Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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22-01-18, 07:39
the other bob wilson

Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42770361
22-01-18, 11:16
CardiffIrish2

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42770361

They’ve achieved they goal though sadly TOBW. A prime minister with no spine called a daft referendum which most people didn’t realise the complexities of as he was scared of these idiots.
Never in British political history did the tail wag the dog more.
22-01-18, 16:17
David Vincent

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

If they elected Jo Marney they'd walk the next election. She's got more spirit and a better body than most politicians. That Henry Bolton is far too young for her. She needs an older man like myself to temper her feistiness.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/536829...cist-messages/
22-01-18, 16:24
Wales-Bales

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

It's time for a new political party to emerge with fresh ideas. Let's see what happens after the stormy weather is over.
22-01-18, 16:32
BlueWales

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

For all the huff and puff Farage couldn't win a seat in OUR parliament despite
several attempts.

UKIP was a blip of cranky twats and their day has been and gone.

Remainer til I die.
22-01-18, 16:37
Mrs Steve R

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It's time for a new political party to emerge with fresh ideas. Let's see what happens after the stormy weather is over.

Hope we don't get too wet. :biggrin:
22-01-18, 17:10
life on mars

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

Speaking to folk who have voted for them who are mainly labour voters ,I get the feeling they would if the right messages were they they would , even before Brexit they did get a 2 million vote ,their overall message resonated in the poorer areas
22-01-18, 17:50
Wales-Bales

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

Will the Clinton/Obama/Merkel globalist view of the world survive?
22-01-18, 19:35
CardiffIrish2

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Will the Clinton/Obama/Merkel globalist view of the world survive?

Wrong thread to comment. You’ve got about 5000 others which you’ve started to talk about this 👍
23-01-18, 00:37
Wales-Bales

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Wrong thread to comment. You’ve got about 5000 others which you’ve started to talk about this ��

BlueWales stated in this very thread that he is a Remainer til he dies. I was merely querying whether there will be anything left to be a remainer of :biggrin:
23-01-18, 00:41
Mrs Steve R

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

BlueWales stated in this very thread that he is a Remainer til he dies. I was merely querying whether there will be anything left to be a remainer of :biggrin:

:hehe:
25-01-18, 23:25
City123

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by David Vincent

If they elected Jo Marney they'd walk the next election. She's got more spirit and a better body than most politicians. That Henry Bolton is far too young for her. She needs an older man like myself to temper her feistiness.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/536829...cist-messages/

:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
26-01-18, 18:44
life on mars

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

:hehe:

Hope?
26-01-18, 19:34
Mrs Steve R

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Hope?

I'm all out of hope atm :biggrin:
26-01-18, 21:30
life on mars

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by City123

:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

Good on you Henry for punching above yer weight, in more ways than one .

Release the Farage
26-01-18, 22:08
Pilkers

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Speaking to folk who have voted for them who are mainly labour voters ,I get the feeling they would if the right messages were they they would , even before Brexit they did get a 2 million vote ,their overall message resonated in the poorer areas

Do you value the opinion of xenophobe 50 something unionist Welsh, I don't, the sooner they drop dead the better.
27-01-18, 11:25
life on mars

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Pilkers

Do you value the opinion of xenophobe 50 something unionist Welsh, I don't, the sooner they drop dead the better.

No, I dont value their opinion or bigotry .

I did say I was talking to folk that used to vote labour or still do .

It appears they are at complete odds with the free movement and Immigration views of the Labour as it impacts onto their communities .

The Brexit vote saw UKIP came 3rd ,in Wales ,13.6% of the vote, my gut feeling says that fact is still in play ,therefore yes they could seep back to UKIP .

They dont differentiate between refugees, entry via Calais ,or the European fee movement plan , they just see services squeezed .

The impact has a long history going back to the Blair government , and in hindsight the mistake ,to enable early entry of 2 million people on free movement ,without bolstering services in areas like the poor English seaside town ,and the valleys .

Labour need a strong policy statement on this to avoid a voter slip back to a UKIP .
27-01-18, 12:32
life on mars

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Mambo

A lot of the mess we currently find ourselves in goes straight back to Blair, mass immigration and the squeeze on resources, students getting into 45k debt to do a degree, the mess in Iraq, ISIS, Arab spring , massive PFI debts, the Welsh Assembly, rampant horrible Scottish nationalism - all of them a result of Tony Blair and some hair brained ideas - I'll give him credit - he thought he was doing the right thing at the time, apart from mass immigration - which he did deliberately

Private Finance Initiative (PFI) schemes were introduced to the UK under the John Major Government in the 1990s, with the first PFI project [Skye Bridge] tested in Scotland.

Blair then exploited more than anyone ,initially folk thought it was a good idea ,even socialist as it allowed Goverments like Blair's to bolster NHS funding and other social measures such as rough sleeping , I dont think anyone in goverment plans on disasters
27-01-18, 13:52
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Mambo

A lot of the mess we currently find ourselves in goes straight back to Blair, mass immigration and the squeeze on resources, students getting into 45k debt to do a degree, the mess in Iraq, ISIS, Arab spring , massive PFI debts, the Welsh Assembly, rampant horrible Scottish nationalism - all of them a result of Tony Blair and some hair brained ideas - I'll give him credit - he thought he was doing the right thing at the time, apart from mass immigration - which he did deliberately

How often are you in Scotland Mambo?
27-01-18, 14:34
Pilkers

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

How often are you in Scotland Mambo?

