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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
Sparticus_Mills
The next Senedd vote is going to use proportional representation? In which case I would vote Green.
Yeah, they're getting rid of first past the post. 16 constituencies electing 6 members per constituency using the D'Hondt method (votes divided until all 6 seats are filled). Fun fun fun.
Good they're getting rid of first past the post, shame they're not bringing in STV. I'll be voting *redacted* as ever and don't think the 20mph will have much of a bearing on the next Senedd election. People will be used to it by then and we'll likely be about 18 months into a UK Labour government, how they perform will likely have a far larger impact on the Senedd than 20mph. Historically Plaid benefit from UK Labour governments, I think it'll probably be the same in 2026 especially with Labour having lost Drakeford (no matter what some on this board say, he is popular in Wales) and replaced him with a far less likeable leader
Off topic but my guess would be Labour largest party, Plaid 2nd, Tories 3rd and for the Lib Dems to pick up a few more seats in mid/west Wales thanks to PR, Greens maybe to get 1 or 2, Reform (or whatever they're called these days) to flop the way Abolish did. Labour/Lib Dem coalition from 2026.
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
chris lee
I would have to vote Labour for Bridgend, for one reason, we currently have a Tory holding the seat by a small majority.
Not in the Senedd, Sarah Murphy (Labour) is your MS
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
City123
Not in the Senedd, Sarah Murphy (Labour) is your MS
apologies did not read the post properly
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
City123
Yeah, they're getting rid of first past the post. 16 constituencies electing 6 members per constituency using the D'Hondt method (votes divided until all 6 seats are filled). Fun fun fun.
Good they're getting rid of first past the post, shame they're not bringing in STV. I'll be voting *redacted* as ever and don't think the 20mph will have much of a bearing on the next Senedd election. People will be used to it by then and we'll likely be about 18 months into a UK Labour government, how they perform will likely have a far larger impact on the Senedd than 20mph. Historically Plaid benefit from UK Labour governments, I think it'll probably be the same in 2026 especially with Labour having lost Drakeford (no matter what some on this board say, he is popular in Wales) and replaced him with a far less likeable leader
Off topic but my guess would be Labour largest party, Plaid 2nd, Tories 3rd and for the Lib Dems to pick up a few more seats in mid/west Wales thanks to PR, Greens maybe to get 1 or 2, Reform (or whatever they're called these days) to flop the way Abolish did. Labour/Lib Dem coalition from 2026.
Labour having lost Drakeford, he is popular in Wales :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe: Funniest post ever :thumbup:
replaced him with a far less likeable leader (impossible) :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe: You're hilarious
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
The 20 mph was in the manifesto so is part of the programme for government so people will have known it's coming
Also I am sure I saw somewhere that only 4 of all politicians voted against or abstained from the vote for the 20 mph
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
Nobody's Rep
The 20 mph was in the manifesto so is part of the programme for government so people will have known it's coming
Also I am sure I saw somewhere that only 4 of all politicians voted against or abstained from the vote for the 20 mph
I dont know how true that is but I wouldn't be surprised. Of course they disagree with it now though. They'll flow whichever way the wind is blowing.
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
I’d vote Tory at the moment, especially with the latest pushback by the PM
Conservatives doing conservative things
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
I vote anti tory locally and nationally
I want drakeford and several of his clowns out though so I vote Labour hoping the tories get a leathering but we get a decent Welsh Labour leader
If the assembly was liberal and being challenged by the Tories and voting Liberal would keep the Tories out then I would vote liberal
My anti tory voting intention is stronger than my support of the opposition parties
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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TWGL1
I’d vote Tory at the moment, especially with the latest pushback by the PM
Conservatives doing conservative things
He's trying to save his party
They are not doing it because they love everyone
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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JamesWales
I could have, but that would have played into those on here who can't move beyond tribal politics and Disney style goodies and baddies.
I've voted Labour way more than I ever have Conservative
I don't believe you
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
chris lee
I would have to vote Labour for Bridgend, for one reason, we currently have a Tory holding the seat by a small majority.
He's an idiot
If anyone in Bridgend votes for him after his performances they are an idiot too
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I saw a tweet yesterday which suggested that support for the 20mph limits was strongest among Labour supporters and least popular with Tory voters.
I think Labour's vote would be hit by this but Wales has two issues that would override this:
Plaid still has the dogma of nationalism,
Any threat that Andrew Davies and the Tories could take over would be snuffed out straight away. The public would rather 20mph than the Conservatives.
I would rather suffocate than the Tories
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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JamesWales
Dunno. Tory in Wales atm probably and I often use the regional vote for a slightly more obscure party.
I have nothing ideologically against Conservatives, Labour or Lib Dems. I do have an ideological issue with Plaid as I fundementally disagree with their raison d'etre.
Within that context I'll vote on the individual (particular in local elections) or a variety of other principles. For example, no way would I have voted Lib Dems after Brexit as they wanted to overturn the vote etc.
One thing I do believe strongly is that sensible, balanced and successful countries tend to switch between centre left and centre right every 10 years or so. That means that a change may be due in Westminster but it means a change most definitely is due in Wales.
The whole eco system of governance in Wales is too tied to the Labour party and it's not to our benefit, IMO.
It surely can't carry on forever can it?
That said, I had no real issue with Carwyn Jones and if there is a Labour govt in Westminster it may be beneficial to have one here also.
