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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
I have not criticised him once since he has been at the club, but Warnock has to take some responsibility for terrible substitute decisions.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
Madine was doing his job, winning everything in the air; service was poor, also seemed to me others around him weren't expecting the ball to be won. Zohore did absolutely nothing when he came on.
Agree about Peltier - can only think he maybe had a knock, fit for bench but not worth risking for 90 minutes.
Did he?
I was at the game so have only seen it once but that looked like an absolute sitter just before being subbed.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
chris lee
I have not criticised him once since he has been at the club, but Warnock has to take some responsibility for terrible substitute decisions.
Tactics 2nd half in general I'd say.
Could've gone for the kill but sat back and were hopeless.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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The Bob Banker Spanker
Tactics 2nd half in general I'd say.
Could've gone for the kill but sat back and were hopeless.
They were there for the taking.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Did he?
I was at the game so have only seen it once but that looked like an absolute sitter just before being subbed.
Still a little work to do but should have smashed it home.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Did he?
I was at the game so have only seen it once but that looked like an absolute sitter just before being subbed.
It was a sitter but I've seen loads of players play across a ball and miss. He'll have been nervous too which won't have helped.
Let's hope we see a better player next season once he's had a proper close season with us. I actually think he's a better player than Zohore as he seems to have far more game nous and awareness - with no little skill too. He just needs a goal to settle his nerves - let's hope it's a season defining one for us a la Andy Campbell!
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Penarth Blues
It was a sitter but I've seen loads of players play across a ball and miss. He'll have been nervous too which won't have helped.
Let's hope we see a better player next season once he's had a proper close season with us. I actually think he's a better player than Zohore as he seems to have far more game nous and awareness - with no little skill too. He just needs a goal to settle his nerves - let's hope it's a season defining one for us a la Andy Campbell!
It was a mistake for him to start.
He won a few headers but never looks like scoring.
Colin always gets it right but that was a mistake borne out by him missing a sitter which would have probably put the game out of Derby’s reach.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
It was a mistake for him to start.
He won a few headers but never looks like scoring.
Colin always gets it right but that was a mistake borne out by him missing a sitter which would have probably put the game out of Derby’s reach.
Judging by Zohore's contribution when he came on he's either injured or knackered. I think NW was right not to start him and probably wrong to bring him on. We were winning at the time and didn't need him.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
It was a mistake for him to start.
He won a few headers but never looks like scoring.
Colin always gets it right but that was a mistake borne out by him missing a sitter which would have probably put the game out of Derby’s reach.
It wasn't a mistake based upon us winning during his time on the pitch. It wasn't a mistake based upon Zohore doing absolutely nothing when he came on.
It wasn't Madine that cleared the ball when Etheridge was picking it up.
It wasn't Madine trying to be the greatest skilled defender in the world.
It wasn't Madine too far off Jerome then easily brushed off.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
It wasn't a mistake based upon us winning during his time on the pitch. It wasn't a mistake based upon Zohore doing absolutely nothing when he came on.
It wasn't Madine that cleared the ball when Etheridge was picking it up.
It wasn't Madine trying to be the greatest skilled defender in the world.
It wasn't Madine too far off Jerome then easily brushed off.
No. It was Madine failing again to do his job.
If he had the game would have been beyond Derby and those situations would never have arisen.
Shame on him. And that is without the Wolves penalty miss.
He is a liability. I’m telling you.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
No. It was Madine failing again to do his job.
If he had the game would have been beyond Derby and those situations would never have arisen.
Shame on him. And that is without the Wolves penalty miss.
He is a liability. I’m telling you.
I thought the game turned when Madine went off. Yes it was a poor effort but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
simonp_ccfc
To be honest I don't care what anyone says but that is shite football. No composure at all, all shit themselves when the ball comes anywhere near them, there was no quality football the entire night just endless hoof Ball. They're meant to be professional footballers.
Are we the only two people on the forum who can see this? I'm naturally a pessimist when it comes to City (40 years of experience!) but some of the optimism on here is truly breathtaking. Delighted of course if City get the second automatic spot but I won't be holding my breath.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Badly Ironed Shirt
Only one winner from here.
Most consecutive passes by Cardiff tonight? FOUR, fckin FOUR. And that was for the goal.
