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Homeless World Cup coming to Cardiff
As announced at last night's fixture, coming to Cardiff in 2019. :wales:
https://homelessworldcup.org/cardiff...ess-world-cup/
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A lot of the fans have already arrived judging by St Mary's/Queen Street.
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That will suggest Cardiff is the homeless capital of the World. Not good publicity methinks.
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Vindec
That will suggest Cardiff is the homeless capital of the World. Not good publicity methinks.
This will be its 17th edition. Has been hosted all over the world including Glasgow previously.
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Representing your country in the homeless world cup !!!!
Homeless - Travel the world playing football !!!!
Sorry but can't seem to wrap my head around the "Homeless World Cup"
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SABlue
Representing your country in the homeless world cup !!!!
Homeless - Travel the world playing football !!!!
Sorry but can't seem to wrap my head around the "Homeless World Cup"
They have a website which is very easy to find if you'd like to find out more.
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A scroungers convention then
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Baloo
They have a website which is very easy to find if you'd like to find out more.
Been on the website - Offers No explanation :facepalm:
Like I said can't get my head around someone who lives on the street - No home - No Job - goes football training week in and week out then gets to represent ones country !!!!!
Or am I so far off the point that's its ridiculous?
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SABlue
Been on the website - Offers No explanation :facepalm:
Like I said can't get my head around someone who lives on the street - No home - No Job - goes football training week in and week out then gets to represent ones country !!!!!
Or am I so far off the point that's its ridiculous?
Announcer at game last night kept referring to the “Omeless” World Cup. Thought that was something different??
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Assume there will be no drug testing
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All this complaining, can’t see what the big issue is myself!!!
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mazadona10
Assume there will be no drug testing
Might be worth watching then.
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It's just a ridiculous thing to go with everything else.
How long till we see the prison world cup, the gender fluid world cup, the lesbian world cup, the mixed race world cup.
Just a ridiculous and pointless event.
Who is going to watch it? Who is paying for it? What is the point?
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Hers is a link to Street Football Wales,http://www.streetfootballwales.com/home.html
They provide the players for both Welsh men’s and women’s teams for the Homeless World Cup.I have been involved with them in recent years by taking a team from the organisation I work for to their monthly match days.One of my service users went to Chile a few years ago, and another is going to Mexico this year.It’s easy to make fun, but have a look at the website and see the difference this can make to someone’s life.And believe me, the event,when it comes to Cardiff will be fantastic.:thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
mazadona10
It's just a ridiculous thing to go with everything else.
How long till we see the prison world cup, the gender fluid world cup, the lesbian world cup, the mixed race world cup.
Just a ridiculous and pointless event.
Who is going to watch it? Who is paying for it? What is the point?
Perhaps you should get the answers to those questions before calling it ridiculous and pointless.
Why on earth are you comparing homeless people to lesbians and mixed race people?
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Bruce Foxton
Hers is a link to Street Football Wales,
http://www.streetfootballwales.com/home.html
They provide the players for both Welsh men’s and women’s teams for the Homeless World Cup.I have been involved with them in recent years by taking a team from the organisation I work for to their monthly match days.One of my service users went to Chile a few years ago, and another is going to Mexico this year.It’s easy to make fun, but have a look at the website and see the difference this can make to someone’s life.And believe me, the event,when it comes to Cardiff will be fantastic.:thumbup:
I can understand the benefits of a football scheme.
What I can't understand is how much money is being paid for accommodation travel organisation which must be better spent elsewhere especially in less developed countries?
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Originally Posted by
Bruce Foxton
Hers is a link to Street Football Wales,
http://www.streetfootballwales.com/home.html
They provide the players for both Welsh men’s and women’s teams for the Homeless World Cup.I have been involved with them in recent years by taking a team from the organisation I work for to their monthly match days.One of my service users went to Chile a few years ago, and another is going to Mexico this year.It’s easy to make fun, but have a look at the website and see the difference this can make to someone’s life.And believe me, the event,when it comes to Cardiff will be fantastic.:thumbup:
How much will I need to get a cup of tea at the event?
Only kidding - looks like it is a worthwhile event.
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They largely self fund the trips via sponsorship,don’t worry you won’t be troubled to fund it yourself as a taxpayer.
This was supposed to be a reply to Mazadona
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Baloo
Perhaps you should get the answers to those questions before calling it ridiculous and pointless.
Why on earth are you comparing homeless people to lesbians and mixed race people?
Feel free to fill me in?
