Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday informed President Reuven Rivlin he has been unable to form a government, according to Haaretz.
https://thehill.com/policy/internati...orm-government
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday informed President Reuven Rivlin he has been unable to form a government, according to Haaretz.
https://thehill.com/policy/internati...orm-government
Gantz won't be able to form a government either. Another election is coming.
Tell him not to come and retire here ,we can't do it either .
The management of a deep face colliery have got more pressing issues than forming governments in foreign countries
- oh sorry, I misread that, I thought he said Nantgarw
Which I expect shut down years ago
Benny Gantz has failed to form a government.
Now a final 3 week period of horse-trading before they all agree they're going nowhere and a new election is announced.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ion-government
Extreme right wing, corrupt, racist in Netanyahu, or slightly less right wing option in Gantz - what a choice!
As this election is a democratic one unlike a lot of other counties in the country where leaders or parties are imposed on one , I guess we have to respect the people's decision , Israel's voting method is based on voting for a political party and not specific candidates. And voters are allowed to freely vote via a polling station, Included in those potential voters there is about 20% black Arab Jews form all around the middle east who have settled there .Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Breaking news on BBC is that Netanyahu has been charged with corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
That could be his chanced scuppered
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Originally Posted by jon1959
They all seem to have something you don't quite like about them. Wonder what it is
By 'they all' do you mean both?Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieBird
The something I don't like about them is their extreme right wing politics and (in the case of Bibi) the explicit racism (party policy and social media posts) and corruption. Is that why you like them?
A middle eastern delivering real justice as the Israel's attorney general has charged Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with bribery, fraud and breach of trust in connection with three separate cases.
What's your preferred Middle Eastern countries, as you seem to only centre on one , can I asume you consider the others to be fine , stable, with full democracy and freedoms for all its people, and its religions, support of womens rights , choice of ones sexuality, allowance of practusing Christians ??Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Just list in as 1.2.3.4
As I have said on other posts I would rather be a dissident in Israel than Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt or most other countries in the Middle East. That doesn't mean that Israel is a liberal democracy. It has liberal democratic forms (and in some respects an effective and independent press and judiciary) but it is an apartheid state that systematically discriminates against its Arab minority, is stealing Arab land in the West Bank and East Jerusalem (colonial settler regime) to ensure the prospect of a two state solution to the conflict becomes impossible, and it maintains a stranglehold on Gaza (with the help of Egypt) which makes it one massive concentration camp (like the British in South Africa towards the end of the Boer War). That is what I think and have said consistently in all these threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Now explain to me why you think a thread about the Israeli political system (started by your mate W-B) should be discussing other Middle Eastern countries?
Israel has been the focal point of Middle Eastern conflict for almost three generations. It is a strategic ally of our government and the USA. It is a rogue nuclear power. It is in breach of a load of UN resolutions and international law but constantly protected and given cover in the Security Council (always by the USA and often by the UK and France). It has large 'Friends Of' groups in our Parliament in both major parties that is supported by its' London embassy and appears to have subverted our own liberal democracy on a regular basis. That profile is unique and doesn't apply to any other country in the world so it should be a matter of concern, not an excuse for another bout of deflection. OK?
It's only the focal point of conflict when it's been invaded by countries which execute homosexuals, stone women for being raped and shot any Palestinians who entered their countries.
If you wanted to make a list of which countries in the region had least to answer for , Israel would be top of the list to a rational mind.
As you reluctantly admit, it's a democracy and that's the only one in the region. It doesn't attack anyone who doesn't first attack it, but you don't like it and prefer to take the side of the horrible cruel regimes who'd like to destroy it.
What is it, do you think, which makes you empathise with these murderous regimes ?
I think I know .
Nope still don't get it your very eloquent and description of your dislike of Israel , but never call to account wuth the same enthusiasm the attrocities carried out by other nasty barbaric regimes such as Syria and Iran in that area, very confusing indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Here's a thought if one had choose to fly and stay into either Syria,Iran or Israel, which one would you feel safer in.
More dishonest bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieBird
I do not empathise with or take the side of neighbouring regimes. I have never posted anything like that nor anything that could be misinterpreted as that. You have a bad habit of peddling lies about what others have said or believe - hoping that no one will check back?
