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Big brother is watching, but he don't need no credit card.
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Big brother is watching, but he don't need no credit card.
:yikes: Pull the other one..
They need to educate kids on how bad porn is for them whatever age they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Do these proposals address that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
Back to imagination
If we adopt the same for radical internet use wewoulc catch em all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Go Terresa go ,before the civil liberty PC brigade , catch on and start marching.
It will help stop kids finding porn by accident I guess, it does not stop it being damaging when you hit 18 though, I'm no Mary Whitehouse btw, but I have a teenage son so I have obviously looked in to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/
I thought masturbation was a healthy thing and relieved stress and other juices.
I found porn by accident, and a number of my mates had access to all sorts of videos when we still had squeaky voices. This was about 1990.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
Obviously, I don't want my kid seeing porn and it is my responsibility to make sure it doesn't happen. Likewise, I don't really expect people to supply identifiable information when indulging in a private pursuit (as long as it is legal of course).
This is data collection, and it has sinister implications - "the person suspected of this crime watched a lot of midget porn", "the person applying for this job likes watching a lot of group sex porn".
This will not stop kids from seeing porn, but I doubt that that is the real objective here.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.p...ddictive%3famp
It's always nice to add some real science.
The fact is that there are huge numbers of people watching porn. It's always been the way, whether it's HD internet sites, wobbly VHS tapes, or voyeurism (as in Greek, Roman and Victorian times).Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
There are silent movies from the late 19th and early 20th centuries that are as explicit as things that we can see today.
The Government want to monitor it, and now they can.
I hadn't even got started on the sinister implications yet :hehe: the thing is though you don't have to watch porn online, you could have a huge collection of dvds if you wanted, putting your details in will be the price you have to pay if you want a constant supply of new films.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
As for the "real science" dig, are you saying sites like TED should not be trusted?
Did your example have to include midget porn? :hehe:
I also wonder if 'the state' would like to have 'a little something or more' on everyone.
For any occasion when the state might find that information 'handy'.
Not sure if serious? :hehe: It's nice to see people not trusting the state, seeing Kris say things like "sinister implications" gives me hope. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper
Oops, I had meant to infer that would be a bad notion, not a suggestion!
Sorry for the example, I was trying to think of some fetish that, whilst legal, could be construed as depraved in a character assassination (say of an opposition politician).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
I know that, even allowing for the use of VPNs, the State has access to a lot of data about each of us. Isn't it strange that certain elements of a suspect's character are leaked to the press in high profile cases? It's an easy win - a person suspected of crimes found to have an "unhealthy" diet of watching pornographic materials, suddenly the trial is about that rather than the crime itself.
My view is that, with cutbacks etc, things like this need a helping hand. And, what better way than getting the public to supply the information for you? This has three purposes:-
1) It protects the vulnerable from such material. However, there are more effective tools.
2) It helps to monitor the nation's habits. How often, what do they watch
3) It curtails such habits - people forced to self police what they do online. This opens a debate (and it's a strawman in this argument) about whether the collective we watch too much pornography. Is it harmful? Does it cause more sex crimes? These are legitimate arguments to have, but they are not the right arguments because the Government claim they are acting for reason 1) alone.
Of course, as such material becomes more readily available, so too does it become more viewed, Twenty years ago, you would generally have to buy such material in person - a bit off putting. This acts in a similar way, but with a background of vast data harvesting that now invades our privacies.
And, this is the point. How often have public figures lost their jobs over completely legal activities that the majority of us openly say is immoral whilst, privately, may find the same activities equally stimulating?
Further, with the Government's habit of losing data, how long before we see people being blackmailed or sacked because details of their private activities are now public?
Do we need to protect the vulnerable from this material? Yes - we really do. Will this protect them? No, because people will return to older methods and kids will always get their hands on such material regardless of its form.
Used correctly, the internet could actually be the tool for protecting the vulnerable. This is just a clumsy solution.
I agree with all of that, I'm the last person that's needs convincing on the dangers of things like this, if you look back at my posts over the years you will find that any changes like this that I have complained about have been the same sort of 3 point scenarios, there is always a good selling point like point 1 but there are always points 2 and 3 that don't get mentioned, I always point out the bad sides because people should know about them imo but I get told I'm paranoid. :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Sometimes we are paranoid. This latest move comes hot on the heels of the snooper charter, and let's not forget about facial recognition at games. Data collection may have started off with wholesome intent, but it is now the itch that always needs scratching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
It's worldwide too, people having electronic devices swiped at passport control and some IT experts recommend traveling without phones, laptops and tablets. It only takes one abuse of power to make these invasive and inappropriate techniques abusive.
Don't forget X-Ray machines looking at your wood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Speak for yourself :hehe: If I make a fuss about something I usually have a good reason, not because it might affect me, but because they are just wrong imo, things like the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre have a scary amount of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris