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I can't remember many if any worse championship sides
Last season Rotherham were abysmal and Blackburn were a disorganised mess
Sunderland are a mixture and worse of both of them.
Nothing up front. Nobody who could pass a ball. A couple of blockers at the back that was it. There was no fight in any of them.
Apparently they can only bring loans in and there's no way kids like Woodburn are going to sort that mess out. Klopp would be mad sending the kid there.
Relegation certainties.
Cookie, summed his own team up well (taken from the BBC website)Quote:
Originally Posted by binman
Sunderland manager Chris Coleman said: "It was painful. I can't accept conceding 45 seconds into the second half. We can't make those sorts of mistakes where we are.
"With the sending off, sometimes I've seen them given, sometimes not. But that wasn't why we lost,
"To give them a goal like that, you can't do that, well you can, but we're going to stay where we are. It's bitterly disappointing.
"Soft mentality, simple as that. No toughness. Toughness is not just physical, it's not just about nailing someone.
"Toughness is mental, staying strong, making consistent decisions. It's no coincidence where we are."
Sunderland are doomed, maybe best for them to be relegated and start again they need to ship out as much as possible
Mighty chrisy coleman has been found out, no bale to..bail him out on this one.
I'm not fan of Coleman but tbf not even Fergie could get them out of the mess they're inQuote:
Originally Posted by Blooburd
I thought their kit was horrible today too. How can you ruin a striped shirt??? Whoever designed that needs putting down
Jesus. Me too. What a shocker. Why **** with a classic old-school kit like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by fugsyphil
If you got 10 mins spare take a browse through their match thread.
They are not happy.
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/thread...-1-18.1412363/
(94 pages btw - although less messages per page, so equivalent of 47 pages on here). But most involve Father Jack Hackett style one or two word expletives.
too many sides **** up their classic stripes. Sheff Weds are another. You'll see next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Coleman led Wales to magnificent success in France and assigning that success solely to Bale is very churlish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blooburd
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Ramsey and Allen played big parts too.
I'm sure our excellent defence in that campaign was down to Bale as well, I'm 100% sure Coleman had nothing to do with our organisation, tactics and giving Bale the free role which made him shine... :shrug:
Coleman is the best manager Wales have ever had, if he wasn't a Jack this board would love him
Speed was a better manager than Coleman.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
It's 2018. The Euros are over and we've failed to qualify for the World Cup. Coleman wasn't a good manager when he got the Wales job and he's not a good manager now.
Genius idea to give our only world class player a free role by the way. "Give it to Bale", Shankly-esque.
I saw on Friday. A real shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
We reached the semi finals of the European Championships. Until someone achieves better he's Wales' best ever manager, simple as thatQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
I agree. Coleman made some very good decisions in France. Having Bale helps, but getting performances from HRK, Vokes and Ledley on a big stage - give the bloke some credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
And made almost none since.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
2016 was the year of the underdog it seemed.
Us, Iceland, Northern Ireland.
Both those sides really cracked on in arguable far more difficult groups than ours.
We were fecking abysmal throughout the WC qualifiers considering we were top seed.
Coleman jumped into the Sunderland job far too quickly.
He could have resigned from Wales and held his nerve.
He would have had a Premiership offer (probably Swansea).
Now his reputation is quickly going back to where it was 5-6 years ago.
Only offers will come from abroad.