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Re: LATEST: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
City second best in second half. We aren't cutting through them like they are through us. And their fans are making Etheridge uncomfortable.
To be honest it should be 4 - 1 at least.
Etheridge isn't even a good keeper at League 1 level. I think we have a strong first 11, a few good backups but beyond that we lack quality.
We'll flirt with the playoffs.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
In the classic words of Frazier ""we're doomed""
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
My 1st away game since Oxford in a pre season friendly a few years back.
Left with 10 minutes to go. Played well 1st half but second half they were all over us and should have scored 5.
Our Keeper was dodgy, kept kicking it out into touch from goal kicks.
He did make one world class save though.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
I won't write etheridge off yet. It's one pre season game.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
uncle bob
My 1st away game since Oxford in a pre season friendly a few years back.
Left with 10 minutes to go. Played well 1st half but second half they were all over us and should have scored 5.
Our Keeper was dodgy, kept kicking it out into touch from goal kicks.
He did make one world class save though.
Distribution from the 'keeper is one of the more important aspects of the game these days. Etheridge's kicking has never been good.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Kris
Distribution from the 'keeper is one of the more important aspects of the game these days. Etheridge's kicking has never been good.
Leave it there Pep, it's not that important at this level, especially if you're a Neil Warnock team who don't play it out from the back.
Marshalls distribution was one of the poorest parts of game and he's been one of the best keepers in this division over several years.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Kris
Distribution from the 'keeper is one of the more important aspects of the game these days. Etheridge's kicking has never been good.
Like Marshall then
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
Same as Marshall, his kicking was woeful too.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Leave it there Pep, it's not that important at this level, especially if you're a Neil Warnock team who don't play it out from the back.
Marshalls distribution was one of the poorest parts of game and he's been one of the best keepers in this division over several years.
:hehe:
Exactly
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Leave it there Pep, it's not that important at this level, especially if you're a Neil Warnock team who don't play it out from the back.
Marshalls distribution was one of the poorest parts of game and he's been one of the best keepers in this division over several years.
:thumbup:
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Leave it there Pep, it's not that important at this level, especially if you're a Neil Warnock team who don't play it out from the back.
Marshalls distribution was one of the poorest parts of game and he's been one of the best keepers in this division over several years.
Etheridge's distribution is worse than Marshall's. Distribution from the 'keeper is important, even more so if you are not playing it from the back. Unless you think it makes sense to have the ball coming back at you from every goal kick. :facepalm:
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Thoth
Same as Marshall, his kicking was woeful too.
If Etheridge was Scottish, undoubtedly he would be getting just as many caps as Marshall. :facepalm: Etheridge is nothing like Marshall, hopefully Camp will be available before we have to find out.
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Re: LATEST: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Penarth Blues
Looks like we're going to give away lots of pens this season if pre-season is anything to go by...
Luckily, it's not.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Kris
Etheridge's distribution is worse than Marshall's. Distribution from the 'keeper is important, even more so if you are not playing it from the back. Unless you think it makes sense to have the ball coming back at you from every goal kick. :facepalm:
Yes because he's such a **** that every goal kick he would take would land to the opposition or into touch :donkey: Unless Glenn Hoddle has become a goal keeper in later life I dont think there's a keeper in the world, let alone the championship, who can accurately ping goal kicks 60/70 yards to a team mate. Going high and long from a goal kick always has, and always will be, a 50-50.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Kris
If Etheridge was Scottish, undoubtedly he would be getting just as many caps as Marshall. :facepalm: Etheridge is nothing like Marshall, hopefully Camp will be available before we have to find out.
Ifs, ifs, ifs. If your auntie had a cock she would be your uncle.
Besides its not like Marshall has got loads of caps for Scotland.
Etheridge has twice as many international caps for his country. :hehe:
I don't think anyone is saying he's as good as Marshall just tearing apart the importance you're placing on keeper distribution at this level.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
In the classic words of Frazier ""we're doomed""
Sounds like they played more like Niles😂😂😂
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I don't know if half these comments are taking the mick or serious :sherlock:
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Kris
Etheridge's distribution is worse than Marshall's. Distribution from the 'keeper is important, even more so if you are not playing it from the back. Unless you think it makes sense to have the ball coming back at you from every goal kick. :facepalm:
Isn't distribution more important if you play it out from the back?
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
BlueArmy 86
Isn't distribution more important if you play it out from the back?
A 'keeper distributing the ball from the back usually only has to roll the ball a couple of feet to a nearby team mate, so no great skill needed there - finding a team mate with a 50 yard up-field kick involves a greater degree of difficulty, surely?
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Yes because he's such a **** that every goal kick he would take would land to the opposition or into touch :donkey: Unless Glenn Hoddle has become a goal keeper in later life I dont think there's a keeper in the world, let alone the championship, who can accurately ping goal kicks 60/70 yards to a team mate. Going high and long from a goal kick always has, and always will be, a 50-50.
The stats show that goalkeepers kicking it long results on average in more shots conceded and less shots taken than rolling it out. Which is why more and more sides play it out from the back these days.
Most of the data is available from top leagues though, I don't know how the payoff differs as you drop down the leagues and player quality drops.
For throw ins however, a long throw is statistically better than a short throw, even in terms of shots faced following the action.
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
The stats show that goalkeepers kicking it long results on average in more shots conceded and less shots taken than rolling it out. Which is why more and more sides play it out from the back these days.
Most of the data is available from top leagues though, I don't know how the payoff differs as you drop down the leagues and player quality drops.
For throw ins however, a long throw is statistically better than a short throw, even in terms of shots faced following the action.
You can't roll the ball out from a goal kick?
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Re: FT: Shrewsbury 2 - 1 Cardiff
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
You can't roll the ball out from a goal kick?
Gurnam Singh would probably allow it.