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Here's something Trump may be able to say he actually achieved during his presidency.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40692709
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the other bob wilson
Have to wonder why is he even bringing the subject up on Social Media.
It only serves to suggest that he is aware of guilty acts .
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Sgt. Pepper
Have to wonder why is he even bringing the subject up on Social Media.
It only serves to suggest that he is aware of guilty acts .
By calling the reports leaks, he is also inadvertently confirming they are true.
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Wales-Bales
* The Post cited an unnamed US official
** A (unnamed) justice department spokeswoman told the paper: “Obviously I cannot comment on the reliability of what anonymous sources describe in a wholly uncorroborated intelligence intercept that the Washington Post has not seen and that has not been provided to me.”
:hehe:
It now seems as if Trump believes the story.
He has tweeted about it referring to this as a "leak" . If he thought that the whole thing was bull, surely that is the angle that he would take?
With Scarramuccis appointment, it looks like the Don is maybe panicking and heading fully off-piste, as apparently this act is again wholly at odds with the advice of chief strategist Bannon.
It is increasingly hard to feel that Donald has any intention, inclination, nor ability to ' drain the swamp', nor right wrongs, nor sort out the dark state.
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Trump tweeting about pardons, his lawyer on telly talking about pardons.
The actions of an innocent man :hehe:
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lardy
Trump tweeting about pardons, his lawyer on telly talking about pardons.
The actions of an innocent man :hehe:
Whether he is innocent or not he could win world records in unbelievably crass behaviour.
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It's not gone well for him.
That may be his fault, it may be that he is beating his head against an existing corrupt system, or likely a bit - or a lot - of both.
My spidey-sense says that he has grown rapidly tired of not being thought of as the the greatest ever human being and actually wants out now, and will try to extricate himself as best as he might. Ideally without modelling handcuffs for the world 'fake-news' media.
It's all gonna happen. Any time now. Etc etc.
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Donnie is not a happy chappie today.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
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Wales-Bales
He is shitting his pants.
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lardy
He is shitting his pants.
He's probably not the only one ...
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/ex...it-aides-home/
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Wales-Bales
The president vs an it administrator. Who's got more to lose? :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
"An additional source in Congress with direct knowledge of the case, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the probe .."
"The Marine spoke on condition of anonymity because of concerns for his wife’s naval career, saying she doesn’t want to be associated with a national security incident"
I'll spare you your customary grinning smiley :thumbup:
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Sgt. Pepper
"An additional source in Congress with direct knowledge of the case, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the probe .."
"The Marine spoke on condition of anonymity because of concerns for his wife’s naval career, saying she doesn’t want to be associated with a national security incident"
I'll spare you your customary grinning smiley :thumbup:
:hehe:
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lardy
He is shitting his pants.
Great great pants.
Aaaahnd the greatest shit ever shat by any President.
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lardy
The president vs an it administrator. Who's got more to lose? :hehe:
She is the former chairperson for the Democratic National Committee, so basically the cog that could bring them all down.
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Sgt. Pepper
"An additional source in Congress with direct knowledge of the case, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the probe .."
"The Marine spoke on condition of anonymity because of concerns for his wife’s naval career, saying she doesn’t want to be associated with a national security incident"
I'll spare you your customary grinning smiley :thumbup:
All of this information was on the internet ages ago, I could even tell you the name of the marine and the address of the rental house :biggrin:
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Wales-Bales
Firing out the tweets isn't he? Wonder if he's trying to distract everyone.
In unrelated news, his son in law has been giving his testimony to the Senate today about the Russian witch hunt hoax. Or the cog that could bring them all down, depending on your point of view. I'm on the fence.
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lardy
And you are referencing David Brock's smear organisation, nice one :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
And you are referencing David Brock's smear organisation, nice one :hehe:
Call it a draw and disregard both then :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Firing out the tweets isn't he? Wonder if he's trying to distract everyone.
In unrelated news, his son in law has been giving his testimony to the Senate today about the Russian witch hunt hoax. Or the cog that could bring them all down, depending on your point of view. I'm on the fence.