I'm certainly not comparing them, It's just there are so much of grouping together minorities for another event of which I can see no point.
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Does that mean "football coming home "
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Bruce Foxton
They largely self fund the trips via sponsorship,don’t worry you won’t be troubled to fund it yourself as a taxpayer.
This was supposed to be a reply to Mazadona
Surely sponsorship into longer term inniatives would be far more beneficial. In where there would be an actual benefit
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mazadona10
Surely sponsorship into longer term inniatives would be far more beneficial. In where there would be an actual benefit
If you look at the website, you should be able to decipher the long term benefits to the people involved.I think you’re just looking to be negative about it,and that’s fine, I’m not going to bother trying to sell it to you.
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mazadona10
Surely sponsorship into longer term inniatives would be far more beneficial. In where there would be an actual benefit
The World Cup is a focal point for broader and longer term initiatives. It attracts media profile and therefore sponsors. There are over 70 local, grassroots projects linked to it.
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I think you’re pissing against the wind with this one Baloo
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Bruce Foxton
I think you’re pissing against the wind with this one Baloo
I became interested as one of my relatives has worked with the Cardiff City Foundation. Playing football may seem trivial but the discipline and teamwork can really help people with various challenges gain the self-respect and confidence to start turning things around for themselves.
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splott parker
All this complaining, can’t see what the big issue is myself!!!
Dont worry, they will be selling them at 1/2 time :thumbup:
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Baloo
I became interested as one of my relatives has worked with the Cardiff City Foundation. Playing football may seem trivial but the discipline and teamwork can really help people with various challenges gain the self-respect and confidence to start turning things around for themselves.
Exactly,what I meant was some of the contributors to the thread won’t see it for what it is despite your best efforts:thumbup:
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Is there a disincentive for them to find a home as it will jeopardise their place in the team?
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Taunton Blue Genie
Is there a disincentive for them to find a home as it will jeopardise their place in the team?
Homelessness isn’t necessarily street homelessness, it can include people who are sofa surfing,in a Local authority hostel,supported accommodation,temporary accommodation,placed in a B and B.
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Bruce Foxton
Homelessness isn’t necessarily street homelessness, it can include people who are sofa surfing,in a Local authority hostel,supported accommodation,temporary accommodation,placed in a B and B.
I understand and I didn't intend doing down those who are in very unfortunate circumstances. It's just that drawing the line can't be straightforward.
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Taunton Blue Genie
I understand and I didn't intend doing down those who are in very unfortunate circumstances. It's just that drawing the line can't be straightforward.
Fair point,the line is basically,if you are not a home owner, or don’t have a tenancy agreement,you can be classed as homeless.Even if you are housed and suffering health issues due to your accommodation,suffering domestic abuse or even living apart from your immediate family you can be classed as homeless.Organisations such as Street Football Wales,and who I work for(Llamau) are ultimately,through many different ways,trying to find suitable,permanent accommodation for these people.
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Bruce Foxton
Fair point,the line is basically,if you are not a home owner, or don’t have a tenancy agreement,you can be classed as homeless.Even if you are housed and suffering health issues due to your accommodation,suffering domestic abuse or even living apart from your immediate family you can be classed as homeless.Organisations such as Street Football Wales,and who I work for(Llamau) are ultimately,through many different ways,trying to find suitable,permanent accommodation for these people.
Fair play to you, impressive event and worthy cause. Ignore the c0cks on here, if its not 1 thing its another but any reply gives them that feeling of sort of self worth.
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Bruce Foxton
Fair point,the line is basically,if you are not a home owner, or don’t have a tenancy agreement,you can be classed as homeless.Even if you are housed and suffering health issues due to your accommodation,suffering domestic abuse or even living apart from your immediate family you can be classed as homeless.Organisations such as Street Football Wales,and who I work for(Llamau) are ultimately,through many different ways,trying to find suitable,permanent accommodation for these people.
That definition suggests the homeless problem is not as severe as is made out.
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SABlue
Been on the website - Offers No explanation :facepalm:
Like I said can't get my head around someone who lives on the street - No home - No Job - goes football training week in and week out then gets to represent ones country !!!!!
Or am I so far off the point that's its ridiculous?
I don't know about you but I'd definitely want to continue to play football for all the reasons I play now (exercise, friends, mental health) only even more important to keep it up. Also, jobs, and therefore longer term security, are still often about connections and people skills so keeping/building those is only a good thing.
Don't know what implications are of cost of travel and who pays against cost of regular shelter but that's maybe a secondary point.
