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the other bob wilson
A couple of months ago, people were saying we only had Jamie Collins who could play left back, but with Pagan and Tom Davies to come back, it's going to be the position where, maybe, we have the most depth.
Not seen enough of Jac Thomas to comment on him really, but I was not surprised at the time when it was Beecher who got some game time in the League Cup tie at blackburn rather than Giles, who was also on the bench for that game. We were losing at the time and, from what I've seen, although Giles is very good from dead ball situations, Beecher is the better of the two when it comes to the attacking side of things - the injury which has kept him out for so much of this season has set him back a bit, but he's someone who's always impressed me.
Giles strikes me as the better defender of the two and it might be significant that he's been used in a back three at times by the under 21s , with natural left sided centre backs seemingly being like gold dust in the modern game, I can see him moving across to play there if he grows to be tall enough - that would solve the problem of which one of the two to play if they both turn out to be good enough.
Beecher is someone who could easily play as an inverted, forward thinking full back, but that might mean that we'd see less of his excellent crossing ability which I think of as the most impressive e part of his game currently. Talking of inverted full backs, I was so impressed yesterday with Kpakio on the right, he's a decent size already and looked a natural for the role whereby full backs are expected to spend more time in the opposition half than their own.
I'd agree with all of that. Although, as we have discussed before, I think that Beecher is more of a winger than a full back. When he came on for the 1st team it was as a left wing back. Luey Giles on the other hand plays LCB when we revert to 3 at the back.
I caught up with the match last night. I, too, was impressed with Kpakio. He has really developed this season, particularly physically. He and Spiers are an excellent pair of young right backs and I presume the current Wales U16 incumbent, Noah Williams, will sign on for next season. I think he's from Penarth.
It will be interesting if Tom Davies is offered a new contract. He is a very cultured footballer (as you would expect from a converted midfielder) and a good athlete, but needed to improve his defence. I like Joel Bagan, but Davies has always struck me as a better prospect. Didn't Bulut comment, preseason, about the coaching team being surprised how good he was.
So a wealth of young talent at left back, but do we think JC is good enough to be a 1st choice full back in a promotion winning team? Regrettably not, so I can see the club signing another. Managers rarely look beyond next season, which is one of modern football's worst qualities and why, for us, despite the improvement, on the pitch the failure this season has been that there has been no investment into the longer term. It has been about polishing Bulut's CV and proving Dalman right over Tan rather than a long term strategy.
A club that was in our position at the end of last season should have had a three year plan. But given that we were relegation favourites and under a transfer embargo maybe one season of a hard, pragmatic manager like Bulut was a wise choice.
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Highlights from yesterday's 5-1 win for the under-21s here. Shame they don't show all the build-up to the fifth but a good package all the same. If you're a friend or relative of Luke Armstrong just wind through the first minute and a half.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3
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Loramski
Highlights from yesterday's 5-1 win for the under-21s here. Shame they don't show all the build-up to the fifth but a good package all the same. If you're a friend or relative of Luke Armstrong just wind through the first minute and a half.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3
Thanks for posting that.
Very impressive win. Something exciting to look forward too.
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According to WOL Darren Davies, the guy brought in to help academy players break through to the first team, left the club in February after just 5 months in the role.
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According to WOL Darren Davies, the guy brought in to help academy players break through to the first team, left the club in February after just 5 months in the role.
Didn’t know he’d been appointed in the first place :facepalm: - doesn’t sound very encouraging does it.
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the other bob wilson
Didn’t know he’d been appointed in the first place :facepalm: - doesn’t sound very encouraging does it.
We can see now, what he should have done was injure a dozen established first team players.
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Undercoverinwurzelland
We can see now, what he should have done was injure a dozen established first team players.
Ex Swansea. Agent Davies!
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Undercoverinwurzelland
We can see now, what he should have done was injure a dozen established first team players.
Ex Swansea. Agent Davies!
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U21 | The young <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bluebirds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blueb irds</a> earn a hard-fought point away from home against the Sky Blues, and are now unbeaten in five PDL matches! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityA sOne</a> <a href="https://t.co/u8BgdiUZMn">pic.twitter.com/u8BgdiUZMn</a></p>— Cardiff City Academy (@CF11Academy) <a href="https://twitter.com/CF11Academy/status/1785321458924716239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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MOZZER2
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U21 | The young <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bluebirds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blueb irds</a> earn a hard-fought point away from home against the Sky Blues, and are now unbeaten in five PDL matches! ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityA sOne</a> <a href="https://t.co/u8BgdiUZMn">pic.twitter.com/u8BgdiUZMn</a></p>— Cardiff City Academy (@CF11Academy) <a href="https://twitter.com/CF11Academy/status/1785321458924716239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
No Nyakuhwa in the squad today. Hopefully he's going to be involved on Saturday.
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I see Giles played today.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U18 | <br><br> <a href="https://twitter.com/MillwallAcademy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MillwallAcad emy</a> <br> 01/05/2024<br>⏰ 1.30pm KO<br> PDL<br> The Den<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityA sOne</a> <a href="https://t.co/tDwVD3GTsa">pic.twitter.com/tDwVD3GTsa</a></p>— Cardiff City Academy (@CF11Academy) <a href="https://twitter.com/CF11Academy/status/1785596599609008631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Wales under 15s, featuring one City player in the starting line up, are currently 5-1 up against the Czech Republic.
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the other bob wilson
Wales under 15s, featuring one City player in the starting line up, are currently 5-1 up against the Czech Republic.
Does this mean our other eligible u/15s were pulled out for the Rotherham trip?:hehe:
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U18 | ����������������<br><br>�� <a href="https://twitter.com/MillwallAcademy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MillwallAcad emy</a> <br>�� 01/05/2024<br>⏰ 1.30pm KO<br>�� PDL<br>�� The Den<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityAsOne </a> <a href="https://t.co/tDwVD3GTsa">pic.twitter.com/tDwVD3GTsa</a></p>— Cardiff City Academy (@CF11Academy) <a href="https://twitter.com/CF11Academy/status/1785596599609008631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Millwall leading 5-4 (88 mins).
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3 more goals for Millwall in injury time. FT 8-4!!!
We'd come back from 3-1 and 4-2 to draw level through 4 Mannie Barton goals. Imagine scoring 4 but being on the wrong end of an 8-4 defeat!
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Finished 8-4 to Millwall after getting back to 4-4 in the 85th minute. Only have the twitter feed to go on so not sure what happened but that's a rather alarming collapse. Big lesson to learn.
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the other bob wilson
I see Giles played today.
At left back with Beecher ahead of him by the look of the highlights. Nice first goal here, good bit of positive play from Semenyo to set it all in motion. Great bit of wing play from Wigley to set up the second.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3
You may have seen this already but it's an interview with Darren Purse (and Tanatswa Nyakhuwa. Purse is the one with the London accent for anyone who's unsure). He says that Bulut does attend the u-21 games which is something you wondered about earlier in the thread.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...9-448cbd09a9e5
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Loramski
At left back with Beecher ahead of him by the look of the highlights. Nice first goal here, good bit of positive play from Semenyo to set it all in motion. Great bit of wing play from Wigley to set up the second.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3
You may have seen this already but it's an interview with Darren Purse (and Tanatswa Nyakhuwa. Purse is the one with the London accent for anyone who's unsure). He says that Bulut does attend the u-21 games which is something you wondered about earlier in the thread.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...9-448cbd09a9e5
Wonder why Nyakhuwa was missing for the u21s and u18s this week, outside chance of being in the squad on Saturday perhaps?
Could well have been a late injury mind which saw Beecher moved forward
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City123
Wonder why Nyakhuwa was missing for the u21s and u18s this week, outside chance of being in the squad on Saturday perhaps?
Could well have been a late injury mind which saw Beecher moved forward
I mentioned yesterday about Nyakhuwa. He could be ill or taken a knock in training, of course, but I'd like to think he's going to get a run-out on Saturday. I've seen him twice in the last fortnight. Seems like more of a winger but both times he's started as the striker even though there was an alternative so it'll be interesting to see where Bulut uses him if he plays. He played as a winger in the FA Youth Cup game with Fulham before Xmas and was a handful before coming inside to play up the middle, did the reverse in the u-21 game last week. Seems comfortable with either position.