I'd take Welsh independence tomorrow if primarily it meant remaining in the EU, but also, and ironically the rampant vile bigotry of the little Britain insular underclasses and being governed by a tosspot public schoolboy elite has left me devoid of any loyalty to or fondness for mainstream contemporary GB.

I'm sure many Scots feel the same way, yet for aspiring for something different They're labelled as vile, dangerous, hate filled nats...Mental innit.
27-01-18, 15:44
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Mambo

Im half Scottish Eric, have family there - so once a year - sometimes twice - thanks for asking though :thumbup:

The independent vote - was horrible, listening to the relatives (on both sides) some of the stuff that went on - horrible nasty nats - not all obviously - but lots of it,

Where abouts? My sister has been married to a Scot for ~15 years so have spent quite a bit of time up there and never heard a word of it. I would be considered English to them too (1/2 Welsh by grandparents but born and brought up in England) so I would have thought I might get a load of shit up there but never.

Not entirely sure how Blair can be blamed for what Scottish people think or say, you might have to explain that one.
27-01-18, 18:36
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Mambo

Have family all over, I think Blair and devolution was a bad thing in a way that it then led up to the near break up of the UK - (as well as adding a new layer of red tape, and on the whole a waste of time) - just my opinion though - no need to go off on one.

Eric - did you used to be Dr Tim Muff on here ? (strange question - but you both seem very similar)

Nah not me, I was around when DTM was on here.

I don't think devolution can be attributed as the driver of nationalist feeling in Scotland - it certainly hasn't had the same effect in Wales.

The government is meant to listen to it's people, there was a demand for more localised power and they delivered that. Ironically Welsh and Scottish devolution has driven significant nationalist feeling in England for quite understandable reasons.

By the same token, would you blame Cameron for giving Scotland the vote? Some people do but I wouldn't.
28-01-18, 21:26
Pilkers

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Mambo

Have family all over, I think Blair and devolution was a bad thing in a way that it then led up to the near break up of the UK - (as well as adding a new layer of red tape, and on the whole a waste of time) - just my opinion though - no need to go off on one.

Eric - did you used to be Dr Tim Muff on here ? (strange question - but you both seem very similar)

**** the UK, sooner it breaks up the better, if you're so familiar with Scotland visit in July, there's more Orange order marches than there is in Ireland. Thats how British nationalism manifests itself in the central belt, out and out racism and religious hatred. The SNP arent my bag but they are at least all inclusive regardless of race or religion. That's some nerve you've got pigeon holeing them when your own in Scotland are still as twisted racist and violent as they've always been.
29-01-18, 11:35
David Vincent

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Pilkers

the rampant vile bigotry of the little Britain insular underclasses

You claim to be against hatred yet there is a lot of hatred in that statement.

I suppose you think the "underclasses" should be grateful for being pushed out of the labour market by immigrants who are not too worried about health and safety standards and who are prepared to work for less money. Should they also be grateful for the hospital overcrowding and the housing shortages caused by immigration?
14-02-18, 22:31
Pearcey3

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by David Vincent

You claim to be against hatred yet there is a lot of hatred in that statement.

I suppose you think the "underclasses" should be grateful for being pushed out of the labour market by immigrants who are not too worried about health and safety standards and who are prepared to work for less money. Should they also be grateful for the hospital overcrowding and the housing shortages caused by immigration?

Why are you blaming immigrants instead of those that are employing them as cheap labour?
15-02-18, 19:27
David Vincent

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Why are you blaming immigrants instead of those that are employing them as cheap labour?

If I lived in a crap hole country I would try and come here if I could, but I wouldn't come with the same sense of entitlement you find with many immigrants.
15-02-18, 19:34
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by David Vincent

If I lived in a crap hole country I would try and come here if I could, but I wouldn't come with the same sense of entitlement you find with many immigrants.

Not something I have noticed. They tend to live in the worst accommodation, do the worst paid jobs and the majority I have met are pretty bloody cheerful.
15-02-18, 22:52
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Mambo

To everyone - are you talking about :-
Immigrants (people who have moved here as they were offered a job), Economic immigrants (people who have come here looking for work as they are allowed to), Asylum Seekers or Refugees ?

Which ones have you met ? , where / how & why did you meet them ? and what work were they doing etc ?

I met them on Grindr after your dad turned me down because my cock was too small for him, who are you, the gestapo??

Funnily enough I don't go all Farage on them and ask them if they moved here without a job. The immigrants I know are mostly jolly EU folk who sing as they are pushing files and other assorted shite down the corridors. Is this the bit where you tell me that your posse is predominantly asylum seekers and they are all up themselves, none of them ever bought a round etc.

Which group do you think is entitled?
16-02-18, 10:38
cyril evans awaydays

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by ninianclark

Had you been drinking when you typed that ?, implying his Dad is gay, you meeting other gay immigrants on Grindr etc etc - sounds like you have more issues than Vogue.

