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It should be an interesting day. Here are the relevant Trump tweets which address the hacking.
Jan 3
The "Intelligence" briefing on so-called "Russian hacking" was delayed until Friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case. Very strange!
Jan 4
Julian Assange said "a 14 year old could have hacked Podesta" - why was DNC so careless? Also said Russians did not give him the info!
@FoxNews: Julian Assange on U.S. media coverage: “It’s very dishonest.” #Hannity " More dishonest than anyone knows"
Somebody hacked the DNC but why did they not have "hacking defense" like the RNC has and why have they not responded to the terrible things they did and said (like giving the questions to the debate to H). A total double standard! Media, as usual, gave them a pass.
The dishonest media likes saying that I am in Agreement with Julian Assange - wrong. I simply state what he states, it is for the people to make up their own minds as to the truth. The media lies to make it look like I am against "Intelligence" when in fact I am a big fan!
Jan 5
How did NBC get "an exclusive look into the top secret report he (Obama) was presented?" Who gave them this report and why? Politics!
The Democratic National Committee would not allow the FBI to study or see its computer info after it was supposedly hacked by Russia, so how and why are they so sure about hacking if they never even requested an examination of the computer servers? What is going on?
That most recent one
"So how and why are they so sure about hacking if they never even requested an examination of the computer servers? What is going on?"
He probably could have asked them himself if he bothered taking his briefings :hehe:
His briefing is today, but it still might all kick off :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
CNN have backed down and apologised to Assange after he threatened to sue them over somebody (ex-CIA) calling him a pedo during a broadcast.
Sarah palin is so dumb that a teenager "hacked" her account about 10 years ago by looking up where she went to high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
It is baffling she is still a politician.
Someone said it yesterday on reddit. If the media changed the term "hacking" to "guessed their password", people would take password security far more seriously!.
Latest Trump tweet.
I am asking the chairs of the House and Senate committees to investigate top secret intelligence shared with NBC prior to me seeing it.
Yeah, it's pretty clear he is going to take on the MSM, and I can see a few changes happening in the security services once his people take over. Thing is his enemies are stacking up, and there seems to be a power play going on .. unless of course it was all organised beforehand to fool the public and they are really all buddies!Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
How to tell when it's trump tweeting and when it's not. :hehe:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politi...htmlstory.html
I've noticed the WAPO and NYT have been forced into making editorial updates lately, which apologise for their reporting of inaccurate information. It seems like the fake news tables are being turned.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
Tweet of the decade from the former president of mexico:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/st...80450285375488
:xmashehe:
allegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
In the old days of the FXP scene, you could dump stuff on US military and government servers with very little work
It used to be a bit of a in-joke that when the scanners found open ports they always prayed it wasnt a US Gov PC but it normally was
Strange that no one has commented on this in this thread yet or that the CIA report into Russian hacking has not got a mention as far as I can see either - I know it's all part of the Liberal Elite/Fabian Society world control plot, but you would have thought they would have wanted to have a balanced viewpoint portrayed, because, after all, that's exactly what you don't get in the mainstream media.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Actually, I think that, for better or worse, the last person to talk in this piece has got it right.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38191313
It's still inconclusive as far as I am concerned, we'll have to wait until Obama leaves office and see if anybody in the know speaks out.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The fella in that BBC piece was spot-on, you have to view a news report and then find a 180° opposite opinion, and draw your own conclusions.
I think it unlikely that the Russian expulsions would have been instigated without good reason. Such things are usually reciprocated and the fallout could have escalated had it been a spurious action - and the fact that the Russians are happy to wait until Trump is in the driving seat says something.
Either that, or Obama is throwing his toys out of the pram.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Majority of Republicans supported it and felt he should have thrown his toys out of the pram earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Not surprising since Trump has enemies on both sides of the house. It's a bit like the New Labour crowd who are more aligned with the Tories than old Labour, since they answer to different interests. I'd reserve judgment until after Trump takes over, as Obama currently has a very firm grip over all of the various agencies and they share a unified agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I'd say it's more to do with their long-standing mistrust of Russia rather than trying to stick the boot into Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Well Russia didn't play ball over Syria, and there is lot's of pipeline business getting held up.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Interestingly, Trump said today "I think it was Russia"Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
Wasn't that the bit where he said it's Russia, China, and everybody else who are doing the hacking? It's hard to follow his thought processes at times :biggrin: Incidentally, the biggest hackers of all are the 5i's.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
QUESTION: First of all, did the heads of the intelligence agencies provide you with the two-page summary of these unsubstantiated allegations? And secondly to that, on the broader picture, do you accept their opinion that Vladimir Putin ordered the hack of the DNC and the attempted hack of the RNC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
"....As far as hacking, I think it was Russia. But I think we also get hacked by other countries and other people. And I — I can say that you know when — when we lost 22 million names and everything else that was hacked recently, they didn’t make a big deal out of that. That was something that was extraordinary. That was probably China."
I find it strange that people have called Trump a "traitor" to America.
The world is pretty sick of American dominance and foreign policy.
Being a traitor to America in regard to the current norm is probably good for the majority. Why would the world want a continuation of the current American foreign policy??. What is morally right about continuing it!.
A guy yesterday on twitter said that the news conference was the least statesman like event he has seen. "A circus", "I don't know what I am seeing, I am shaking".
George Bush played golf while talking bout dropping bombs on Iraq.
Who know's what information he is being fed, he's obviously dealing with people in the agencies and his own party who are trying to bring him down. I think there might be some changes when he takes over, as the people in key positions are clearly answering to Obama at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Blimey lads, even Trump himself concedes it.... :hehe:
Since when is "thinks" conceding? And did Trump do the forensic analysis on the computers himself or did somebody tell him? Maybe the same people who are briefing against him and leaking classified information to the media? :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Please don't think that I'm doubting either of your credentials as experts in hacking and international espionage. Perhaps you do know better than the man who will be POTUS next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
But it's pretty clear to anyone who isn't grasping at straws that 'thinks' in this context from a fairly stubborn man like Trump is as good as conceding. If he said conclusively 'it was Russia' then he'd be undermining himself in humiliating fashion just before he takes on the job.
And you know this, but nice try at doing a Feedback :biggrin:
I'd just hang on and wait until the new POTUS gets his own people into the key positions. It's my guess that there will be some major restructuring taking place, as Trump is clearly not happy with the current situation. On the plus side, it makes for great Reality TV :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
If that was true, why wouldn't he say "we'll be looking into it at the first opportunity"? After all, he's used the we'll look into it line many times for other things. It's going to be a lot harder for him to roll it back with his own people now he's said he thinks it was Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
You're working hard, I do credit you that, but it has no legs. :thumbup:
It should be quite easy to fix, you just have to remove the top layers who are responsible for policy, and do a sweep for any rouge elements. They will soon be dancing to his tune :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Hmmm .. Pinko's eh?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
:facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Well he's made life difficult for himself by saying "I think it was the Russians" then hasn't he?
How? I don't think it's worth the paper it's written on. All he has to do is uncover some nafarious activity (which he probably already knows), and then out comes the new broom.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
We'll just see if everyone forgets about, won't we? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I don't think you will :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy