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CardiffIrish2
Well one person has pleaded guilty to a crime and another found guilty
Both connected to DT.
That’s today’s truth for sure ��
What if people connected to Hillary and Obama are found guilty? What if Mueller is exposed for some wrongdoing in his evidence gathering? How were the illegal wiretaps used to collect information? Still lots of variables in play, so it's too soon to call IMO. I'm still waiting for the hammer blow that decides it one way or the other. There is a lot at stake here, and we are going to see desperate measures coming from all directions.
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Wales-Bales
What if people connected to Hillary and Obama are found guilty? What if Mueller is exposed for some wrongdoing in his evidence gathering? How were the illegal wiretaps used to collect information? Still lots of variables in play, so it's too soon to call IMO.
Well that’s a lot of what ifs isn’t it?
Where’s the investigations for those things then? Are anyone connected to Hilary and Obama in the dock?
Or is this more wishful thinking on your part?
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anyone who thinks this is the end of the Trump Presidency, remember one thing. He faces prosecution if he leaves the Presidency. He will now never leave the Presidency.</p>— Armando Iannucci (@Aiannucci) <a href="https://twitter.com/Aiannucci/status/1032249646008225792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I think this is correct, and further to that every action trump does from now on (if it wasn't already the case) will have the sole purpose of keeping him as president. This is not good for the rest of the world.
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
Well that’s a lot of what ifs isn’t it?
Where’s the investigations for those things then? Are anyone connected to Hilary and Obama in the dock?
Or is this more wishful thinking on your part?
It's more distraction and deflection. Really, put him on ignore. He contributes nothing worthwhile.
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Don't know if Donald does humour/irony, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If anyone is looking for a good lawyer, I would strongly suggest that you don’t retain the services of Michael Cohen!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032247043992023040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Re: The Donald Trump thread
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
Well that’s a lot of what ifs isn’t it?
Where’s the investigations for those things then? Are anyone connected to Hilary and Obama in the dock?
Or is this more wishful thinking on your part?
I dunno about you, but I'm waiting for the fat lady to make an appearance. If this was Mueller's best hand (coordinated Manafort & Cohen announcments), I'd be a bit worried about what the other side has got!
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Wales-Bales
I dunno about you, but I'm waiting for the fat lady to make an appearance. If this was Mueller's best hand (coordinated Manafort & Cohen announcments), I'd be a bit worried about what the other side has got!
Another "if" :facepalm:
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lardy
It's more distraction and deflection. Really, put him on ignore. He contributes nothing worthwhile.
Says the fanatical Trump Russia Collusion Delusion guy!!! :hehe: :biggrin: :hehe:
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Heisenberg
Another "if" :facepalm:
Has he got anything else?
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lardy
I think this is correct, and further to that every action trump does from now on (if it wasn't already the case) will have the sole purpose of keeping him as president. This is not good for the rest of the world.
I actually agree with this, but only if there is no fruit of the poison tree lurking beneath the surface!
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Wales-Bales
Has he got anything else?
You'll have to ask him, mate :biggrin:
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Heisenberg
You'll have to ask him, mate :biggrin:
That's the thing innit, this is a drama to rival all dramas, real or imagined :biggrin:
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Wales-Bales
What if people connected to Hillary and Obama are found guilty? What if Mueller is exposed for some wrongdoing in his evidence gathering? How were the illegal wiretaps used to collect information? Still lots of variables in play, so it's too soon to call IMO. I'm still waiting for the hammer blow that decides it one way or the other. There is a lot at stake here, and we are going to see desperate measures coming from all directions.
There was a n alleged case about election overspend with Obama wasn't there ,but he unknowingly new about it .
And Hilary well ,she's the reason why Trump is in power, she's squeaky clean.
I don't think any of this will stick to Trump .
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I actually agree with this, but only if there is no fruit of the poison tree lurking beneath the surface!
I wonder if a quick conflict might ease the pressure on Trump ?
