Originally Posted by surge

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Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird

Potential new recruits will have seen highlights of all our games and other teams around us in the EPL.

They may have been impressed with one or two individual displays in a few matches and the great support the team gets.

They may have concerns about:

• Lack of composure on the ball in all areas of the pitch leading to loss of possession, avoidable goals being conceded and a poor conversion rate.
  
  
• Relative skill level of current squad compared with the likes of 'smaller' teams such as Burnley, Bournemouth, Watford.
  
  
• The 'Warnock' factor ... although we 'love' him for what he's done for us, will potential signings be impressed with his tactics, style of play etc?
  
  
• The fact that large sums of money has already been spent on players whose involvement has been limited (Reid, Murphy, Tomlin, Madine)
  
  
• The perception that Cardiff City may not the best place to be if you want to further your career.

Solution:

New management team?

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Rubbish. You have been moaning about NW for ages. In the meantime, he has got us promotion to the Premier League, out of the bottom three currently, filled the ground and reunited the club.

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Originally Posted by surge

Solution:

New management team?

Now? West Brom tried that halfway through a season and got relegated with, in theory, a squad more capable than ours. Warnock won't be here forever but he's doing good work currently and this type of thread is premature and OTT.

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My original post was reflecting the difficulty Cardiff may have in recruiting players (such as Clyne / Sala / Moses) due to perceptions of Cardiff City and their style from the outside.

Regarding the 'premature nature' of this thread. I believe that the quality of players who are to be attracted to Cardiff in the January window will be at a different level if a new management team is in charge.

Even if Neil Warnock supervises a miracle and keeps us up then the spectre of Huddersfield (2nd season syndrome) is a big concern.

Cardiff has the fan base to compete at the highest level for many years to come, but things need to change.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Rubbish. You have been moaning about NW for ages. In the meantime, he has got us promotion to the Premier League, out of the bottom three currently, filled the ground and reunited the club.

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Actually I can't remember moaning about Warnock before.

If you think that Cardiff can kick on from here (with the current style of play / squad / management) and establish themselves as a mid-prem team, then fine.

Can't see why a non British football player would be queueing up to sign for Mr "to hell with the rest of the world" either

Stick or bust as they say in cards.

If we bring another manager are we really saying better players will come ?

Bloody Brexit🍌

Until Tan decides to put his hand in his pocket then no one is going to come here. Unless we're looking at another Slade or Trolloppe

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Originally Posted by Joe Gillis

Until Tan decides to put his hand in his pocket then no one is going to come here. Unless we're looking at another Slade or Trolloppe

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Do you think if we were offered identical terms with a player he'd choose Cardiff as his destination ?

I've always felt we suffer from being Welsh , geographically , players probably want to be near their home clubs and thier families, and there is a bigger temptation and greater concentration of clubs to choose from in the North West ,London and the Midlands.

It's a pity there's not more quality in the Scottish and Irish player's these days , as we seem to tempt them to sign more successfully.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Do you think if we were offered identical terms with a player he'd choose Cardiff as his destination ?

I've always felt we suffer from being Welsh , geographically , players probably want to be near their home clubs and thier families, and there is a bigger temptation and greater concentration of clubs to choose from in the North West ,London and the Midlands.

It's a pity there's not more quality in the Scottish and Irish player's these days , as we seem to tempt them to sign more successfully.

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That's bollocks. Swansea have signed lots of good UK, continental and global players in recent years - which proves that it's nothing to do with geographic location. I don't know why we, in particular, seem to struggle to get players over the line - but it seems to be a consistent problem.

My only guess is that it's reputation. Swansea were media darlings and were played up as Barca-lite, whereas we are managed by an old school manager that plays "hoof ball" and have a reputation for being dirty (which isn't the case at all).

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

That's bollocks. Swansea have signed lots of good UK, continental and global players in recent years - which proves that it's nothing to do with geographic location. I don't know why we, in particular, seem to struggle to get players over the line - but it seems to be a consistent problem.

My only guess is that it's reputation. Swansea were media darlings and were played up as Barca-lite, whereas we are managed by an old school manager that plays "hoof ball" and have a reputation for being dirty (which isn't the case at all).

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This basically backs up my original post, although some on here think I'm always complaining about Warnock.

If its back to the Championship next year, then a huge opportunity will have been wasted.