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Re: Stay in the EU petition
There are now about 48 million people in the UK able to vote. If the petition gets to over 24 million then it would be worth taking note of it. Otherwise not. In any event, out of the 4.16 million who have signed the petition already, how does anyone know what proportion is fraudulent or submitted by people who are not entitled to vote anyway ? It is a rather futile exercise, instigated mainly by The Peoples Vote campaign, who have no interest in anything other than blocking the democratic vote of the 2016 referendum and ignoring the decisions of Parliament, who have already recently voted against the issue on a number of occasions.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
There are now about 48 million people in the UK able to vote. If the petition gets to over 24 million then it would be worth taking note of it. Otherwise not. In any event, out of the 4.16 million who have signed the petition already, how does anyone know what proportion is fraudulent or submitted by people who are not entitled to vote anyway ? It is a rather futile exercise, instigated mainly by The Peoples Vote campaign, who have no interest in anything other than blocking the democratic vote of the 2016 referendum and ignoring the decisions of Parliament, who have already recently voted against the issue on a number of occasions.
Parliament voted against No Deal, and it's still very much on the table.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
There are now about 48 million people in the UK able to vote. If the petition gets to over 24 million then it would be worth taking note of it. Otherwise not. In any event, out of the 4.16 million who have signed the petition already, how does anyone know what proportion is fraudulent or submitted by people who are not entitled to vote anyway ? It is a rather futile exercise, instigated mainly by The Peoples Vote campaign, who have no interest in anything other than blocking the democratic vote of the 2016 referendum and ignoring the decisions of Parliament, who have already recently voted against the issue on a number of occasions.
Bit of an odd way to the put the argument. The Leave Vote didn’t reach anywhere near 24 million and broke electoral law.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
There are now about 48 million people in the UK able to vote. If the petition gets to over 24 million then it would be worth taking note of it. Otherwise not. In any event, out of the 4.16 million who have signed the petition already, how does anyone know what proportion is fraudulent or submitted by people who are not entitled to vote anyway ? It is a rather futile exercise, instigated mainly by The Peoples Vote campaign, who have no interest in anything other than blocking the democratic vote of the 2016 referendum and ignoring the decisions of Parliament, who have already recently voted against the issue on a number of occasions.
The grown ups are talking here pal why don’t you **** off.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
There are now about 48 million people in the UK able to vote. If the petition gets to over 24 million then it would be worth taking note of it. Otherwise not. In any event, out of the 4.16 million who have signed the petition already, how does anyone know what proportion is fraudulent or submitted by people who are not entitled to vote anyway ? It is a rather futile exercise, instigated mainly by The Peoples Vote campaign, who have no interest in anything other than blocking the democratic vote of the 2016 referendum and ignoring the decisions of Parliament, who have already recently voted against the issue on a number of occasions.
I see the politics understander has logged on :hehe:
No where near 48 million people voted during the referendum.
It has already been proven to be a crocked campaign.
It’s not about blocking a democratic vote it’s about not sending the country further into the shit based on a vote that wasn’t even properly defined and has been judged to have been illegally funded.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
There are now about 48 million people in the UK able to vote. If the petition gets to over 24 million then it would be worth taking note of it. Otherwise not. In any event, out of the 4.16 million who have signed the petition already, how does anyone know what proportion is fraudulent or submitted by people who are not entitled to vote anyway ? It is a rather futile exercise, instigated mainly by The Peoples Vote campaign, who have no interest in anything other than blocking the democratic vote of the 2016 referendum and ignoring the decisions of Parliament, who have already recently voted against the issue on a number of occasions.
Why don’t you tell us why you think brexit is a good idea? Why did you vote for it?
10 pages now and still not one sensible answer.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
The grown ups are talking here pal why don’t you **** off.
An angry remainer ?
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Parliament voted against No Deal, and it's still very much on the table.
I don’t know if people don’t understand what no deal means or if they’re being wilfully ignorant.
No deal cannot be taken off the table, if we reach the brexit date with nothing agreed we get no deal. Especially as May has said she won’t revoke article 50. No deal cannot be taken off the table without article 50 being revoked.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
An angry remainer ?
It’s an issue worth being angry about. Yet again the working classes are going to suffer due to the arrogance of the elites in the Tory party who are more interested in party politics than the interests of the country.
Fair enough if you can sit back and not care about it. The majority of every country are happy to sit back because they think something won’t affect them.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
It’s an issue worth being angry about. Yet again the working classes are going to suffer due to the arrogance of the elites in the Tory party who are more interested in party politics than the interests of the country.
Fair enough if you can sit back and not care about it. The majority of every country are happy to sit back because they think something won’t affect them.
Since time began, the silent majority have sat back and done nothing. It ain’t gonna change now.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
The utterly vile Julia Hartley-Brewer has started. And for the avoidance of doubt, she's not vile because she's doing this, she's just a terrible person.
She's such a dumbass
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh, this is going to be a fun afternoon. You can sign any name you want to the Revoke Article 50 petition and use the same email address repeatedly. Let the games begin! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RemoanerMcRemoanface?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5E tfw">#RemoanerMcRemoanface</a> <a href="https://t.co/WMWKExiBUy">pic.twitter.com/WMWKExiBUy</a></p>— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1109087647706873857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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William Treseder
Since time began, the silent majority have sat back and done nothing. It ain’t gonna change now.