Like I said there is only going to be one winner here, so enjoy the view from the fence next to me :thumbup:
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lardy
Call it a draw and disregard both then :thumbup:
The Daily Caller isn't the original source of that story, I've known about it since Feb or March, I've even posted about it on here.
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Wales-Bales
All of this information was on the internet ages ago, I could even tell you the name of the marine and the address of the rental house :biggrin:
Doubtless, and I'm sure you could .
That story has been waiting to break for some time.
It will be interesting to see what comes of it now that it is.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Firing out the tweets isn't he? Wonder if he's trying to distract everyone.
In unrelated news, his son in law has been giving his testimony to the Senate today about the Russian witch hunt hoax. Or the cog that could bring them all down, depending on your point of view. I'm on the fence.
I'm wondering if a significant part in the machine could be (Russian?) money laundering / Real estate scams that has got some key folks tangled up in 'Kompromat' - possibly, and thus maybe forcing them to bend in directions they may not have voluntarily undertaken.
All maybe's. Just pondering out loud.
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Sgt. Pepper
Doubtless, and I'm sure you could .
That story has been waiting to break for some time.
It will be interesting to see what comes of it now that it is.
Maybe nothing will come of it, the establishment are masters of making things disappear, and that's where all the blackmail files come in handy. As the Donald said himself in a tweet this morning "Drain the Swamp should be changed to Drain the Sewer - it's actually much worse than anyone ever thought".
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Originally Posted by
Sgt. Pepper
I'm wondering if a significant part in the machine could be (Russian?) money laundering / Real estate scams that has got some key folks tangled up in 'Kompromat' - possibly, and thus maybe forcing them to bend in directions they may not have voluntarily undertaken.
All maybe's. Just pondering out loud.
It's certainly hard to believe that Jared would go to a meeting with Russians at that time (along with two other high ranking Trump Team members) without any idea what it was about as he has claimed. There's a lot going on that they don't want to come out. But it will - Jr is a very weak link.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Maybe nothing will come of it, the establishment are masters of making things disappear, and that's where all the blackmail files come in handy. As the Donald said himself in a tweet this morning "Drain the Swamp should be changed to Drain the Sewer - it's actually much worse than anyone ever thought".
And this is where I get frustrated.
I'd like to see the swamp/sewer drained. Or at least cleaned.
I just don't think that 'they' backed the best Trojan Horse in Don.
He's already alienated himself from those around him that had the impetus and the ability, as well as his original aides who got him where he is.
He now looks like an increasingly renegade blustering buffoon, with something to hide.
maybe that's the game, maybe that's the truth.
I'm still leaning more towards the other theory - that Trump is a plant - a ploy - a stooge - whether he knows it or not, to divide American society and Establishment to the point that it is a weak porridge of malcontent and dysfunction.
Someone(s) would like that...
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lardy
It's certainly hard to believe that Jared would go to a meeting with Russians at that time (along with two other high ranking Trump Team members) without any idea what it was about as he has claimed. There's a lot going on that they don't want to come out. But it will - Jr is a very weak link.
Surely so.
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Originally Posted by
Sgt. Pepper
I'm wondering if a significant part in the machine could be (Russian?) money laundering / Real estate scams that has got some key folks tangled up in 'Kompromat' - possibly, and thus maybe forcing them to bend in directions they may not have voluntarily undertaken.
All maybe's. Just pondering out loud.
This guy is very entertaining if you like a good yarn, but I can't quite work out how much of what he says is actually true or not. However he was right on the money regarding the IT guy who had the stolen government computers stashed in a house of his, and he even interviewed the ex-marine who was renting that property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROGfKX3_3g
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Sgt. Pepper
And this is where I get frustrated.
I'd like to see the swamp/sewer drained. Or at least cleaned.
I just don't think that 'they' backed the best Trojan Horse in Don.
He's already alienated himself from those around him that had the impetus and the ability, as well as his original aides who got him where he is.