But I don't want what is effectively a one-party state, so I would vote to see change in Wales and endorse any party before Labour atm.
Ladies And Gentlemen
This has been a political broadcast on behalf of the raving and rabid Alan Bastard Tory Party
We know we ain't fooling any of you
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
He's trying to save his party
They are not doing it because they love everyone
They are doing it because it’s not achievable or affordable to the majority, many have been saying this for years.
If people were that passionate they would boycott Chinese goods which are made from power stations etc
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
They are doing it because it’s not achievable or affordable to the majority, many have been saying this for years.
If people were that passionate they would boycott Chinese goods which are made from power stations etc
I agree on the practical side but he wants votes
And he's not getting mine
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
I'd not vote, but picked other just to see the trend.
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
chris lee
I would have to vote Labour for Bridgend, for one reason, we currently have a Tory holding the seat by a small majority.
Anyone who is still a Tory has no interest in this country. They don’t even believe in government any more.
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
Heathblue
I'd not vote, but picked other just to see the trend.
By not voting you could be letting the tories in via the back door , especially in your constituency
None of the above is a protest I suppose but a feeble one if the Tories get back in because people can't be bothered
It's lame
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Ladies And Gentlemen
This has been a political broadcast on behalf of the raving and rabid Alan Bastard Tory Party
We know we ain't fooling any of you
You are the man who says writes posts about Tories being killed and how they should be scared.
We live in the poorest part of the UK and have done for decades but you personally are doing okay. It's the same for most people who talk about politics the way you do. The idea you care about poorer people is not backed up by evidence.
Disagreeing with you and a few others on here is a deep honour, Sludge!
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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JamesWales
You are the man who says writes posts about Tories being killed and how they should be scared.
We live in the poorest part of the UK and have done for decades but you personally are doing okay. It's the same for most people who talk about politics the way you do. The idea you care about poorer people is not backed up by evidence.
Disagreeing with you and a few others on here is a deep honour, Sludge!
Please defer from the utter nonsense saying I want Tories to feel scared
You have done that before and it's disingenuous bull
It's laughable for a tory like you who without doubt is comfortable thank you very much to try and play Queensbury rules as your lot are the worst
I sincerely hope the conservatives are routed at the next election and hopefully you will put a sock in your sycophantic and nauseating defence of the tossers
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Please defer from the utter nonsense saying I want Tories to feel scared
You have done that before and it's disingenuous bull
It's laughable for a tory like you who without doubt is comfortable thank you very much to try and play Queensbury rules as your lot are the worst
I sincerely hope the conservatives are routed at the next election and hopefully you will put a sock in your sycophantic and nauseating defence of the tossers
Oh get you sticking your chest out and acting the tough guy. If you can’t accept that people may just have a different opinion than yourself and if they dare to do so you want to make them feel scared.
Bit of a bully is it Paul ?
You are just full of hot air, a legend in your own ego it seems.
Heyho but I don’t think anyone is scared of you, other than old grannies and any single women
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
pipster
Oh get you sticking your chest out and acting the tough guy. If you can’t accept that people may just have a different opinion than yourself and if they dare to do so you want to make them feel scared.
Bit of a bully is it Paul ?
You are just full of hot air, a legend in your own ego it seems.
Heyho but I don’t think anyone is scared of you, other than old grannies and any single women
You are doing it too you clown
You love getting down on the lefties
So have it back Steve or whatever your name is
Do you want my address too ?
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Please defer from the utter nonsense saying I want Tories to feel scared
You have done that before and it's disingenuous bull
It's laughable for a tory like you who without doubt is comfortable thank you very much to try and play Queensbury rules as your lot are the worst
I sincerely hope the conservatives are routed at the next election and hopefully you will put a sock in your sycophantic and nauseating defence of the tossers
You absolutely did say Sludge. And more. Maybe you were or weren't serious, who knows. But you did say it.
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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JamesWales
You absolutely did say Sludge. And more. Maybe you were or weren't serious, who knows. But you did say it.
Absolute bullshit . And you venomously tried to suggest I was of the type that threatens MPs and Jo Cox type attacks .
Who knows ? Get out of here u little snake
I absolutely can't stand Tories though , you can quote me on that
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Re: If there was a Senedd election tomorrow how would you vote?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Absolute bullshit . And you venomously tried to suggest I was of the type that threatens MPs and Jo Cox type attacks .
Who knows ? Get out of here u little snake
I absolutely can't stand Tories though , you can quote me on that
Can't find the exact wording (but it's out there..) but below are a couple of quick examples:
Do I think you are the type to attack MPs like Joe Cox or David Amiss? I very much doubt it. But I think people like that are influenced by the kind of people who regularly post poison and dehumanising content online. The same way as endlessly calling Muslims or Jews or gay people poison or scum or implying they should be shot.
It's vile and has been for a long time and you should find much better ways or making your points
There are loads more examples like below. You do it a lot and whilst much can be taken with a pinch of salt, some of it can't.
Three quick examples of things you have said from two threads:
""James is a Tory voter. I would shoot him if it were legal"
"They are vermin like rats and if I found out anyone in my family or group of friends was a tory I would beat it out of them and bury them under the patio"
Page 6
https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...l-Tories/page6
"Nadine Dorries - she needs shooting"
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https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...a-7-pound-note