I've been impressed with him so far. He was quite isolated in the Academy game but he stuck to his task and he was more physical than I expected in the u-21 game. He nicked a goal off Twose there but he came across as a good team player overall, didn't overdo the solo stuff and worked hard throughout. It's a million miles from Championship football, I know, but there's some promise there.
AdrianAlston has talked about Beecher being more of a left winger than a full back, we'll see. With Giles, Beecher and Jac Thomas all coming through as left backs it's giving the club something to think about at that level.
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Loramski
I mentioned yesterday about Nyakhuwa. He could be ill or taken a knock in training, of course, but I'd like to think he's going to get a run-out on Saturday. I've seen him twice in the last fortnight. Seems like more of a winger but both times he's started as the striker even though there was an alternative so it'll be interesting to see where Bulut uses him if he plays. He played as a winger in the FA Youth Cup game with Fulham before Xmas and was a handful before coming inside to play up the middle, did the reverse in the u-21 game last week. Seems comfortable with either position.
I've been impressed with him so far. He was quite isolated in the Academy game but he stuck to his task and he was more physical than I expected in the u-21 game. He nicked a goal off Twose there but he came across as a good team player overall, didn't overdo the solo stuff and worked hard throughout. It's a million miles from Championship football, I know, but there's some promise there.
AdrianAlston has talked about Beecher being more of a left winger than a full back, we'll see. With Giles, Beecher and Jac Thomas all coming through as left backs it's giving the club something to think about at that level.
All left footed players seem to start off with by being stuck at left back and then move forward or centrally if they prove the talent to justify it.
What did Jamie Carragher say about Right Backs; 'They are all failed wingers or centre halves, nobody grows up dreaming of becoming Gary Neville'.
Beechers best work is done in the opposition half, but he's a tough little bugger as well so could do a job in defence. You also missed off Tom Davies - a very cultured, intelligent footballer.
Nyakhuwa has a real chance. The epitome of a modern attacker and could play anywhere across the front three. Has pace, physique and a good work ethic. I hope he gets his chance on the weekend.
An argument for not spending budget on Karlan Grant for next season is that in a Bulut system, we have Isaak Davies, Ashford and Nyakhuwa all vying for that position. Together can they cover it as adequately or better than Grant has done this season? I think so, but expect some unheard of South-Eastern European to be signed instead.
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AdrianAlston
All left footed players seem to start off with by being stuck at left back and then move forward or centrally if they prove the talent to justify it.
What did Jamie Carragher say about Right Backs; 'They are all failed wingers or centre halves, nobody grows up dreaming of becoming Gary Neville'.
Beechers best work is done in the opposition half, but he's a tough little bugger as well so could do a job in defence. You also missed off Tom Davies - a very cultured, intelligent footballer.
Nyakhuwa has a real chance. The epitome of a modern attacker and could play anywhere across the front three. Has pace, physique and a good work ethic. I hope he gets his chance on the weekend.
An argument for not spending budget on Karlan Grant for next season is that in a Bulut system, we have Isaak Davies, Ashford and Nyakhuwa all vying for that position. Together can they cover it as adequately or better than Grant has done this season? I think so, but expect some unheard of South-Eastern European to be signed instead.
I hadn't forgotten Tom Davies (or Bagan) but with his contract up soon (as far as I'm aware) and with him unable to get a kick at Kilmarnock recently, it feels like the writing is on the wall for him here. We'll see. The three I mentioned are around 17-18, I'm not sure how the club will develop all of them but I wouldn't like to be the one making that call.
I'd love to see Ashford, Nyakuhwa etc break through next season, of course, but there's a long way to go yet. Morison was tempted by Eli King but sent him out on loan for a season to Crewe in League 2 instead. He'd fallen out of the picture there by Xmas. I think it's wrong to assume that throwing youngsters into a Championship side will automatically benefit both them and the team. I don't think it works like that at all.
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Free tickets available for the u15 Floodlit Cup Final v Burton at the CCS - 6pm on 9th May.
https://forms.office.com/pages/respo...&origin=QRCode
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I will be travelling back from Pembroke that day, can anyone advise on parking please?
Can anyone get tickets?
If so, do they check against some sort of list they compile?
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I will be travelling back from Pembroke that day, can anyone advise on parking please?
Can anyone get tickets?
If so, do they check against some sort of list they compile?
You should be able to use the stadium car park.