He now looks like an increasingly renegade blustering buffoon, with something to hide.
maybe that's the game, maybe that's the truth.
I'm still leaning more towards the other theory - that Trump is a plant - a ploy - a stooge - whether he knows it or not, to divide American society and Establishment to the point that it is a weak porridge of malcontent and dysfunction.
Someone(s) would like that...
You could be right, and that is exactly why I am still sitting on the fence. Trump hasn't really played his hand yet, but we will know soon enough after he makes his first proper move. Everybody is just jockeying for position at the moment, but all the pieces are in position for one of the biggest political battles we are ever likely to witness. I think it's going to get ugly.
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Wales-Bales
You could be right, and that is exactly why I am still sitting on the fence. Trump hasn't really played his hand yet, but we will know soon enough after he makes his first proper move. Everybody is just jockeying for position at the moment, but all the pieces are in position for one of the biggest political battles we are ever likely to witness. I think it's going to get ugly.
Unfortunately for trump fans, I think fake news, witch hunt, deny everything is his hand.
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lardy
Unfortunately for trump fans, I think fake news, witch hunt, deny everything is his hand.
I thought you were with me on the fence!
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Wales-Bales
This guy is very entertaining if you like a good yarn, but I can't quite work out how much of what he says is actually true or not. However he was right on the money regarding the IT guy who had the stolen government computers stashed in a house of his, and he even interviewed the ex-marine who was renting that property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROGfKX3_3g
It's like some kind of stream of consciousness chanting. No doubt some of it factual.
Mainly about the previous Administration.
This thread is about the great Donaldinho.
He shoots, he misses, he .. wins!
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Sgt. Pepper
It's like some kind of stream of consciousness chanting. No doubt some of it factual.
Mainly about the previous Administration.
This thread is about the great Donaldinho.
He shoots, he misses, he .. wins!
It's all about the deep state, who are in charge no matter who becomes president. In the past is worked great with Reagan, Bush x2, B. Clinton & Obama, but unfortunately Hillary never made it across the finish line
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Wales-Bales
It's all about the deep state, who are in charge no matter who becomes president. In the past is worked great with Reagan, Bush x2, B. Clinton & Obama, but unfortunately Hillary never made it across the finish line
I get the idea.
And Hilary didn't get over the finish line because ...?
I doubt Donald will - or can - break 'the deep state'.
Is that really his agenda - now or before?
'Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose'.
In the meantime we can all 'enjoy' the spectacle of a baboon on the rampage.
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Wales-Bales
I thought you were with me on the fence!
on the fence :hehe: do you really believe you are impartial, comedy gold, keep it up :thumbup:
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-intelligence
This is a valid question.
if Kushners 'defence' is 'utter ignorance of .. err everything to do with what he .. does' - why, how is he Trumps' numero-uno - the WH 'top aide'?
Eh?!
I can understand that Don might needed people he can trust around him.
But the apparent naivety and associated peril at this level is mind-blowing. If it is indeed naivety.
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Packerman
on the fence :hehe: do you really believe you are impartial, comedy gold, keep it up :thumbup:
Of course I'm on the fence, I'm merely an observer like everybody else :biggrin: You can try to make a case both ways, but the Russian angle just doesn't add up, whereas there is plenty of meat on the bone regarding the Democrats and past Republicans. Actually I am waiting for Trump to be exposed as a fraud, or to be in on it as well. You know that Hegelian thing Mrs R is always on about.
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Sgt. Pepper
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-intelligence
This is a valid question.
if Kushners 'defence' is 'utter ignorance of .. err everything to do with what he .. does' - why, how is he Trumps' numero-uno - the WH 'top aide'?
Eh?!
I can understand that Don might needed people he can trust around him.
But the apparent naivety and associated peril at this level is mind-blowing. If it is indeed naivety.
Yes, too many inexperienced family members around him, but as you say he trusts them.
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It's hard to read transcripts of trump's speeches and think anything other than 'this guy is mental'. Worth following the links for the bit where he starts trashing one of his business rivals for seemingly no reason.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...couts-jamboree