A corbyn government would impose a limit to what you can earn

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

I'm a normal person and I don't class anyone earning over 50k as rich.

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Spot on , and that where this will fall down, all these cap will just result in people becoming self employed , and paying less tax ,try another idea JC.

Let grab another sound bite ,or talk about the strikes, and how its best they weren't happening in an age where folk are paid reasonably well ,compared to the 70's

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Spot on , and that where this will fall down, all these cap will just result in people becoming self employed , and paying less tax ,try another idea JC.

Let grab another sound bite ,or talk about the strikes, and how its best they weren't happening in an age where folk are paid reasonably well ,compared to the 70's

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It may come as a surprise to some people but things cost more than they did in the 70's

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Spot on , and that where this will fall down, all these cap will just result in people becoming self employed , and paying less tax ,try another idea JC.

Let grab another sound bite ,or talk about the strikes, and how its best they weren't happening in an age where folk are paid reasonably well ,compared to the 70's

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If the people in the background at labour were to elect someone, they'd choose a man or women who could kill the image of economic mismanagement that was created during the previous efforts.

But the public get the vote and here we are.

Umunna must be biding his time.

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

It may come as a surprise to some people but things cost more than they did in the 70's

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I was earning , buying and supporting a family in the 70 's and it was poor pay , and tough , commodities were way more expensive, then due to no real less competition on the high street .

School uniforms were pricey from specialist shops or M&S , now you have bigger supermarkets driving those prices down including M&S

TV'S were a premium,had to bust a gut to get one on HP , now everyone has one , plus many more in bedrooms ,plus cable TV costs , never-mind, I pads, tablets, mobile phones , PC'S , folk now have a lot more .


Myself and my colleagues cycled, walked , or got a bus to work , now the same car parks are rammed with cars some very top end , with some having more than one on the driveway, its all so much attainable and rightly so.

Holidays back then were a luxury , we had to settle for home based breaks at Butlins, Trecco Bay , now with a bit of saving you can fly your family to Spain within modest income earning families.

Things are way better now for the working person , in terms of wages and rights, and I'm only talking about factory workers, posties and rail worker type jobs .who were lower paid back then,not many having to walk to work now ,thank god .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

I was earning , buying and supporting a family in the 70 's and it was poor pay , and tough , commodities were way more expensive, then due to no real less competition on the high street .

School uniforms were pricey from specialist shops or M&S , now you have bigger supermarkets driving those prices down including M&S

TV'S were a premium,had to bust a gut to get one on HP , now everyone has one , plus many more in bedrooms ,plus cable TV costs , never-mind, I pads, tablets, mobile phones , PC'S , folk now have a lot more .


Myself and my colleagues cycled, walked , or got a bus to work , now the same car parks are rammed with cars some very top end , with some having more than one on the driveway, its all so much attainable and rightly so.

Holidays back then were a luxury , we had to settle for home based breaks at Butlins, Trecco Bay , now with a bit of saving you can fly your family to Spain within modest income earning families.

Things are way better now for the working person , in terms of wages and rights, and I'm only talking about factory workers, posties and rail worker type jobs .who were lower paid back then,not many having to walk to work now ,thank god .

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I read the other day that to obtain the same standard of living as the average person at the beginning of the 20th century (can't remember when exactly but between 1900-1910 I think) we would only need to work 17 weeks of the year. I am sure you are right, the average standard of living is significantly higher now than the 70's but it is also true that people born in the 80's and 90's will find it hard to create financial security for themselves. House prices are absurd, the average house price in my area was 4x average salary at the end of the 70's, now we are talking well over 10x.

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

I read the other day that to obtain the same standard of living as the average person at the beginning of the 20th century (can't remember when exactly but between 1900-1910 I think) we would only need to work 17 weeks of the year. I am sure you are right, the average standard of living is significantly higher now than the 70's but it is also true that people born in the 80's and 90's will find it hard to create financial security for themselves. House prices are absurd, the average house price in my area was 4x average salary at the end of the 70's, now we are talking well over 10x.

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Yes your are right life's new standards are tough to reach ,however the alleged new poor or hard up , seem still to have cars , mobiles and take holidays.

