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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
A random page in your post history
Let's hope you don't piss someone off enough for them to see you've been half arsing risk assessments :hehe:
pmsl. WHAAAT? Meeee? No way. Everyone was impressed with my 100 page document that I produced overnight.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
lardy
ISPs still know what you've visited, ya goon. :hehe: :hehe:
Incognito mode just works at your end.
Oh fack
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
What's to stop anyone who's an annoyance to the government, any opposition or protester having their internet history used to slander them?.
People slander the government of the day.
People despise parking fines, speed fines, fines for being on your phone while driving.
Fines for no TV licenses.
A friend of a family member got fined £1000 for having an out of date drivers license.
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Day to day people hate the law/government. As 90% of the time they only hear from them in a negative situation. Then they're happy to sign over every lasts scrap of information....
For some reason they've got it into their heads the law and government does the right and correct thing for the people.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
lardy
How small would the possibility have to be before you thought it wasn't worth it?
If they caught one potential terrorist but missed ten because the terrorists found alternative ways to communicate than hotmail, would you still be happy with the charter?
The security services of the UK have and always will do what they please.
Stopping terrorists discussing things of gmail is an excuse really for a blanket charter.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
I'm surprised the calls to ban whatsapp haven't happened yet considering every message is encrypted.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
nugent
I'm all for it tbh. Could help stop kiddy fiddlers, terrorists etc etc.
Just don't like the fact companies like BT get their paws on your information
Remind me again how that child abuse enquiry is going?
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
itkman
I have nothing to hide anyway.
Do you mind if I sit in your living room every evening just to make sure? :biggrin:
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
Keith Weller is back in the news again.:facepalm:
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
Surely there's a simple way around this?
If everyone in the uk typed certain things into google every day then their super spy computer would crash under the weight.
If specific keywords are a trigger (Isis,bomb making, politician killing, paedo terrorist on holiday in Syria should do it) then loads of people typing this would ruin their surveillance, thus making it all a bit pointless.
Even if they did have the resources to track down the millions of people doing it, you could just say you were pissing about. You could even show them this post as proof that you're not a beardy bomber, just a bit of a rebel that is fighting back against the snooping.
Problem solved.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
nugent
I got nothing to hide either.....
Mr and Mrs r in 1....2.....3....
Don't you hide the sausage :hehe:
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
Has bluetit ever said something funny? That'd probably be a good use for the snooper's charter
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Do you think terrorists just use a normal broadband provider and internet explorer? Any one intent on causing destruction who's clever enough to actually be dangerous will be using TOR or another such system.
This won't reveal anything about people like that.
Also it's been 12 years since the last major terorrist plot happened in this country, is it worth giving up a civil liberty for something which either isn't as big a threat as the media wants you to think or is already being handled by our security services without the need to look at what sites I've been visiting and what emails I've been sending?
I am not sure you quite understand the point of this change in the law. They have already been doing this, is one form or another, but it wasnt "legal" to be able to be presented in court. much of this is nothing new, only now they are enshrining it into law. Whereas before it was done anyway, but couldnt be presented in court.
And the secret services have found weak points in Tor, its more invasive to be able to use. But these new powers likely give them the legal right to use the more invasive powers.
And its 12 years for a reason. The same reason why most of europe is copying and catching up with what we have been doing for a couple of decardes
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
This is the thin edge of the wedge in the erosion of civil liberties how can anyone be all for this.
If anyone says "I have nothing to hide anyway" they're completely missing the point.
^^ This for a start.
The fact that this is about the snoopers charter is not what should be bothering people, not listening to the petition sends a clear message, they could not care less about what people want.
Apathy is all the consent they need to take over every aspect of your life.
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People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs
Very true. I know a few facts about the Colonel but next to nowt about his Mrs. Other than the fact she can't drive between Llandaf North and Radyr very easily.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs
To people are paranoid about sharing information they don't want to share despite sharing information they do want to share 🤔
It isn't about paranoia is it, it's about civil liberties ffs.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
People are paranoid about the government "snooping" yet they give out loads of information on social media.
We probably know more about the Colonel than his Mrs
All you know about me, or anyone on here, is the stuff they are willing to divulge.
If you had total access to a year's worth of my internet history, phone calls, emails and texts then you'd know more about me than anyone else in the world.
This is what we're giving up to these people and yet not many people seem too bothered about it. In fact there seems to be plenty of people who are very happy for this to be happening because, y'know, the kids or terrorism and stuff.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
To people are paranoid about sharing information they don't want to share despite sharing information they do want to share
It isn't about paranoia is it, it's about civil liberties ffs.
They want to share some information for any tom, dick or harry. But then they moan about their privacy. Ok got that.:thumbup:
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
nugent
Pmsl .
No problem.
I've lost the key for my corned beef tin. Is it OK to search for "how to smash my meat in less than 10 seconds?"
http://i.imgur.com/QKVf5yX.jpg
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
They want to share some information for any tom, dick or harry. But then they moan about their privacy. Ok got that.:thumbup:
You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.
He won't care about privacy for as long as he can carry on Tommy Tanking himself into oblivion while ogling internet pics and vids of Russ.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.
O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.
Still completely missing the point 🙈
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.
:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.
Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
:hehe:
Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?
Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.
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He's got to be on a wind up, nobody is this wilfully ignorant.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.
Well that goes some way in to explaining why you think Slade was a great manager, the phrase 'Don't know shit from clay' springs to mind. :hehe:
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
Tandy
Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.
Why do they even need this new law then? Surely they've already got everything they need from social media.
Daft sod.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
It doesn't really matter whether you believe you have nothing to hide or not though. They will (presumably) only search through your data if they believe you have something to hide and therefore are starting with the view to find something. Your innocent searches may not appear so innocent any longer.
It's been so widely criticised and yet pushed through by this government. It allows MP's to have higher status than ordinary people which given the expenses scandal etc. etc. may not be a good thing.
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Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter
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Originally Posted by
surge
It doesn't really matter whether you believe you have nothing to hide or not though. They will (presumably) only search through your data if they believe you have something to hide and therefore are starting with the view to find something. Your innocent searches may not appear so innocent any longer.
It's been so widely criticised and yet pushed through by this government. It allows MP's to have higher status than ordinary people which given the expenses scandal etc. etc. may not be a good thing.
Yup, they're the ones that get to decide what qualifies as "having something to hide", and just look at the list of agencies that get to plough through our private lives:
Metropolitan police force
City of London police force
Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996
Police Service of Scotland
Police Service of Northern Ireland
British Transport Police
Ministry of Defence Police
Royal Navy Police
Royal Military Police
Royal Air Force Police
Security Service
Secret Intelligence Service
GCHQ
Ministry of Defence
Department of Health
Home Office
Ministry of Justice
National Crime Agency
HM Revenue & Customs
Department for Transport
Department for Work and Pensions
NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
Competition and Markets Authority
Criminal Cases Review Commission
Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
Financial Conduct Authority
Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
Food Standards Agency
Food Standards Scotland
Gambling Commission
Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
Health and Safety Executive
Independent Police Complaints Commissioner
Information Commissioner
NHS Business Services Authority
Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
Office of Communications
Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland
Police Investigations and Review Commissioner
Scottish Ambulance Service Board
Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission
Serious Fraud Office
Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust