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Drakeford more unpopular than popular
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...s-how-27320155
Comes as no surprise, but nowhere near as unpopular as Andrew Davies and Rishi Sunak. I guess the poll is in keeping with Wales as a mainly Labour country but also demonstrates that, even if Labour's support were to dive, the Tories wouldn't be the ones benefitting.
Interesting little snippet at the bottom as well, where immigration is far more of an issue to old Tory voters than the rest of the population.
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These kind of things are always really interesting to see. I often find the Welsh ones that ask people who runs certain services in Wales quite illuminating.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...s-how-27320155
Comes as no surprise, but nowhere near as unpopular as Andrew Davies and Rishi Sunak. I guess the poll is in keeping with Wales as a mainly Labour country but also demonstrates that, even if Labour's support were to dive, the Tories wouldn't be the ones benefitting.
Interesting little snippet at the bottom as well, where immigration is far more of an issue to old Tory voters than the rest of the population.
I wish he would retire
I like Carwyn Jones
Drakeford is like a deputy head teacher from Lampeter
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I would vote for SLUDGE if he stood .
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I couldn't possibly comment......
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I wish he would retire
I like Carwyn Jones
Drakeford is like a deputy head teacher from Lampeter
Youve got your tongue so far up his @rse you can probably see what he had for breakfast. Slurp slurp red rosette boy - go worship your leader blah blah
That's the sort of thing you usually accuse others of doing - so for a change - you can taste some of your own rhetoric.
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Originally Posted by
pipster
Youve got your tongue so far up his @rse you can probably see what he had for breakfast. Slurp slurp red rosette boy - go worship your leader blah blah
That's the sort of thing you usually accuse others of doing - so for a change - you can taste some of your own rhetoric.
I absolutely know you are a raving tory creep spoiling the landscape of Wales with your ways of a traitor by voting for them
And you know it too
Anything you can throw about is like trying to kill an elephant with a pea shooter
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
I couldn't possibly comment......
Probably not a good idea for a tory living in tax exile in France to comment on the person we welsh have elected as you say
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I absolutely know you are a raving tory creep spoiling the landscape of Wales with your ways of a traitor by voting for them
And you know it too
Anything you can throw about is like trying to kill an elephant with a pea shooter
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People are entitled to vote for who they want Sludge ,depending on their views , financial position etc. If a person doesn’t vote Labour how is that voter a traitor?
My wife votes Tory on the basis of the above and she can’t stand new Labour and neither can for that matter. Who knows she might change her views depending on the next GE manifesto.
Generally high bracket earning families vote for Conservative. Even a Tory voter can fundraise, give to charity , be an active member of the PTA , donate to homeless etc, have an interest in local charities, take kids on day trips etc.
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
People are entitled to vote for who they want Sludge ,depending on their views , financial position etc. If a person doesn’t vote Labour how is that voter a traitor?
My wife votes Tory on the basis of the above and she can’t stand new Labour and neither can for that matter. Who knows she might change her views depending on the next GE manifesto.
Generally high bracket earning families vote for Conservative. Even a Tory voter can fundraise, give to charity , be an active member of the PTA , donate to homeless etc
I don't really care
My views are I don't like the Tories and if I am in the company of someone who is a tory I don't have much to do with them
Bloke over the road was out on the street clapping for the nurses during the covid crisis , year before sticking up vote conservative Union jack nonsense in his window
It's his right to vote for the clowns , if it benefits him ......which is what you seemed to be suggesting tories do ......and i agree .....but its my right to chose to vote against them ......which sometimes isn't labour
As for Tories fund raising for the homeless ...Good god their housing policies since Thatcher got in are a big part of the reason why single people in particular struggle to find decent housing and get support if they have health problems
Voting tory abd therfore supporting their housing policy and then raising money for the homeless ?
It's like stealing 10 grand from someone then feeling guilty for what you have done and sending them a food parcel ......but only a small one
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I don't really care
My views are I don't like the Tories and if I am in the company of someone who is a tory I don't have much to do with them
Bloke over the road was out on the street clapping for the nurses during the covid crisis , year before sticking up vote conservative Union jack nonsense in his window
It's his right to vote for the clowns , if it benefits him ......which is what you seemed to be suggesting tories do ......and i agree .....but its my right to chose to vote against them ......which sometimes isn't labour
As for Tories fund raising for the homeless ...Good god their housing policies since Thatcher got in are a big part of the reason why single people in particular struggle to find decent housing and get support if they have health problems
Voting tory abd therfore supporting their housing policy and then raising money for the homeless ?
It's like stealing 10 grand from someone then feeling guilty for what you have done and sending them a food parcel ......but only a small one
My wife was not old enough to vote when Thatcher was in power and unlike some she doesn’t hold deep seated grudges.
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
My wife was not old enough to vote when Thatcher was in power and unlike some she doesn’t hold deep seated grudges.
Nor was I initially
But her housing policies were shocking and marginalised single homeless people
Now if I was at a village summer fete or carnival and someone was rattling a collection tin for shelter I would stick a tenner in but if over a cup of tea later they started going on about voting tory I would feel well within my rights ......as you say .....to point out their vote for the consevatives is more likely to cause homelessness than prevent it
That's my perogative
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Nor was I initially
But her housing policies were shocking and marginalised single homeless people
Now if I was at a village summer fete or carnival and someone was rattling a collection tin for shelter I would stick a tenner in but if over a cup of tea later they started going on about voting tory I would feel well within my rights ......as you say .....to point out their vote for the consevatives is more likely to cause homelessness than prevent it
That's my perogative
I think high rate tax payers pay enough towards the issues you have mentioned, how it’s distributed is generally a Labour decision in Wales
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
I think high rate tax payers pay enough towards the issues you have mentioned, how it’s distributed is generally a Labour decision in Wales
Do you ?
OK
Well that's the view of a Conservative or a person sympathetic to their policies
I see no point in arguing the toss with you , the Tories in Wales are seen by the majority as the enemy
And I agree even though I am not a left wing Marxist
I am off out for a kebab
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
People are entitled to vote for who they want Sludge ,depending on their views , financial position etc. If a person doesn’t vote Labour how is that voter a traitor?
My wife votes Tory on the basis of the above and she can’t stand new Labour and neither can for that matter. Who knows she might change her views depending on the next GE manifesto.
Generally high bracket earning families vote for Conservative. Even a Tory voter can fundraise, give to charity , be an active member of the PTA , donate to homeless etc, have an interest in local charities, take kids on day trips etc.
Yeah, but most of them don’t.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Do you ?
OK
Well that's the view of a Conservative or a person sympathetic to their policies
I see no point in arguing the toss with you , the Tories in Wales are seen by the majority as the enemy
And I agree even though I am not a left wing Marxist
I am off out for a kebab
Eat healthy and exercise is the way forward and positive for your well-being, spa.:thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Yeah, but most of them don’t.
How do you know that in comparison to voters of other parties?
That being said as long as we do.
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
How do you know that in comparison to voters of other parties?
That being said as long as we do.
I was joking.
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the other bob wilson
I was joking.
Looking at ONS the older generation tend to give more to charity etc as they generally have more disposable income
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Looking at ONS the older generation tend to give more to charity etc as they generally have more disposable income
It's guilt
They know what's coming
Hell
Especially the tory voters
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
It's guilt
They know what's coming
Hell
Especially the tory voters
You have so much hate in you - there is no remedy - other than to respond in equal measure Paul. Blah Blah Labour Boy, Labour filth, Socialist (not that you know what one is) "scum" - channelling Angie Raynor there.
I'm trying to think what else you have called me and others on here - but just been called by the wife to go can get the kids.
Enjoy the rest of your today ...what's there to do over there in the vale on a Sunday ?
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Originally Posted by
pipster
You have so much hate in you - there is no remedy - other than to respond in equal measure Paul. Blah Blah Labour Boy, Labour filth, Socialist (not that you know what one is) "scum" - channelling Angie Raynor there.
I'm trying to think what else you have called me and others on here - but just been called by the wife to go can get the kids.
Enjoy the rest of your today ...what's there to do over there in the vale on a Sunday ?
I was right you are a stalker
Does your wife know you are trying to hook up with other men ?
Pop over , I will hold you hand and we can go skipping off into the sunset
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I was right you are a stalker
Does your wife know you are trying to hook up with other men ?
Pop over , I will hold you hand and we can go skipping off into the sunset
Just giving you a taste of your own medicine. Still got that Huw Edwards poster on your bedroom wall?
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Originally Posted by
pipster
Just giving you a taste of your own medicine. Still got that Huw Edwards poster on your bedroom wall?
Yes I have been cracking one out all afternoon actually
Maybe he looks like you
We should meet up
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Everyone knows there isnt a woman on earth that would go anywhere near. I think you'd even struggle on the gay scene, I guess there is always Vale trans scene for you to infect