I think the difference now is about exclusiveness and expectation, back in the 70' and 80's folk could not or would not step deep into the world of debt,which takes us back to the clever and derisive financial world whcih has allowed that to happen , which consequently has enabled the property price boom, you can bet your bottom dollar if the extended freely handed out loans were not there ,no one could afford these silly house prices and the prices would drop.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Yes your are right life's new standards are tough to reach ,however the alleged new poor or hard up , seem still to have cars , mobiles and take holidays.

I think the difference now is about exclusiveness and expectation, back in the 70' and 80's folk could not or would not step deep into the world of debt,which takes us back to the clever and derisive financial world whcih has allowed that to happen , which consequently has enabled the property price boom, you can bet your bottom dollar if the extended freely handed out loans were not there ,no one could afford these silly house prices and the prices would drop.

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In my area proximity to London is the problem. No one who works in London can afford to live there, commuting takes an hour. Perfect for them but it pushes house prices up sufficiently that lower paid people can't afford to live here, but those jobs are still vital.

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Originally Posted by surge

While the idea of limiting how much people can earn is incredibly unlikely to ever come into real life - even the likes of Myleene Klass and Sol Campbell were given a voice to attack Ed Milliband's economic principles - there may be some merit to the idea.

Our public services are underfunded, this government has made it worse and has tried to push some of the most vulnerable onto charitable services instead. At the same time there are many people who earn more money than they know what to do with and some who use this to have undue influence in the political landscape and/or evade paying their due tax. The problem gets worse.

I watched a repeat of "Louis Theroux Goes Gambling" recently where one well off lady said she lost 4 million dollars in 7 years. This is absolutely her choice but the idea that she can somewhat happily lose that amount when there will be people within a 15 minute walk of her house struggling for food is tragic.

The problem of such wide income disparity and the impact this has on society is not easy to resolve but it should be taken seriously. At least more seriously than those defending the chance to inherit non-dom status.

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Great post Surge. Well said.

Corbyn's maximum wage is unworkable but at least it brings to the table the disparity in wealth between rich and poor. The gap continues to widen. That is unhealthy for our society and it needs addressing.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Corbyn's maximum wage is unworkable but at least it brings to the table the disparity in wealth between rich and poor. The gap continues to widen. That is unhealthy for our society and it needs addressing.

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I am not a Corbyn basher per se but unfortunately I think his policy does the opposite. It allows people to ridicule the possibility of tackling wealth inequality and inequality in general.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

I was earning , buying and supporting a family in the 70 's and it was poor pay , and tough , commodities were way more expensive, then due to no real less competition on the high street .

School uniforms were pricey from specialist shops or M&S , now you have bigger supermarkets driving those prices down including M&S

TV'S were a premium,had to bust a gut to get one on HP , now everyone has one , plus many more in bedrooms ,plus cable TV costs , never-mind, I pads, tablets, mobile phones , PC'S , folk now have a lot more .


Myself and my colleagues cycled, walked , or got a bus to work , now the same car parks are rammed with cars some very top end , with some having more than one on the driveway, its all so much attainable and rightly so.

Holidays back then were a luxury , we had to settle for home based breaks at Butlins, Trecco Bay , now with a bit of saving you can fly your family to Spain within modest income earning families.

Things are way better now for the working person , in terms of wages and rights, and I'm only talking about factory workers, posties and rail worker type jobs .who were lower paid back then,not many having to walk to work now ,thank god .

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I was working before the 1970s and I would say the average working man was probably better off in the 1970s than today.

An ordinary working man could afford to buy a house on his own wage. In most parts of the UK there was job security and if you got bored then another equally well paid job was easy to find. Unions were strong and I don't remember any zero hours contracts. Beer and food seemed much cheaper in relative terms but I've not looked at the figures. You were very silly if you bought a TV instead of renting like most people. They were always going wrong and the shop would send someone around to fix it for free. There were not so many cars on the road, but that was a good thing. People were flying to Spain for cheap holidays in the 1970s if you liked that kind of thing but many preferred to holiday in the UK.

I would say that people were happier and friendlier then but this is just my opinion.