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Another right-wing nutter who doesn't want to make America great again?
And Trump has the audacity to say there's a lot of hate in this country.
They need more guns to protect themselves!
It'll all be Trumps Fault, you can bet your last penny on that :wave:
We'll see won't we?
America appears to be descending into (even more) chaos under this loose cannon of a President who appears to be giving all the looneys and conspiracy theorists every encouragement to indulge their hate filled agendas.
His latest comment about the shootings in the Synagogue were that they should have had security... Is that genuinely how he thinks Americans should live? With security guards everywhere they go? If so then the fall of the States is going to come far quicker than I thought, which is not going to be good for anyone in the liberal Western World who believes in rules and the law to sort out problems, rather than guns, bombs and knives...
The U.S. is way down the list of countries of firearm homicides per capita. Jamaica, Bahamas and Trinidad, to name but three, have a rate three times more. Brazil and El Salvador are six and ten times greater than the U.S. has.
I don’t see how you can’t think it isn’t? He’s empowering this sort of hatred with his rhetoric. Same as he empowered that lunatic who sent those bombs.
Why do we always blame whoever has “radicalised” other terrorists but we can’t see the right wing media and trump are radicalising these lunatics.
I thought your descending into chaos remarks were both inaccurate and hysterical.
Let's be frank, the corporate media has an unspoken hierarchy. Deaths of those in predominantly rich white countries are far more newsworthy and deserving of our sympathy than those which are not.
I don't believe my remarks are either inaccurate or hysterical but you're entitled to disagree. My observations are that a society is held together by us all agreeing to abide by certain codes of conduct and laws on what is/isn't permissible. When you have a president who seems to enjoy goading people and who clearly doesn't believe in the rule of law himself then it seems inevitable that the pillars that hold up society are going to be severely shaken.
Whatever the agenda of the media re reporting of deaths it seems reasonably clear that some more extreme elements of American society are feeling more emboldened than they have in many years. I'm linking that to Trump you may just see it as business as usual.
Seems the shooter believed that Trump has not gone far enough - apparently, he thinks he was "a globalist, not a nationalist".
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/u...mid=tw-nytimes
https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert...ng-jews-on-gab
http://uk.businessinsider.com/robert...ooting-2018-10
Was apparently parroting conspiracy shite that trump and farage have been saying in recent weeks. But obviously he wasn’t empowered or radicalised by trump, definitely not!
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unspeakably vile and callous. Trump says he considered canceling his political rally not because 11 people were murdered in an anti-Semitic act of terrorism, but because he had a bad hair day due to answering questions about the murders of Jews in the rain <a href="https://t.co/diM9mxB58D">pic.twitter.com/diM9mxB58D</a></p>— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1056284115840962560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The President suggests that the synagogue should have had armed guards.
Not sure what a part time guard could have done compared to three Police Officers who got shot.
Is it me or is he a total dickhead?
The "good guy with a gun" response is a regular part of the managed inertia to these events. Trump's core support is almost universally anti-gun control and he is heavily endorsed by the National Rifle Association. Just like the other school, university, place of worship and social event massacres by people usually carrying semi-automatic weapons capable of multiple killing in a short space of time the answer is for more arms in these environments. They will let the gun control noise slowly die with the news cycle until the next multiple killing that will inevitably come.
There was an assault rifle ban in the US from 1994 to 2004 during which there was a significant reduction in the numbers of fatalities from multiple shootings. It had a sunset clause after 10 years and has never been politically reintroduced since then. Trump called the latest multiple murderer a "wacko" (another common excuse is the perpetrator is mentally unstable particularly when they are a white male), which may or may not be true. What is clear is that this wacko was able to easily access and keep weapons capable of multiple murder under the current laws of the land that Trump and the Republican Party are clearly protecting.
Multiple shootings have occurred in the States for decades. The worst period was between 2009 - 2014.
This isn't a Trump thing, just as it wasn't an Obama thing.
The rhetoric of hate began with Clinton and Obama supporters and every other loony leftie, the likes of Johnny Depp saying at the Glastonbury Festival of all places, that he wishes he could assassinate Trump. The hate fuelled Madonna wishing that he would be assassinated the day after he was voted in.
So much more hate filled rhetoric towards Trump than from him.
I can't stand Trump, but he'll be pilloried no matter what he says or does. He can't win because so many people have lost their objectivity.
i have been over to the states a few times since hes been in power and its either people support him strongly or despise him with the same strength. one thing a lot of people have said including women is that they preferred him over hilary and the amount of women who despised clinton shocked me. the women seemed to think she kept overlooking his infidelity for her own interests down the line. its a strange atmosphere over there now and if it were eighty years ago the democrats an republicans would probably be fighting a civil war now.
Can't disagree with much of what you say there, except the bit I've put in bold. Donald trump rightly deserves to be pilloried for the damage he is doing to the perception of democracy. The ramifications are already being felt across the world.
I say the perception of Democracy because we all know it's an illusion at its core, but so long as everyone pretends there are a set of values that those in charge can be held accountable to then it continues to work. Take that illusion away and anarchy results. I'm sure there are a number of people who think that'll be fine but really it isn't...
So let me get this right, when you ask a poster if they are being sarcastic it is wry observation and when someone returns the complement it lacks positivity.
You seem to think that mass murder has been going on in the US for a considerable amount of time, which is true. Yet the rhetoric of hate started with Clinton and Obama and a couple of lovies, which is obviously nonsense considering the US social and racial history.
I don't know on what basis you conclude 2009-14 was the worst period for multiple murders, (number of incidents and number of deaths would give different results) but as I said elsewhere the collective political will to deal with semi-automatic weapons was not there during that period and persists to this day.
Your original statement that an attack on the Jewish community could not be the work of someone from the right was laughable. Setting aside 20th century history for a moment you only need to recall the chants of white supremacists at the march in Charlottesville to see that a rich seam of anti-semitism runs through that mindset.