Micheal olive and Robert Edwards
Old photographs and written words showing the horror of Hitler's stupid mistake of trying to take on the red army
Not another beevor or enemy at the gates but a good book
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Micheal olive and Robert Edwards
Old photographs and written words showing the horror of Hitler's stupid mistake of trying to take on the red army
Not another beevor or enemy at the gates but a good book
Was always on his 'agenda' though. The Germans were going eastward until us [and the French] declared war ..Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I read Stalingrad by Beevor thought it was a very good book. You couldn't imagine it could you.
It's superb , enemy at the gates is even more disturbing one section tells how the German soldiers were so hungry and cold they started eating their own men , cannibalism ! ****ing horrificQuote:
Originally Posted by joecity
Hitler met an even bigger psychopath in StalinQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Cheers for the heads up Sludge. Will look out for it
Enemy at the gates, a cracking film
Am currently reading a book Himmler. It's pretty heavy going as it is so thorough
If you like reading, try reading one of Mick Wall's (a name that should be familiar to you as he was one of Kerrang's main writers in the 80s) books on metal and rock gods. He's written a fair few on the likes of Ozzy, Marillion, bon Jovi, Guns N Roses, Axl Rose, Sabbaff, Ac/DC, Lou reed, Iron Maiden and my favourite, When Giants Walked the Earth: A Biography of Led Zeppelin
At Stalingrad the Germans in the Russian pow camps would go through each others crap looking for undigested food !! It's all in the enemy at the gates book it's horrificQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
Aware of Mick wall lol
Only zep book I have is hammer of the gods
What is it about Germany's history?
I hadn't heard of this one until today -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-a...first-genocide
Hammer of the Gods. Yes, I read that when it first came out. Damn good read too. All these books on led Zep keep the myth and legend of the band burning bright on what it is, or was rather, to be in a rock n' roll band. Sex n' drugs n' rock n' roll indeed!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Any one read Chariot of the Gods By Erich Von Danicken. Slightly off topic sorry but i used to buzz of shit like that and then read more provable/recent history as a counterweight.
I read it in the 1970's. He sounds convincing at times, but too often presents the flimsiest of evidence and hearsay as factual proo of alien visits.Quote:
Originally Posted by joecity
The Germans would have won if Hitler let his generals make the decisions early on in the warQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Mate he doesn't really convince you are so right but I so badly wanted to believe when I was young. Was properly thrilled until you read it properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
Instead he got into all sorts of drugs and went off his head , the Prussian generals were battle hardened experts and he ignored themQuote:
Originally Posted by TISS
I was born to be a sex crazed drug fuelled lunatic in a rock band but my bass playing was total crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
Shocking isn't itQuote:
Originally Posted by bobh
What about white America's genocide of the native red Indians ?
What a **** buffalo Bill was
They invented Methadone didn't they cause of a shortage of raw opium the Germans. Interestingly (sort Of) banned in Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Him and Goering were off their heads on all sortsQuote:
Originally Posted by joecity
Who is the author of Enemy At The Gates?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Remember reading or was it seeing about the sh*t to wake him up, the sh*t to put him to sleep. The sh*t to make him concentrate Hitler for that one etc plus there was a class documentary about Goering and his Opium habit and his early days and marriage into society noted family if you like. Much the easier to be a tool when you can;t feel your face if that's not downplaying the evil what they did.
And Kit Carson, and Custer...Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Have you read "Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee", by Dee Brown?
Excellent, and heartbreaking in parts.
The genocide of the Native American was started by us Brits, way before the Yanks went independent.
William Craig , cheap as chips second hand , heavy reading thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Maccy Blue
No but I willQuote:
Originally Posted by bobh
Never knew that ,i will look that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
Cheers. Will download a copy later. I am just finishing off Stalingrad. I think that glosses over just how really bad things were so look forward to reading the true picture.
Read some good books recently. Rogue Heroes about the SAS. And a book called Mossad - the great operations of Israel's secret service.
Mossad were brutalQuote:
Originally Posted by Maccy Blue
Related to the Germans and drugs, I've just finished Blitzed by Norman Ohler. Highly recommend it. Amazing industry behind supplying drugs to the soldiers and the high rankers including Herr H. Well written and an eye opener.
Nice one mateQuote:
Originally Posted by tricks