Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Sam Bowen has a pass success rate of 97% today. 33 out of 34 complete.
Vaulks average pass success in the league this season is 62% averaging just 20 passes per game.
It’s little wonder our performance improved today with Vaulks dropped.
I think Sam Bowen played very well yesterday.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
Bit of an unfair comparison when we had 3 in midfield yday instead of the 2 for the games vaulks played in?
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
Ceiron brown played really well also
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
Vaulks is not a playmaker though he’s being forced to do jobs that just isn’t his bag
I’m not saying passing accuracy isn’t important as it often puts us under pressure but I don’t think Vaulks is all that bad just asked to do the wrong jobs.
Problem is we have too many of the same player all over the pitch and lacking in others
Well done for Sam Bowen though long may it continue
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Sam Bowen has a pass success rate of 97% today. 33 out of 34 complete.
Vaulks average pass success in the league this season is 62% averaging just 20 passes per game.
It’s little wonder our performance improved today with Vaulks dropped.
But what about his long throws…. ;-)
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
Armitage Shanks
Ceiron brown played really well also
His poor header led directly to Reading's goal and he played multiple hospital passes that put his teammates under pressure.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Vaulks is not a playmaker though he’s being forced to do jobs that just isn’t his bag
I’m not saying passing accuracy isn’t important as it often puts us under pressure but I don’t think Vaulks is all that bad just asked to do the wrong jobs.
Problem is we have too many of the same player all over the pitch and lacking in others
Well done for Sam Bowen though long may it continue
What job should Vaulks do then?
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Vaulks is not a playmaker though he’s being forced to do jobs that just isn’t his bag
I’m not saying passing accuracy isn’t important as it often puts us under pressure but I don’t think Vaulks is all that bad just asked to do the wrong jobs.
Problem is we have too many of the same player all over the pitch and lacking in others
Well done for Sam Bowen though long may it continue
A professional footballer should be able to pass the ball successfully with regularity, only finding a man 62% of the time is shocking for a midfielder at this level
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Vaulks is not a playmaker though he’s being forced to do jobs that just isn’t his bag
I’m not saying passing accuracy isn’t important as it often puts us under pressure but I don’t think Vaulks is all that bad just asked to do the wrong jobs.
Problem is we have too many of the same player all over the pitch and lacking in others
Well done for Sam Bowen though long may it continue
If taking the ball under control with one touch and passing it to a team mate 10-20 yards away isnt his bag then maybe he shouldn’t be playing midfield in the Championship
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
LeningradCowboy
His poor header led directly to Reading's goal and he played multiple hospital passes that put his teammates under pressure.
One such hospital pass led to Pack's booking which limited his effectiveness without the ball.
What yesterday showed was a midfield containing Ralls, Bowen and Pack is capable of pass and move football.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
PontBlue
One such hospital pass led to Pack's booking which limited his effectiveness without the ball.
What yesterday showed was a midfield containing Ralls, Bowen and Pack is capable of pass and move football.
Wonder if there could be a place for Sang as well
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
If taking the ball under control with one touch and passing it to a team mate 10-20 yards away isnt his bag then maybe he shouldn’t be playing midfield in the Championship
Vaulks is one of the few that tries to break his lines with the passing.
Again he’s not great but it would be better with a pass map would be a good indicator rather than totting up stats from sideways and backwards passing like others.
Our team doesn’t make it easy. Often no outlet and about 60 yards between strikers and midfield
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
What job should Vaulks do then?
He should be in a one man defensive midfield with two outlets in front of him.
The Gunnarsson/Arter role
I’m my opinion we have about 3 players that all try to do the same job and it doesn’t work
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Vaulks is one of the few that tries to break his lines with the passing.
Instead of 'break his lines' with his passing, what Vaulks should try to do is pass to one of his teammates.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Vaulks is one of the few that tries to break his lines with the passing.
Again he’s not great but it would be better with a pass map would be a good indicator rather than totting up stats from sideways and backwards passing like others.
Our team doesn’t make it easy. Often no outlet and about 60 yards between strikers and midfield
Breaks lines :hehe:
Breaks his team mates spirit more like.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
He should be in a one man defensive midfield with two outlets in front of him.
The Gunnarsson/Arter role
I’m my opinion we have about 3 players that all try to do the same job and it doesn’t work
Gunnarson and Arter might not have been Pirlo but they could pass a simple ball 10 yards to a team mate.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
Vaulks given the role with 2 outlets. Feckin hell id feel sorry for those 2 outlets.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
Vaulks is alledgly a midfield player whose main attributes is passing , possession and tackling however many are in midfield .
Bowen is good let's not burn it out and except that level of consistency game on game
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Vaulks is one of the few that tries to break his lines with the passing.
Again he’s not great but it would be better with a pass map would be a good indicator rather than totting up stats from sideways and backwards passing like others.
Our team doesn’t make it easy. Often no outlet and about 60 yards between strikers and midfield
Vaulks should absolutely not be trying to break the lines. He can't. He was a centre back until he was 18/19 and it shows. He should win the ball and pass it to a blue shirt.
It's remarkable for someone who is technically gifted when it comes to striking a ball, how often he fails to make simple passes.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
He should be in a one man defensive midfield with two outlets in front of him.
The Gunnarsson/Arter role
I’m my opinion we have about 3 players that all try to do the same job and it doesn’t work
Vaulks isn't disciplined enough to do that. He runs around after the ball. Gunnar would put the handbrake on. We really, really miss Gunnar.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Vaulks is not a playmaker though he’s being forced to do jobs that just isn’t his bag
I’m not saying passing accuracy isn’t important as it often puts us under pressure but I don’t think Vaulks is all that bad just asked to do the wrong jobs.
Problem is we have too many of the same player all over the pitch and lacking in others
Well done for Sam Bowen though long may it continue
What's unfair about asking a player playing in the second tier in England to be able to pass the ball? Regardless of his midfield role, he should be able to pass the ball. A defensive midfielder(his actual position) breaks up play and ermmm... Passes the ball.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
If handled correctly Sam Bowen could be quite a playmaker for us.
Playing in a style of hoofing is not helping him one bit
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
If taking the ball under control with one touch and passing it to a team mate 10-20 yards away isnt his bag then maybe he shouldn’t be playing midfield in the Championship
This.
Re: Sam Bowen / Will Vaulks
Perhaps we need to think out of the box and try players like Vaulks or Pack as center half's who can play out of defence rather then the hoofing ones as that would improve our possession ???