In America so far this year. That's 309 days. A mass shooting is 4 or more victims. not including the shooter. Another church in Texas been targeted, 30 plus killed.
Such a ****ed up country!
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In America so far this year. That's 309 days. A mass shooting is 4 or more victims. not including the shooter. Another church in Texas been targeted, 30 plus killed.
Such a ****ed up country!
****ing nra wankers
May God be with the people says trump
There is no god you stupid twat
After the previous massacre in Las Vegas, when asked if they need to tighten gun control, Trump, notorious for speaking before indulging his 'brain', said "We're not going to talk about that today". Wonder why? It's almost as if self interest was put to the fore.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41478293
The shootings aren't a gun issue, but a mental health issue according to the great man...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uns/834879001/
Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House, tweeted that the people need our prayers right now.
Given that the shooting happened in a church where people were already praying, I'm not sure what good it's going to do.
It's not just like it's America where that stance is taken, Caroline Lucas was shut down when talking about climate change and the more extreme weather as a result leading to people losing their homes and lives. Her point was that continuing not to talk about it and letting it happen again shows far more disrespect than talking about it soon after the event.
Sadly, these shooting incidents in the States are so commonplace that they have ceased to be shocking.
I have a very good friend who leads an exemplary life and donates part of his salary to helping African schoolchildren through their schooling and he also fosters all sorts of children and without financial reward. However, his son, who is studying engineering and only recently rejected the Christianity foisted upon him, is now angry about the fact that he was indoctrinated with religion all his life. The exchanges between them are highly civilised but the bitterness is real. For my part, I think it's unethical for parents to indoctrinate their children regarding deities but the Church of Scientology seems to be very successful in converting adults, albeit with dubious practices.
from another side of the argument, what harm are they doing ? ? ?
Plenty of really decent people are religious, they do great jobs with charities ( home and abroad ) that are organised through the name of religion, would they would still do it if they were not part of religion ? ? who knows ? ? ? that must be a massive plus
It is easy to knock any churchy-joe, but plenty give more than they take out of society, if they take comfort in the knowledge that the big man upstairs will look after them when they die / or they are reincarnated ( delete as applicable ) who are we to judge them
You don't have to be religious to be a good person , plenty of people do good things without the need to tell people they are a Christian or whatever , religious people do not have a monopoly on morality and acts of kindness
I give money to homeless and mental health charities , I was brought up a Catholic but realised at the age of 13 it was nonsense
I was going to confession and whilst the priest behind the grate was babbling on , all I could think of was the girl in year two I fancied and going fishing later that day
Islam , the Catholic church etc all indoctrinate
But Scientology is a cult and it amazes me intelligent people are sucked in by its nonsense
Absolutely!
And to respond to the "reasoned debate" alluded above, you cannot have a reasoned debate with religious people.
They've made up their minds, the only people who can change their minds are themselves.
If you try to point out the absurdity of it all, they just dig their heels in deeper.
that is not what i said though is it.
i asked " would they would still do it if they were not part of religion " , of course we would never know, but the amount of charity work done in the name of religion is a fair amount that i see, from the project i am involved with in Zimbabwe to the " christmas shoebox " charity that we filled for the school last week, would these happen without religion ( though i must say the Zimbabwe gig is now completely independent of any religion )
You might not have said it but I think a lot of religious people think they have a moral superiority over those of us who are not , I think deep down it's a social get together , a fashion parade etc every Sunday for people who deep down are afraid of death
There may well be an afterlife , who knows but you don't have to be religious to be moral , kind and a good person
Have a look at Drury's Gun Shop of San Antonio (google). It explains the culture and what no politician would go against.
As for him bring deranged, wasn't the NYC attacker deranged? Are you classed as deranged if youre white?
He was ex- Air Force. The country has a fixation with 'Our Vets'. I always thought that a bit dumb.
We'll be here in 6 months, 12 months etc talking of the same thing.
I’m Catholic but that’s my own reasons and I certainly hope I’m not some sanctimonious arsehole judging others for beliefs or non beliefs.
Trump has done exactly what his audience wants him to say.
The offender (as he’s white) had mental health issues
Thoughts and prayers
No time to discuss gun control
If another bloke didn’t have a gun it would have been worse so thank God we have guns.
Textbook Trump. What a ****ing arsehole.
What Trump and his his government and NRA mates don’t seem to realise is that it’s bad enough having normal people owning their own gun arsenal but to blame the latest shooting on the gunman’s mental state is ridiculous how can they let people like him have guns. He was kicked out of the USAF for assaulting his wife and child so he’s had previous FFS