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Maybe lardy will chip in, he seems to know things that I don't.
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Wales-Bales
I am not a follower, I assess information from all sources, hence the accuracy of my statements.
lardy is a good example of a follower, as he is constantly wrong about most things. This is because he takes the MSM position on everything.
As you're so desperate for me to chip in, I shall. Fox has updated the story that got you excited - '...admits faking the message in her yearbook!'
"An update to this story reflects that Beverly Young Nelson admits writing what ABC News characterized as 'notes' beneath what she says is Roy Moore's signature, and that the only notes below the signature are the date and location.
"Furthermore, the headline on [the] story now specifies that Nelson admits to writing part of the inscription herself, rather than forging part of it."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...candidate.html
The accuracy of your statements is notable, but not in the way you think...
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I see Trump has already pronounced on the fakery and Judge Roy's innocence, presumably using his well honed forensic skills of looking at Fox, Breitbart......and twitter feeds to determine the truth.
"Pussy pillager praises probable paedophile" has a ring to it. The amoral pair deserve each other.
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lardy
As you're so desperate for me to chip in, I shall. Fox has updated the story that got you excited - '...admits faking the message in her yearbook!'
"An update to this story reflects that Beverly Young Nelson admits writing what ABC News characterized as 'notes' beneath what she says is Roy Moore's signature, and that the only notes below the signature are the date and location.
"Furthermore, the headline on [the] story now specifies that Nelson admits to writing part of the inscription herself, rather than forging part of it."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...candidate.html
The accuracy of your statements is notable, but not in the way you think...
So she just purjured herself after initially stating that Moore wrote the entire yearbook entry.
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Wales-Bales
So she just purjured herself after initially stating that Moore wrote the entire yearbook entry.
When did she make a misrepresentation or untruth under oath (perjury)?
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cyril evans awaydays
When did she make a misrepresentation or untruth under oath (perjury)?
Does it matter? She is a liar and this case will never get to court :wink:
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Wales-Bales
Does it matter? She is a liar and this case will never get to court :wink:
Don't know - what exactly did she lie about?
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cyril evans awaydays
Don't know - what exactly did she lie about?
Roy Moore said "I don't remember going out on dates. I knew her as a friend"
And a few days later: "Let me state once again: I do not know any of these women, did not date any of these women and have not engaged in any sexual misconduct with anyone"
But WalesBales ignores these lies, or purjures if you want to use the wrong word, because Moore is on Team Trump.
However, if Moore loses then Trump will disown him as he did with Luther Strange and we'll not hear another word about it on this board. :hehe'
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cyril evans awaydays
Don't know - what exactly did she lie about?
She previously stated that all of the writing in the yearbook was done by Moore. This explains why they wouldn't hand over the year for forensic examination, because her statement wasn't true.
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Now we've finished dealing with the saga of how much Moore wrote in a yearbook - thanks gluey, you're a star! - how about talking about all the inappropriate relationships he has with teenage girls?
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lardy
Now we've finished dealing with the saga of how much Moore wrote in a yearbook - thanks gluey, you're a star! - how about talking about all the inappropriate relationships he has with teenage girls?
Are they no longer just allegations? Wow, things are moving quickly. He deserves to be punished if this is the new situation, as do all of those in the many cases that are still to come.
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Wales-Bales
Are they no longer just allegations? Wow, things are moving quickly. He deserves to be punished if this is the new situation, as do all of those in the many cases that are still to come.
You will only comment about proof, formal investigation or admittance of guilt? It's going to get very quiet on here if thems your posting rules!!!!
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Wales-Bales
Are they no longer just allegations? Wow, things are moving quickly. He deserves to be punished if this is the new situation, as do all of those in the many cases that are still to come.
Allegations were sufficient for you with Weinstein. But it all depends if they're pro or anti trump, doesn't it?
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lardy
Allegations were sufficient for you with Weinstein. But it all depends if they're pro or anti trump, doesn't it?
Weinstein apologized for his actions, and there is also a paper trail. The only paper trail to Moore was faked, so maybe you can try to dig up something a bit more substantive? Even the manager at the Mall said Moore was never banned.
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Wales-Bales
Weinstein apologized for his actions, and there is also a paper trail. The only paper trail to Moore was faked, so maybe you can try to dig up something a bit more substantive? Even the manager at the Mall said Moore was never banned.
Don't you mean allegedly faked?
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lardy
Don't you mean allegedly faked?
The lady said it herself.
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Wales-Bales
The lady said it herself.
Incorrect.
What do you think about Roy Moore's lies? See post 1900 in case you missed it on this page while you were replying to the other posts.
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Moore and his media and political cronies are pursuing the discredit one bit and that casts doubt on the totality strategy with some success as it will bring along those who want to believe in his innocence.
For what it is worth the NYT article has a shot of the inscription. Clearly two different sets of handwriting. If the lady did the latter who does WB think forged the former?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/u...on-allred.html
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cyril evans awaydays
Moore and his media and political cronies are pursuing the discredit one bit and that casts doubt on the totality strategy with some success as it will bring along those who want to believe in his innocence.
