Ah, the old "It's worse at other clubs" or "it's the same everywhere" bat away. Nothing to see here, move on.
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we can also do nothing about it
When Scam was around, I learnt i couldnt change anything about the debts racking up, though we were " family " and Scam would hurt his family
The the Riddler arrived, once again, nothing we could really do about the situation
Now we are talking 100 mill, its gone past the point of no return
as i said, enjoy the ride or dont, buy why worry about it
It's a profit and loss business ,with ridiculous sways of costs such as wages and transfer fees accelerating year on year way beyond any type of inflation target , you have very little chance of ever budgeting accurately or delivering your business model as you would a normal business which has far better fixed assets ,wages and selling commodity opportunity .
In football your in the hands of highly paid footballers , volatile transfer fees, fickle fans , merchandising and TV monies, if your unsuccessful those assets crush you , if your successful you have to overspend, in my books Tan has a far better grip on this then any of us, and lets not forget he entered this business with zero football experience.
Because Tan (the bloke you hated for 5 games) claimed in 2016 he was converting £68m of debt to equity. Tan also claimed a few weeks after the club failed to win promotion in 2012 (something that prompted you to get a refund) that the club would be debt free within 5 years. These two things are being ignored by the lawnmower and that is why I use the "burying head in sand" analogy.
Are you planning on getting a refund this summer if Cardiff don't go up - just like you did in 2012?
Think you need to have a lie down. I only pick up on you because you keep having a go at Posters because you feel self righteous despite doing nothing yourself. I have never had a go at any one for keeping going even back then and never imposed my views on anyone. I also don't feel the need to justify any decision I make in my life to a stranger on the Internet either.
At the beginning of the season you accused me of laughing at people who stopped going which clearly shows that you didn't know anything about what I did back then which is why I said about refund despite it happening 5 1/2 years prior. I'll keep going as long as the social aspect is there. If you had friends I think you would still be going down. Reckon I've been a season ticket holder longer than you as well.
You don't need to justify your refund request to me, although your protest happened at a convenient time post play off heartache and pre start of promotion run. It's odd, though, that you feel I need to justify myself to you. You are also asking another poster here to justify his decision to attend 8 games. The same poster asked for a refund, but didn't run back to the club following a few wins.
The claim that I "did nothing" is amusing considering I have not spent a penny at the club since the rebrand, didn't renew for the PL, got stung because I thought there would be protests in the ground and I wanted to be a part of that. I cannot support the club with Tan at the helm, and will not entertain the thought of attending until he has gone. He hasn't kept up his side of the bargain, despite numerous assurances that debt would be converted to equity, he hasn't made much progress.
You don't have to justify your stance. I get it. However, others don't have to justify theirs to you. The only time I have a go at you is when you have a go at others. I'm like a modern day Robin Hood.
You have been fairly consistent with your stance from Premier League season onwards, but you use this to beat other opinions down.
I enjoy going down this season as much as any time after the Eddie May years. Football isn't pretty at times, crowds aren't great, but we're back in blue and there is a togetherness again among the fan-base which has been missing since your days.
I think, you should give one game a go and see if there's any feelings left.
Every time I read these posts from the sour patch kids (and there have been many cut and paste masterpieces over the years) it always makes me think of the work of Carol Dweck on what she calls ‘Mindsets’. Look her up boys - it may change your lives
I'm on a year-long course in work at the moment, during which I've had to listen to a couple of podcasts featuring Carol Dweck. As I recall, she was droning on about growth mindsets, fixed mindsets, etc. Not only does she have a seriously irritating voice, but the content of those podcasts weren't up to much as far as I was concerned. They certainly weren't life-changing in any way, but each to their own.
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He is (another £10m in the latest accounts) and he is also not charging interest on his remaining debt. That blows your arguments right out of the water. Are you going to come back now - no I didnt think so, because you will just find something else to complain about.