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Deadline passed on Hoilett and Gunnars?
Did I read somewhere that NW had given Junior and Aron until yesterday to sign their contracts? Has there been any news on them yet?
If both leave then we'll have a very different feel to us as a team next year I think...
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Re: Deadline passed on Hoilett and Gunnars?
At this point i'm expecting both to move on. They would have been offered improved terms and the chance to play in the premier league, I was hoping both contracts would have been sorted fairly soon.
Usually if someone wants to sign a new deal it's done fairly quickly, often behind the scenes with very little media speculation. They are both entitled to see find the best deal for them and I'm quite sure they have a preference for other options at this moment.
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Re: Deadline passed on Hoilett and Gunnars?
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Trigger
At this point i'm expecting both to move on. They would have been offered improved terms and the chance to play in the premier league, I was hoping both contracts would have been sorted fairly soon.
Usually if someone wants to sign a new deal it's done fairly quickly, often behind the scenes with very little media speculation. They are both entitled to see find the best deal for them and I'm quite sure they have a preference for other options at this moment.
I tend to agree
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I think the so called deadline was just paper talk.
We have to accept these two will have other options and may not want to make final decisions until their contracts expire at the end of June.
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Just going on the interviews with both from the final game through to the open top bus tour and awards night - I still expect Junior to stay but less sure about Gunnar.
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jeremy corbyn
I think the so called deadline was just paper talk.
We have to accept these two will have other options and may not want to make final decisions until their contracts expire at the end of June.
Except I don’t think NW will accept it as he tends to want to do his business early. So I think we’re now in the situation where both parties are looking elsewhere but might still end up with each other.
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I'd be okay with Junior staying and Gunnars opting to leave.
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Re: Deadline passed on Hoilett and Gunnars?
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
Just going on the interviews with both from the final game through to the open top bus tour and awards night - I still expect Junior to stay but less sure about Gunnar.
Honestly don’t think that will be a bad thing.
I think Hoillet has the talent to do well at the top level, but Gunnar I’m not convinced about.
His focus will all be onIcrksnf this summer, so ge’llbevehind When he returns, I also reckon he’ll wait and see what’s on offer to him.
I can’t see him getting any better and he struggled on his return from injury last season.
We aren’t really in a position to give him the contact he’ll be looking for- I’d rather use the money to get better in
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Lawnmower
Honestly don’t think that will be a bad thing.
I think Hoillet has the talent to do well at the top level, but Gunnar I’m not convinced about.
His focus will all be onIcrksnf this summer, so ge'llbevehind When he returns, I also reckon he’ll wait and see what’s on offer to him.
I can’t see him getting any better and he struggled on his return from injury last season.
We aren’t really in a position to give him the contact he’ll be looking for- I’d rather use the money to get better in
Bit to much sangria, I think Tim :hehe:
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BLUETIT
Bit to much sangria, I think Tim :hehe:
I wish Tony.
Unfortunately I type like an alian even when I’m sober.
Don’t understand why autocorrect picks on words I want to say and corrects them to bollox ( which it tried to correct to ‘Hillon’ ) yet misses it when I type in Klingon ?
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Lawnmower
I wish Tony.
Unfortunately I type like an alian even when I’m sober.
Don’t understand why autocorrect picks on words I want to say and corrects them to bollox ( which it tried to correct to ‘Hillon’ ) yet misses it when I type in Klingon ?
You know you could have bigged yourself up by claiming you were typing in Icelandic? Nobody would have known...
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Re: Deadline passed on Hoilett and Gunnars?
Or perhaps they are both still on their holiday??????
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Hoilett is, don't know about Gunners!
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Originally Posted by
Lawnmower
Honestly don’t think that will be a bad thing.
I think Hoillet has the talent to do well at the top level, but Gunnar I’m not convinced about.
His focus will all be onIcrksnf this summer, so ge’llbevehind When he returns, I also reckon he’ll wait and see what’s on offer to him.
I can’t see him getting any better and he struggled on his return from injury last season.
We aren’t really in a position to give him the contact he’ll be looking for- I’d rather use the money to get better in
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His focus will all be onIcrksnf this summer, so ge’llbevehind “
Issit Icelandic?
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I think Gunnars is looking for a new experience. He’s played in the premier league with Cardiff, and if he’s being offered the same money (or more) to play in Spain or Germany or Italy, then I’d expect him to go. And good luck to him :thumbup:
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Perhaps Holilett is looking to Wassa in DC whilst his stock is high .
I don't think Gunnerson is a premiership midfielder, in fact I don't think we have a premiership midfielder full stop. Ralls has potential though .
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I think Warnock is living in the past if he thinks he can bully and manipulate players into signing new contracts by issuing ultimatums, and using the media.
Agents and players hold all the cards these days.
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J R Hartley
I think Warnock is living in the past if he thinks he can bully and manipulate players into signing new contracts by issuing ultimatums, and using the media.