For what it is worth the NYT article has a shot of the inscription. Clearly two different sets of handwriting. If the lady did the latter who does WB think forged the former?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/u...on-allred.html
She changed her story from writing all of it to a part of it, hence her credibility is in question. She made these claims while sitting next to a lawyer who congress want to speak to about this matter.
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Wales-Bales
She changed her story from writing all of it to a part of it, hence her credibility is in question. She made these claims while sitting next to a lawyer who congress want to speak to about this matter.
Nine women have said that Mr. Moore made unwanted advances toward them, or worse, when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s, and in trying to discredit them, the Moore campaign has focused on challenging the veracity of Ms. Nelson and the yearbook inscription. The apparent difference in the lettering of the inscription has spawned weeks of amateur analyses and conspiracy theories, and has led Mr. Moore to repeatedly suggest the yearbook was a fake.
Reasonable summary of where we are and views previously and currently expressed in this thread I thought!
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Wales-Bales
She changed her story from writing all of it to a part of it, hence her credibility is in question. She made these claims while sitting next to a lawyer who congress want to speak to about this matter.
Roy Moore changed his story, hence his credibility is in question. Oh, we're ignoring that aren't we.
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cyril evans awaydays
Nine women have said that Mr. Moore made unwanted advances toward them, or worse, when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s, and in trying to discredit them, the Moore campaign has focused on challenging the veracity of Ms. Nelson and the yearbook inscription. The apparent difference in the lettering of the inscription has spawned weeks of amateur analyses and conspiracy theories, and has led Mr. Moore to repeatedly suggest the yearbook was a fake.
Reasonable summary of where we are and views previously and currently expressed in this thread I thought!
A person who worked at the restaurant during the same time-period said they didn't recall Nelson being a staff member, and I believe somebody from the courthouse who was a regular visitor said he knew Moore but never saw him here. Clearly they need to start a civil court action and put all these witnesses before a judge.
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Wales-Bales
A person who worked at the restaurant during the same time-period said they didn't recall Nelson being a staff member, and I believe somebody from the courthouse who was a regular visitor said he knew Moore but never saw him here. Clearly they need to start a civil court action and put all these witnesses before a judge.
Same question as before. Who do you believe? Moore or the nine women? I'm with the ladies and the Republican Senator for Alabama has cast his vote against Moore and questioned his fitness. It is possible to support Trump's general philosophy whilst still being able to call out despicable morally hypercritical scum like Moore and Weinstein on a case by case basis you know!
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cyril evans awaydays
Same question as before. Who do you believe? Moore or the nine women? I'm with the ladies and the Republican Senator for Alabama has cast his vote against Moore and questioned his fitness. It is possible to support Trump's general philosophy whilst still being able to call out despicable morally hypercritical scum like Moore and Weinstein on a case by case basis you know!
Like I said Weinstein apologized for his behaviour and he left a paper trail, paid out settlements, etc. There are also many legal proceedings that have recently been filed against him.
Regarding Moore, you have the changed story regarding yearbook, and Nelson's stepson and ex-boyfriend spoke out against her. Moore also has witnesses who have refutet many of the allegations, so everybody needs to be rigorously cross examined under oath IMO. Let the courts decide, that is the reason why they exist!
Therefore I am not going to be bullied into declaring a verdict of guilt on someone who I genuinly don't know if they are or not, just to satisfy your feverish hunger to be proven right.
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Vimto
Somewhat bizarre.
What was the most bizarre thing in your opinion?
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Wales-Bales
Like I said Weinstein apologized for his behaviour and he left a paper trail, paid out settlements, etc. There are also many legal proceedings that have recently been filed against him.
Regarding Moore, you have the changed story regarding yearbook, and Nelson's stepson and ex-boyfriend spoke out against her. Moore also has witnesses who have refutet many of the allegations, so everybody needs to be rigorously cross examined under oath IMO. Let the courts decide, that is the reason why they exist!
Therefore I am not going to be bullied into declaring a verdict of guilt on someone who I genuinly don't know if they are or not, just to satisfy your feverish hunger to be proven right.
Bit ad hominem suggesting I have some kind of feverish hunger to be proven right. I believe the people making accusations against Moore and have said so in advance of confirmation in the unlikely event of that ever existing. I have tried to get you to give a wider view beyond the consiparacy theorist analysis of a signature in a yearbook on whether Judge Roy Moore is a good'un or a bad'un but will step back as it seems too difficult and I don't want to bully you!
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Wales-Bales
What was the most bizarre thing in your opinion?
Roy Moore.
How about you?
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cyril evans awaydays
Bit ad hominem suggesting I have some kind of feverish hunger to be proven right. I believe the people making accusations against Moore and have said so in advance of confirmation in the unlikely event of that ever existing. I have tried to get you to give a wider view beyond the consiparacy theorist analysis of a signature in a yearbook on whether Judge Roy Moore is a good'un or a bad'un but will step back as it seems too difficult and I don't want to bully you!
"whilst still being able to call out despicable morally hypercritical scum like Moore and Weinstein on a case by case basis you know!" sounds a bit feverish to me :wink:
I sincerely hope this goes to court and all of the witnesses are put under pressure during a vigourous cross-examination.
Anyway, we still have another 246 cases to look at, so hopefully I will be able to call out a republican or two along the way.