And since time began the lives of the silent majority have been improved by the angry minority who were willing to fight for them.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
lardy
She's such a dumbass
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh, this is going to be a fun afternoon. You can sign any name you want to the Revoke Article 50 petition and use the same email address repeatedly. Let the games begin! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RemoanerMcRemoanface?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5E tfw">#RemoanerMcRemoanface</a> <a href="https://t.co/WMWKExiBUy">pic.twitter.com/WMWKExiBUy</a></p>— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1109087647706873857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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She ignored everyone telling her the signitures don’t count until you click the verification link that you can only do once per email.
She’s probably one of the stupidest and most despicable people in the media.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
And since time began the lives of the silent majority have been improved by the angry minority who were willing to fight for them.
Can’t agree with that statement. Since time began, the majority of human beings all over the world have been peace loving people, but the angry minority have always been able to drag them into unnecessary conflicts.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
It is now officially the most signed petition in UK history with 4.16 million votes
It's now up to 35 million signatories, or am I just dreaming :biggrin:
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Why are you bringing up non eu migration?
Then the loop holes need to be closed then, what makes you think our government ignoring them now won’t when we leave the EU?
France and Spain make it much harder to stay there as an EU citizen in my personal experience. We don’t.
Also why are you so fixated on migration? It’s hardly the biggest issue affecting the U.K. in a negative way at all. It seems your whole argument boils down to it.
Migrants to the U.K. have a net positive effect on the economy. Why are you so against them?
It's not "My Whole arguement" I was just responding to other posters.
I really don't give a toss, whatever happens we will survive. As I mentioned in my first post, I was a remainer but now we have voted to get out the politicians should do it and not try to cock everything up, whatever the benefits or downside.
If they force us to go begging to cancel the Article 50 the EU will trample all over us for years to come, knowing they can shovel any shit they like on us because we are too week to argue. You can just imagine it every time we disagree with a proposal, some fench twat saying, "well if you don't like it you can always leave haha haha"
no thanks.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Parliament voted against No Deal, and it's still very much on the table.
It is still on the table because it is law. A debate and vote in parliament cannot change the law just like that.They will have to enact a new act of parliament to change that. Even if we do nothing then on the day decided we will cease to be as member of the EU. no ifs or buts. So they need to move fast to change the law!
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Can’t agree with that statement. Since time began, the majority of human beings all over the world have been peace loving people, but the angry minority have always been able to drag them into unnecessary conflicts.
I think you’re confusing the angry minority who’ve fought for citizens rights to the elites who’ve caused wars and conflicts.
All the rights you have, have been gained by this minority who were willing to fight for what they believed in.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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xsnaggle
I really don't give a toss, whatever happens we will survive.
Jesus Christ
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
It’s an issue worth being angry about. Yet again the working classes are going to suffer due to the arrogance of the elites in the Tory party who are more interested in party politics than the interests of the country.
Fair enough if you can sit back and not care about it. The majority of every country are happy to sit back because they think something won’t affect them.
I think it is Corbyn who is more interested in party politics, even when he met all the opposition party leaders last week one of them said he wasn't trying to reach a consensus and didn't listen to anything, he just kept plugging the labour party deal
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
It's not "My Whole arguement" I was just responding to other posters.
I really don't give a toss, whatever happens we will survive. As I mentioned in my first post, I was a remainer but now we have voted to get out the politicians should do it and not try to cock everything up, whatever the benefits or downside.
If they force us to go begging to cancel the Article 50 the EU will trample all over us for years to come, knowing they can shovel any shit they like on us because we are too week to argue. You can just imagine it every time we disagree with a proposal, some fench twat saying, "well if you don't like it you can always leave haha haha"
no thanks.
Yeah, like an EU army, mandatory single currency, and no more opt-outs.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Jesus Christ
It's true whether you like it or not!
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
It's not "My Whole arguement" I was just responding to other posters.
I really don't give a toss, whatever happens we will survive. As I mentioned in my first post, I was a remainer but now we have voted to get out the politicians should do it and not try to cock everything up, whatever the benefits or downside.
If they force us to go begging to cancel the Article 50 the EU will trample all over us for years to come, knowing they can shovel any shit they like on us because we are too week to argue. You can just imagine it every time we disagree with a proposal, some fench twat saying, "well if you don't like it you can always leave haha haha"
no thanks.
We don’t need to beg to revoke article 50 that’s still entirely up to the U.K. The EU cannot reject that.
I don’t think you understand how the voting works if you think the EU will be able to trample over us. It’s the same as people worrying about an EU army, you only need one country to vote against it, nothing can be forced on us.
It’s the same as why any sane person knew turkey wouldn’t be joining.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
It is still on the table because it is law. A debate and vote in parliament cannot change the law just like that.They will have to enact a new act of parliament to change that. Even if we do nothing then on the day decided we will cease to be as member of the EU. no ifs or buts. So they need to move fast to change the law!
Well I don't think it's because of the law. It's just that is the nature of having a deal or not. I'm not sure what law you're referring to.
But my point, as per dml's post, was that just because parliament have voted on something, it doesn't mean that it's blocked off. If people don't like something parliament have done, they've every right to protest.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Yeah, like an EU army, mandatory single currency, and no more opt-outs.
You don’t understand how EU voting works.