What Neil Warnock is trying GET ACROSS to fans

If you ignore the BIG 6 (Are Emerys' Arse good enough to be in there?)

Two results affect this table from BIG 6 games.
Watfords great WIN result at Wembley v Spurs
and Wanky Wanderers creditable draw at Manure.
No other B6 (Big 6 adjustments) are needed ....todays games won't affect this table except in the B6 Bonus Points column.

This is the table FORGIVE THE SHITE FORMATTING

..................... Played WON Drawn LOST B6-Adj POINTS
----Watford .............. 4 3 1 0 3 13
----Bournemouth .......5 3 1 1 0 10
----Leicester ............. 4 3 0 1 0 9
----Wankies ...............4 2 2 0 1 9
----Palace .................5 2 1 2 0 7
----Everton ...............3 1 2 0 0 5
----Brighton ..............3 1 2 0 0 5
----Saints ..................5 1 2 2 0 5
----Fulham ................4 1 2 1 0 5
----Burnley ................5 1 1 3 0 4
----West Ham ............3 1 0 2 0 3
----Geordie Bastards ...2 0 2 0 0 2
----City .....................3 0 2 1 0 2
-----Hudds ................4 0 2 2 0 2

As you can see we have played 1.1 games less than the average number played by the 14 teams in this league.

Neil Warnock and I know we are doing fine.

Burnley is a massive game I agree.

Interesting stats Always away.
I don't think we will beat Burnley. I am not sure where our first win is coming from, perhaps Leicester. We will just to hang on in with a few draws.

Are you constantly pissed?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Are you constantly pissed?

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Actually it is a valid and careful attempt to demonstrate that in the league we are in we have played less games than most others and we are doing okay and one win from midtable.

It amuses me that Geordie Bastards are actually unbeaten here!

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Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2

Actually it is a valid and careful attempt to demonstrate that in the league we are in we have played less games than most others and we are doing okay and one win from midtable.

It amuses me that Geordie Bastards are actually unbeaten here!

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We haven’t played less games than most though

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

We haven’t played less games than most though

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We are exactly 0.86 games down on the average.
My 1.1 claim was made after a nervous 10 minutes trying to format the post without losing all my work.
Games played in the league 54
Teams 14
Average games played 3.857

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Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2

We are exactly 0.86 games down on the average.
My 1.1 claim was made after a nervous 10 minutes trying to format the post without losing all my work.
Games played in the league 54
Teams 14
Average games played 3.857

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Erm, ok. Good luck explaining your own rules to the PL at the end of the season. 😳

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Erm, ok. Good luck explaining your own rules to the PL at the end of the season. ��

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IF you think we are competing against the big 6 to stay up then I think you are missing something!

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Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2

IF you think we are competing against the big 6 to stay up then I think you are missing something!

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Brighton beat Man U, Wolves took points off Man City and Man U, Watford beat Spurs.

Does these not competing against, and games not counting against, the top 6 rules only apply to Cardiff City?!?!?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Brighton beat Man U, Wolves took points off Man City and Man U, Watford beat Spurs.

Does these not competing against, and games not counting against, the top 6 rules only apply to Cardiff City?!?!?

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Fair play there are errors in my table. I will correct it. Thank you.

We are not competing with the big six to stay up, no.

People seem to forget that the big six do lose games to lesser teams though.
Writing games against these teams off is wrong.
Huddersfield and the like had big results against the unbeatable big six last season and these points played a big part in them surviving.

Yes, we will lose a lot against the better sides but need to be going as hard against these as others as a point or three on an off day for the top teams is as good as any against the teams around us.

A decent level of performance and keeping it close breeds good habits even though the result isn't there. We were fairly awful yesterday and to expect to simply turn it on against Burnley and start fixing misplaced passes and not challenging or putting in 100% effort is a dangerous game.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

We are not competing with the big six to stay up, no.

People seem to forget that the big six do lose games to lesser teams though.
Writing games against these teams off is wrong.
Huddersfield and the like had big results against the unbeatable big six last season and these points played a big part in them surviving.

Yes, we will lose a lot against the better sides but need to be going as hard against these as others as a point or three on an off day for the top teams is as good as any against the teams around us.

A decent level of performance and keeping it close breeds good habits even though the result isn't there. We were fairly awful yesterday and to expect to simply turn it on against Burnley and start fixing misplaced passes and not challenging or putting in 100% effort is a dangerous game.

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I agree 100% AND i will go further.

If we don't get a result in one of our remaining 9 games against the big 6 we will be at a huge disadvantage against the other 13 teams in our league that DO!

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Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2

We are exactly 0.86 games down on the average.
My 1.1 claim was made after a nervous 10 minutes trying to format the post without losing all my work.
Games played in the league 54
Teams 14
Average games played 3.857

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The only thing I can assertain from your work is that you don't like Wolves and Newcastle :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

The only thing I can assertain from your work is that you don't like Wolves and Newcastle :biggrin:

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No one likes Wolves or is that Leeds.
Geordie Bastards is actually a term of affection to me.

Jacks are relegated :hehe:

WTF is that?

CORRECTED TABLE
and Updated for Hammers great home point against the BIG 6 today


This is the table FORGIVE THE SHITE FORMATTING

..................... Played WON Drawn LOST B6-Adj POINTS
----Watford .............. 4 3 1 0 3 13
----Bournemouth .......5 3 1 1 0 10
----Leicester ............. 4 3 0 1 0 9
----Wankies ...............4 2 1 0 2 9
----Palace .................5 2 1 2 0 7
----Everton ...............3 1 2 0 0 5
----Brighton ..............3 0 2 3 3 5
----Saints ..................5 1 2 2 0 5
----Fulham ................4 1 2 1 0 5
----Burnley ................5 1 1 3 0 4
----West Ham ............3 1 0 2 1 4
----Geordie Bastards ...2 0 2 0 0 2
----City .....................3 0 2 1 0 2
-----Hudds ................4 0 2 2 0 2

As you can see we have played 0.86 games less than the average number played by the 14 teams in this league.

Neil Warnock and I know we are doing fine.

Burnley is a massive game I agree.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2

CORRECTED TABLE
and Updated for Hammers great home point against the BIG 6 today


This is the table FORGIVE THE SHITE FORMATTING

..................... Played WON Drawn LOST B6-Adj POINTS
----Watford .............. 4 3 1 0 3 13
----Bournemouth .......5 3 1 1 0 10
----Leicester ............. 4 3 0 1 0 9
----Wankies ...............4 2 1 0 2 9
----Palace .................5 2 1 2 0 7
----Everton ...............3 1 2 0 0 5
----Brighton ..............3 0 2 3 3 5
----Saints ..................5 1 2 2 0 5
----Fulham ................4 1 2 1 0 5
----Burnley ................5 1 1 3 0 4
----West Ham ............3 1 0 2 1 4
----Geordie Bastards ...2 0 2 0 0 2
----City .....................3 0 2 1 0 2
-----Hudds ................4 0 2 2 0 2

As you can see we have played 0.86 games less than the average number played by the 14 teams in this league.

Neil Warnock and I know we are doing fine.

Burnley is a massive game I agree.

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“Neil Warnock and I” 😂😂

Who the **** are you? Kevin Blackwell?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

“Neil Warnock and I” 😂😂

Who the **** are you? Kevin Blackwell?

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Who am I.

AlwaysAway2
A poster with a sense of humour.
Also a fan who can see what our manager is trying to do.
Get off your Sybian machine pal.

For your benefit Fisherman
Neil is trying to manage a team and the fans expectations

The Big 6 have dropped 13% of the points they have played for against non Big6 teams.
2losses 6 points. 3 draws 6 points
12/90 is 13.3%.

This demonstrates their dominance.
Well done Watford and Brighton

If we win at Wembley we can join them.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

We haven’t played less games than most though

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Grammatically speaking, you're both wong. It's FEWER.

But then again, if you're pissed, you get a get-out-of-jail-free card. Grammatically speaking.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2

Who am I.

AlwaysAway2
A poster with a sense of humour.
Also a fan who can see what our manager is trying to do.
Get off your Sybian machine pal.

For your benefit Fisherman
Neil is trying to manage a team and the fans expectations

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Ye. Neil has got his head screwed on, like me and AlwaysAway2.

Neil, AlwaysAway2 and I are trying to help you guys.

mmm, not so sure.

We play 38 games - if you write off the top 6 then we play 26 games.

So far we've got 2 points from 3 games = 0.666 points per game.

0.666 * 26 = 17 points - don't think that will keep us up.

If we replicate that across the other teams the only team to finish below us will be Huddesfield

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Originally Posted by Toadstool

mmm, not so sure.

We play 38 games - if you write off the top 6 then we play 26 games.

So far we've got 2 points from 3 games = 0.666 points per game.

0.666 * 26 = 17 points - don't think that will keep us up.

If we replicate that across the other teams the only team to finish below us will be Huddesfield

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You’ve just extrapolated a season where we draw every game based on the results of 2 games.

AA2’s point is that those 26 games are the ones where we could average more than a draw a game, and we’ll need to to have a chance. Hence why Burnley is a massive game

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton

You’ve just extrapolated a season where we draw every game based on the results of 2 games.

AA2’s point is that those 26 games are the ones where we could average more than a draw a game, and we’ll need to to have a chance. Hence why Burnley is a massive game

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yes, but its the same for all the others as well - I don't see what the point of the table is, at the end of the day if we are still bottom three at christmas we're probably down.

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Originally Posted by Toadstool

yes, but its the same for all the others as well - I don't see what the point of the table is, at the end of the day if we are still bottom three at christmas we're probably down.

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You are right
BUT
The point of the table is that it will reflect how we are really doing rather than accept we are in trouble.
We are not YET.
I intend to post it every week. Ignore it if you don't believe in its merit.

By Xmas it will have no relevance at all as we will all have played the big 6 once barring postponements.

As the second half of the season progresses it will have relevance again but LESS relevance.