You called it :cry:
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Bobby_The_Bhoy
You called it :cry:
I rest my case as they say. Pure unadulterated hoofball tonight. Warnock on Sky after the match: "I think we did alright actually!"
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
simonp_ccfc
To be honest I don't care what anyone says but that is shite football. No composure at all, all shit themselves when the ball comes anywhere near them, there was no quality football the entire night just endless hoof Ball. They're meant to be professional footballers.
Spot on. They only got the ball down and started passing in the 94th minute. Pass, hoof. Repeat. For 93 minutes. The goal was the result of 4 passes - the only time Cardiff did that before injury time. Forest wasn't much better.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
No. It was Madine failing again to do his job.
If he had the game would have been beyond Derby and those situations would never have arisen.
Shame on him. And that is without the Wolves penalty miss.
He is a liability. I’m telling you.
And Hoilett's penalty miss? Did you conveniently forget about that?
It seems you want to give everyone else a free ride for their mistakes yet castigate Madine at every opportunity.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Gofer Blue
I rest my case as they say. Pure unadulterated hoofball tonight. Warnock on Sky after the match: "I think we did alright actually!"
That's for the player's benefit. First half, Cardiff disrupted the game and pinched a goal. Second half was one way traffic. But, it's too late in the season to publicly knock players (from Warnock's point of view). Whatever he says has to be positive. If he said the result was a "blip" it would be hard to disagree.
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Re: DERBY COUNTY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Badly Ironed Shirt
Still in Cardiffs hands.
Absolutely!
Win at Hull (errr...)
and clich promotion in front of our own fans by beating Reading
WE CAN DO THIS!!!
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
The Bob Banker Spanker
Tactics 2nd half in general I'd say.
Could've gone for the kill but sat back and were hopeless.
How many times do you see teams go one up, sit back a d then concede
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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ccfc_is_my_life
And Hoilett's penalty miss? Did you conveniently forget about that?
It seems you want to give everyone else a free ride for their mistakes yet castigate Madine at every opportunity.
That is irrelevant. Hoilett, like SO many of our players, has been outstanding this year and so to criticise him for missing a penalty would be foolish, when you consider his superb contribution over the course of the season.
Madine, on the other hand, has contributed almost nothing and so has little good will to call upon. He is a striker bought to score goals - if he fails to do this and the team suffer (see Wolves and tonight) then we can hardly say, 'oh well, he has been great for the rest of the season so we'll let him off the occasional mishap'!!
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
It was a shower of bad luck and bad decisions.
I would have loved to have beaten derby, regardless of the promotion.
Never mind.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
Are we the only two people on the forum who can see this? I'm naturally a pessimist when it comes to City (40 years of experience!) but some of the optimism on here is truly breathtaking. Delighted of course if City get the second automatic spot but I won't be holding my breath.
No you aren’t. Effort, teamwork and luck will only get you so far, you need a bit of quality to get the success you want. Unfortunately this side lacks quality in the vital areas.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Penarth Blues
Judging by Zohore's contribution when he came on he's either injured or knackered. I think NW was right not to start him and probably wrong to bring him on. We were winning at the time and didn't need him.
Why is Zohore being made a scapegoat, the quality and service on display last night was equivalent to Sunday League standard, and in some cases worse. Zohore wasn’t given Anna decent service. Hoof ball isn’t the way and that seems all we have.
Warnock has done a brilliant job with the quality he has at his disposal.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Bobby Dandruff
That is irrelevant. Hoilett, like SO many of our players, has been outstanding this year and so to criticise him for missing a penalty would be foolish, when you consider his superb contribution over the course of the season.
Madine, on the other hand, has contributed almost nothing and so has little good will to call upon. He is a striker bought to score goals - if he fails to do this and the team suffer (see Wolves and tonight) then we can hardly say, 'oh well, he has been great for the rest of the season so we'll let him off the occasional mishap'!!
And what good do you think it will do to continually hammer individual players ?. We should be proud of this team and the effort they have put in over the whole season, no matter what happens in the next two weeks.
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Re: FT: DERBY COUNTY 3 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
I wouldn't be surprised to see Madine leave this summer - you look at the clubs he's played for and Cardiff is quite a change from what he is used to, maybe he, or his family, are having trouble settling in the area?