Agents and players hold all the cards these days.
Gunnarsson is going into a WC injured. With no contract.
Perhaps Junior is hoping to be signed up by Man City.
Yeah, they're holding all the cards alright.
Both are replaceable, easily.
Warnock a bully? He's a well established manager. Perhaps he should bend over backwards for average (at best) PL standard players.
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Jamsarnie
I think Gunnars is looking for a new experience. He’s played in the premier league with Cardiff, and if he’s being offered the same money (or more) to play in Spain or Germany or Italy, then I’d expect him to go. And good luck to him :thumbup:
New experience? Is this a metaphor for a large signing on fee?
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Louth
Gunnarsson is going into a WC injured. With no contract.
Perhaps Junior is hoping to be signed up by Man City.
Yeah, they're holding all the cards alright.
Both are replaceable, easily.
Warnock a bully? He's a well established manager. Perhaps he should bend over backwards for average (at best) PL standard players.
Not in the premier league he isn’t.
JH was arguably our best player last season. Certainly our best offensive player. He is not “easily replaceable” at all.
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JH isnt proven in the PL.
I'd go along with NW all day long instead of a modern day player and agent
I've no doubt he'll sign anyway
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Louth
JH isnt proven in the PL.
I'd go along with NW all day long instead of a modern day player and agent
I've no doubt he'll sign anyway
What do you know about football? Let’s be fair. Stick to doing rugby and hurling ffs.
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J R Hartley
I think Warnock is living in the past if he thinks he can bully and manipulate players into signing new contracts by issuing ultimatums, and using the media.
Agents and players hold all the cards these days.
:thumbup:
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the other bob wilson
:thumbup:
Are we really to believe that if Hoilett says in a fortnight's time that he will sign a contract for us, we'll tell him no, we gave you a deadline and you didn't stick to it?
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jon1959
Just going on the interviews with both from the final game through to the open top bus tour and awards night - I still expect Junior to stay but less sure about Gunnar.
I actually asked Junior if he was likely to be staying with us for next season and he said "yes sure." But I guess that could have also meant Yes if the offer is right. Like you Jon, I am confident Junior will stay and also not sure about Gunnars.
Spedger
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the other bob wilson
Are we really to believe that if Hoilett says in a fortnight's time that he will sign a contract for us, we'll tell him no, we gave you a deadline and you didn't stick to it?
I think we would sign him but the point I was making is that NW will now be proceeding as if he’s just another possibility rather than a completed deal. It’s not beyond belief that we might sign 2 other wingers before JH makes his mind up, meaning we might no longer have space for him
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the other bob wilson
Are we really to believe that if Hoilett says in a fortnight's time that he will sign a contract for us, we'll tell him no, we gave you a deadline and you didn't stick to it?
If Warnock wants to get his business done early and either or both of them want to keep haggling for a better deal, Warnock could easily bring someone else in and put them down the pecking order. Now if Hoilett and Gunnarsson are pivotal to Warnock's plans, then they might have some leverage, but as it is, no-one can say for certain that they'd both be great in the PL.
The last thing the club needs is a situation where deals are stalling until the last embers of the transfer window. They're not that irreplaceable and vital to us.
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At some point you have to draw the line.
We've had Gunnarsson dragging a new contract out, despite missing around half the season for us, being noble enough to deign to consider playing for us - if we got promoted. Iceland in world cup, when precisely should we just say "look, you're messing us around".
Deadline set early? No problem about that. We need to know which players we need to replace and get them in in a timely matter. Gunnarsson pisses us around, decides late in transfer window not to sign a new deal? Leaves minimal time to get a midfielder in. And of course, it won't be his fault, no, people will blame the club.
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ccfc_is_my_life
At some point you have to draw the line.
We've had Gunnarsson dragging a new contract out, despite missing around half the season for us, being noble enough to deign to consider playing for us - if we got promoted. Iceland in world cup, when precisely should we just say "look, you're messing us around".
Deadline set early? No problem about that. We need to know which players we need to replace and get them in in a timely matter. Gunnarsson pisses us around, decides late in transfer window not to sign a new deal? Leaves minimal time to get a midfielder in. And of course, it won't be his fault, no, people will blame the club.
Absolutely.
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J R Hartley
What do you know about football? Let’s be fair. Stick to doing rugby and hurling ffs.
We do it all. You lot are a one trick pony.
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the other bob wilson
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Only if clubs let them hold the cards. What’s the average wage bill at Burnley? 12k a week or something? I’m more than happy if we stick to something really low like that and sign players who want to play for us.
If hoilett and Gunnarson don’t then no worries. Hoilett has been great but a signed him as an out of contract player. Gunnarson has been a good servant but he’s not good enough for the premier league so we shouldn’t be paying him wages as if he was.
We move on. As long as we don’t waste this money then I’m happy.