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mazadona10
It's just a ridiculous thing to go with everything else.
How long till we see the prison world cup, the gender fluid world cup, the lesbian world cup, the mixed race world cup.
Just a ridiculous and pointless event.
Who is going to watch it? Who is paying for it? What is the point?
Just to clarify a few points.
The Homeless World Cup is a big sporting event. In Mexico City next month (the 16th running of the event) , there will be 47 different countries taking part with over 500 players and over 200,000 spectators at the venue in the middle of Mexico City.
In Cardiff next year , even more countries, players and spectators are expected.
In terms of paying for the event , next year`s World Cup is fully funded by individual and corporate sponsorship and NO money has come from UK , Welsh or Cardiff public funds. So no cost at all to the taxpayer.
As previously posted in this thread , the definition of homeless extends far beyond sleeping rough on the streets to those who have no permanent address and rely on short term hostel accommodation or "sofa surfing" at friends houses etc.
The idea of the HWC is to raise awareness of the homeless problem and leave a financial and awareness legacy for years to come so that those suffering from the problem have a chance to get back into "mainstream" society and "belong" again . HWC 2019 in Cardiff will be measured success wise as to the extent of that legacy it creates so that the work of Street Football Wales etc. can be continued in the future and it can continue its work that has already benefitted hundreds of people throughout Wales. I have personally seen the benefits that SFW has brought about and met many of the people who have brilliantly turned their world and life around with its support.
When the event takes place here next year , take a bit of time out to speak to the competitors , their coaches, the referees etc (from the same background in many cases) - their stories are inspirational.
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The definition of homeless is basically, if you are not a home owner, or don’t have a tenancy agreement,you can be classed as homeless. That means my son who earns over £50k a year and lives for work reasons with a few colleagues temporarily, has no tenancy agreement and no longer owns a home is classified as a homeless person. The definition also probably applies to many students and workers living away from the family home. I'm sorry but it seems to me that if that is the definition which applies the homeless problem is not nearly as serious as the media point out and the need therefore for such an event is probably not the most worthy of causes. Of course there will be many worthy cases and many inspirational characters but until the true magnitude of real homeless people is known, and by that I mean those living on the streets, this event will not attract my support. Just for the record I donate to several charities but not this one.
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I think you’re being deliberately obtuse tbh, I don’t think people like your son would be seriously considered. I imagine if you did some proper research and didn’t rely on other people’s postings on here before turning your nose up at it you’d probably have a better understanding of the whole thing.
It’s been going on for quite a while and is considered very successful in contributing to fighting homelessness.
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Vindec
The definition of homeless is basically, if you are not a home owner, or don’t have a tenancy agreement,you can be classed as homeless. That means my son who earns over £50k a year and lives for work reasons with a few colleagues temporarily, has no tenancy agreement and no longer owns a home is classified as a homeless person. The definition also probably applies to many students and workers living away from the family home. I'm sorry but it seems to me that if that is the definition which applies the homeless problem is not nearly as serious as the media point out and the need therefore for such an event is probably not the most worthy of causes. Of course there will be many worthy cases and many inspirational characters but until the true magnitude of real homeless people is known, and by that I mean those living on the streets, this event will not attract my support. Just for the record I donate to several charities but not this one.
I can personally categorically assure you that the financial legacy benefits that will be derived from the Homeless World Cup will be used by charities such as Street Football Wales to assist the most deserving individuals.
If you still don`t believe in the cause but like to support charities , could I suggest you get your wallet out at the CCFC v Man Utd game just before Christmas where Cardiff City Supporters Trust have agreed with CCFC that a bucket collection will take place in support of homeless charity Wallich .
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Croesy Blue
I think you’re being deliberately obtuse tbh, I don’t think people like your son would be seriously considered. I imagine if you did some proper research and didn’t rely on other people’s postings on here before turning your nose up at it you’d probably have a better understanding of the whole thing.
It’s been going on for quite a while and is considered very successful in contributing to fighting homelessness.
I was merely pointing out the ridiculous nature of the homeless definition which disguises the real extent of the real homeless (such as those living on the street) by including categories of the population who clearly should not be regarded as homeless.
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Vindec
I was merely pointing out the ridiculous nature of the homeless definition which disguises the real extent of the real homeless (such as those living on the street) by including categories of the population who clearly should not be regarded as homeless.
I can understand your point about the technical definition , but don`t follow your "logic leap" to saying that is why you have no intention of supporting the HWC