As I have pointed out to you before, it is particularly sickening that you pose as a supporter of Jewish people against anti-Semitic attacks whilst yourself repeating or endorsing anti-Semitic tropes, proudly supporting apartheid, dismissing Islamophobia as either not real or insignificant (you claim it is about religion not race in contrast to anti-semitism?) and downplaying the racism experienced by black and brown skinned people. You also distort history, abuse life long anti-racists (including thousands of British Jews who disagree with you about socialism and Zionism) and parrot the world views of UKIP and the white supremacist alt right! A lot of what you write could have come from the Griffin-era BNP (well covered by Searchlight) and they spent years waving Israeli flags as well - although most of them, but not all, have now reverted to the standard behaviour of racist Neil-Nazi scum.
What is it, do you think, that makes you empathise with these cretinous, racist scum?
I think I know.
I have answered as best I can why I have referred to Israel in a thread started by Wales-Bales about Israel. Can't do more.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
On your 'thought' as a European I would feel safer in Israel. I have been to Syria (never Israel or Iran) but it has become much more dangerous since I was there. I might feel differently as a Palestinian Arab. But as you well know there is a concensus across U.K.civil society, press and almost all parliamentarians (with a few dissident outriders like Galloway) about the nature of those other regimes. They are not protected and armed by the USA and often the U.K. and they do not have big supporters groups of MPs from both Tory and Labour parties arguing their case in the heart of our democracy. If you don't recognise that as a unique case then we will have to agree to disagree.
But if you want to start a thread about Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia or Egypt I will happily contribute and denounce their barbaric regimes - as Inhave done for many years through Amnesty and Reprieve.
To avoid confusion, there is no such thing as a Neil-Nazi, despite the mischief of autocorrect! BNP = neo-Nazi
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Originally Posted by jon1959
This is all nonsense . I don't support apartheid or white supremacy and I don't think I've said anything which could sanely be construed like that.
What you're doing there is to sling mud in the hope that some of it will stick.
As far as I recall , the BNP were just as anti Semitic as labour , if not more so I can hardly tell you why I empathise with them because I don't in fact.
An awful lot of black people in London would laugh in your face if you said I was racist actually, but I'm sure you think you know - you think you know a lot of stuff.
I've just checked, there are no Neil's in the shadow cabinet, but there is a Nia - I should that will be near (geddit!) enough for Ronnie Bird's purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
You've forgotten, there's still an opportunity for him to dredge up Neil Kinnock. Any port in a storm when one is psychotically obsessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
You'd know mate. You're the one who tries to find out people's names and addresses and stalk them.
Am I on " the list" ?
All you can hope for is they dont calling you Neil .Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieBird
Have you noticed that some now post things and say "lets wait for the gang of 3 " strangely I have noticed they hunt in packs as well , , perhaps they all belong to some secret ex goverment workers club, and see nothing outside of the narrow constraints of that narrow world ?
Well I think you can recognise the narrow world view of local civil or public servants in all three since you mention it. I've thought that myself.
Stalkus might be a teacher though, and possibly the same person as Cyril Evans or whatever he's called - I say this because they both try to piece limited information together to seem as if they know personal details about people. That's very unusual in itself , but they also share the trait of being absolutely useless at it and getting everything wrong.
I mean, it doesn't matter because I don't analyse these things in the way that many appear to here, but I mention it because they do all come across as public sector types and you seem to have had the same thought
New Israeli election on Monday. Not much optimism the deadlock will be broken and 'normal' government can resume.
Gideon Rahat, a political science professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and senior fellow at the Israel Democracy Institute, said the repeat elections also presented a more fundamental problem – they were beginning to test the very foundations of the entire Israeli political system.
Netanyahu continues running the country as an interim leader even though his previous term has ended and he faces three major criminal indictments, including the charges of bribery, fraud and breach of trust. The prime minister has denied all allegations.
“No one can legitimately say he can replace him until there is someone who is elected. Netanyahu is kind of the default in this situation,” said Rahat. “Theoretically, it can go on for ever.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...etanyahu-gantz