Calm down - there really is no need to behave in that manner is there ?

It did seem to cross over the wrong side of a line between passionate opinion and rude antagonism. That said there was a bombardment of questions in the post he was responding to that could be as easily directed at the suggestion that many immigrants have a sense of entitlement that was made with none of the evidence that Mambo was seeking from Eric without comment.
16-02-18, 13:55
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by ninianclark

Had you been drinking when you typed that ?, implying his Dad is gay, you meeting other gay immigrants on Grindr etc etc - sounds like you have more issues than Vogue.

Calm down - there really is no need to behave in that manner is there ?

Meh, was a joke. Me and mambo like to have a Barney now and again, he has been a prick to me before and I have been one back. Its fun sometimes, I doubt he is precious enough to give a toss, unlike you, thanks for coming to his rescue though Sir Lancelot.
16-02-18, 14:14
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

It did seem to cross over the wrong side of a line between passionate opinion and rude antagonism. That said there was a bombardment of questions in the post he was responding to that could be as easily directed at the suggestion that many immigrants have a sense of entitlement that was made with none of the evidence that Mambo was seeking from Eric without comment.

Yes this. Ridiculous assertion that David Vincent and I go head to head listing our interactions with immigrants and then we all have a chat about whether immigrants are entitled or not (the people on average with the least wealth and worst quality of life are demonstrably entitled??). This place is bonkers and I thought I would respond in a manner befitting the nature of the post. Some of the things David Vincent gets away with saying on here unchallenged are complete rubbish. Direct the bleedin challenge to the guy making the ridiculous claim, not me for saying the immigrants I have met are nice.
16-02-18, 14:46
David Vincent

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

Yes this. Ridiculous assertion that David Vincent and I go head to head listing our interactions with immigrants and then we all have a chat about whether immigrants are entitled or not (the people on average with the least wealth and worst quality of life are demonstrably entitled??). This place is bonkers and I thought I would respond in a manner befitting the nature of the post. Some of the things David Vincent gets away with saying on here unchallenged are complete rubbish. Direct the bleedin challenge to the guy making the ridiculous claim, not me for saying the immigrants I have met are nice.

I'm sorry to hear about your cock. You might have met some great immigrants but judging by your comments about Mambo's dad I would guess the immigrants you meet are a bit unusual. I was going to suggest that you move in a small circle but in the light of your earlier post that could be misconstrued.

I can't write what I really think on here because I would be arrested. There is no free speech in the UK. If I moved to France I would keep my head down and mind my own business. I wouldn't go around telling the French to pull down statues. I wouldn't be constantly demanding free stuff. And I wouldn't tell the French to change their laws and customs to suit me.
16-02-18, 17:01
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by David Vincent

I'm sorry to hear about your cock. You might have met some great immigrants but judging by your comments about Mambo's dad I would guess the immigrants you meet are a bit unusual. I was going to suggest that you move in a small circle but in the light of your earlier post that could be misconstrued.

I can't write what I really think on here because I would be arrested. There is no free speech in the UK. If I moved to France I would keep my head down and mind my own business. I wouldn't go around telling the French to pull down statues. I wouldn't be constantly demanding free stuff. And I wouldn't tell the French to change their laws and customs to suit me.

You would need to leave your armchair David. What laws and customs have immigrants forced upon you? What favourite statues have you lost and as for constantly demanding free stuff, I am going to guess your comprehensive evidence will be a few inflammatory newspaper articles designed to boil your blood.
16-02-18, 17:10
Eric Cartman

Re: Anyone still prepared to vote UKIP?

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Originally Posted by ninianclark

Ive no idea re Mambo, Eric etc - but from reading the post - it was addressed to everyone I think - do you know any migrants, refugees etc - and how do you know them - fair question :-

My Mrs knows a mum and 2 kids seeking asylum here - they are from Albania, they are nice and want to stay here (of course they do - so would I if I was from Albania), they live in a place with people in the same situation. Some of the people they have to live with are criminals/conmen - the only reason the Mrs knows this - is because the family in question tell her what they are saying in Albanian.

My brother in law works with a nurse from Greece - he came here for the work and the money, his wife doesnt work, she is looking, and his 2 kids go to school here. - On a side note - 2 kids going through the school system, plus the benefits, plus the NHS etc compared to the amount tax that will be collected on the salary, it will probably be a net loss to the UK - but we have gained a nurse, and if his kids stay here, work here and pay tax here - then it will be a net gain - eventually.

So i guess like life its all swings and roundabouts, certainly no need for rather crass comments about grindr, cock size, Dads etc though. Probably pissed by the sounds of it.

No wonder you don't think it is a ridiculous exercise if you have only met two immigrants in your life? Oh wait, reading back you don't actually know either of them.

Do you walk around looking at the floor or is this typical of Wales?

I live somewhere predominantly white British and I could reel off at least 10. All good workers and jolly, not sure what they do behind closed doors, maybe they are plotting the demise of our culture as David insists but I would imagine they just watching telly and posting rubbish on message boards.

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