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No campaign violation according Law Professor and former FEC chairman Bradley Smith in the video above.
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?
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Wales-Bales
So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?
Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?
It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.
In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.
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life on mars
Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?
It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.
In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.
'Cohen pleaded guilty to two counts of making contributions in excess of $25,000 for the purpose of influencing a federal election.
Trump's former lawyer told a federal court on Tuesday that he made two payments, one for $150,000 in the summer of 2016 and another in Oct. 2016 of $130,000, both at the direction of Trump. The payments were to former Playboy model Karen McDougal and adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, both of whom have claimed to have had affairs with Trump. The president has denied those allegations.
Cohen also filed invoices to the Trump Organization to be reimbursed for those payments, masking them as services rendered for 2017 even though he did not provide legal services to the president that year.
The crimes carry a maximum sentence of 65 years, but sentencing guidelines recommend 46-63 months of prison time'
I've highlighted the key points for you. The crime would have apparently been to a lesser degree if they had actually used campaign funds. Trump has now categorically said, on camera, that campaign funds were not used, possibly incriminating himself even further.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...lations-791377
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Heisenberg
'Cohen pleaded guilty to two counts of making contributions in excess of $25,000
for the purpose of influencing a federal election.
Trump's former lawyer told a federal court on Tuesday that he made two payments, one for $150,000 in the summer of 2016 and another in Oct. 2016 of $130,000,
both at the direction of Trump. The payments were to former Playboy model Karen McDougal and adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, both of whom have claimed to have had affairs with Trump. The president has denied those allegations.
Cohen also filed invoices to the Trump Organization to be reimbursed for those payments,
masking them as services rendered for 2017 even though he did not provide legal services to the president that year.
The crimes carry a maximum sentence of 65 years, but sentencing guidelines recommend 46-63 months of prison time'
I've highlighted the key points for you. The crime would have apparently been to a lesser degree if they had actually used campaign funds. Trump has now categorically said, on camera, that campaign funds were not used, possibly incriminating himself even further.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...lations-791377
So Trump is going to jail for 65 years? Hillary had better dust off her cowboy boots then :biggrin:
BTW why did Dershowitz say it is perfectly normal to payoff people to avoid damaging publicity, in this case to his wife and family?
Anyway, the proof of the pudding will be found in a Trump prosecution, if and when it occurs.
*post bookmarked
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
So Trump is going to jail for 65 years? Hillary had better dust off her cowboy boots then :biggrin:
BTW why did Dershowitz say it is perfectly normal to payoff people to avoid damaging publicity, in this case to his wife and family?
Anyway, the proof of the pudding will be found in a Trump prosecution, if and when it occurs.
*post bookmarked
Trust you to find the part of the post where you can exaggerate for effect. Nobody is suggesting that, are they?
Once again, why are you asking me why somebody said something? I'd hazard a guess that the author of a book titled 'The Case Against Impeaching Trump!' may have a horse in the race though... Who knows?
It's all very exciting though :biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Nothing sticks,nothing that proves anything was wrongly done,its not unlawful to pay for the silences or allegations of someone in the USA is it ?
It has to be proved I guess that actual election campaign monies were used.
In terms of Russia , why hasn't that be found and exposed yet ,is it actually there ?.
These cases were never about Russia.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
So did Mueller fire his cannon or his pea-shooter? What do you reckon?
I haven’t accused Trump of collusion. That’s down to the investigation that’s being carried out which is still ongoing. What this investigation is showing is that a number of people have committed criminal acts which they deserve to be punished for.
What I find quite shameful is that a President of the USA is criticising his own judicial system and expressing sympathy for a convicted criminal.
Not right surely?
https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/sta...56443985084417
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Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control
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Rogersblue
Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control
:hehe: Brilliant
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Rogersblue
Judicial system in USA is corupt and he's exposing it, along with the hypocrisy of the left and their media propaganda that they control
Thanks for that 😂😂😂
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Oops, missed out, too the sheep bit