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It is that old conundrum of deciding when to strike to save the most amount of lives.
War with North Korea is inevitable really isn't it?.
NK get more and more powerful by the day. At what point do you nip it in the bud?.
Whatever happens, America will win. That is without doubt. They will obliterate North Korea.
Maybe we will look back in 50 years and laugh about how paranoid we were of that 1 country holding the world to ransom.
Or maybe not. Scary stuff.
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Originally Posted by
LordKenwyne
It is that old conundrum of deciding when to strike to save the most amount of lives.
War with North Korea is inevitable really isn't it?.
NK get more and more powerful by the day. At what point do you nip it in the bud?.
Whatever happens, America will win. That is without doubt. They will obliterate North Korea.
Maybe we will look back in 50 years and laugh about how paranoid we were of that 1 country holding the world to ransom.
Or maybe not. Scary stuff.
i read elsewhere ( from a American ) we should just pull the bandaid and get it over with :thumbup:
as its been discussed, both Russia and China have been pushing as much as they can with Obama just watching, people will say they need to be shown they cannot do what they like
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life on mars
As we are advised that the papers and TV are not to be trusted and we should seek independent sources, I'm keen to be educated, should I fly to Syria and ask them how cuddly Assad is or I could look on the Internet and listen to equally one dimensional and self interested theories that mirrors the alleged opposite agenda that our free democratic press delivers.
It is not a question of who to trust. Don't trust anyone. The right question is who is most likely to be telling the truth. I posted a link to an MIT professor who said the American report about Assad's so-called gas attack could not be true. He supported his case with photos and science. On the other side you have newspaper journalists who say the American report is true because that is what they have been told by their sources. These sources are mainly politicians. No Western journalist has been any near the site because they would be kidnapped by the rebels.
You must agree that the professor is more likely to be telling the truth than the reporters. As long as a journalist can fill a column with something someone will read they are not bothered about whether it is true or not. If you ever read a story about someone you know then you will find that the journalist has usually got half his facts wrong. Some well-known journalists like Johann Hari have got away with making up stories for years. The newspaper owners are not bothered as long as they can find advertisers and readers.
Find out what the experts are saying. You can do a lot of research yourself by searching newspaper libraries. For example, I wanted to know where the "weapons of mass destruction" phrase came from and I found out that its modern use was started by Menachem Begin and then popularized by US and UK journalists with links to Israel. It was a deliberate black propaganda operation by Israel. If a silly old fool like me can find this out with a bit of research then almost anyone on here could do the same.
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Originally Posted by
LordKenwyne
It is that old conundrum of deciding when to strike to save the most amount of lives.
War with North Korea is inevitable really isn't it?.
NK get more and more powerful by the day. At what point do you nip it in the bud?.
Whatever happens, America will win. That is without doubt. They will obliterate North Korea.
Maybe we will look back in 50 years and laugh about how paranoid we were of that 1 country holding the world to ransom.
Or maybe not. Scary stuff.
I don't believe North Korea is the boogeyman that is portrayed. It relies on China for most of its energy needs, food and consumables. Without their support most of their population would have long since died of famine. I'd be less than amazed to learn the country is and has been used for decades as a social experiment by those who want to bring to the whole world that very same brand of extreme totalitarianism. Take a look sometime at the street scenes of weeping mourners lining the streets during the funerals of their last two presidents to gauge how successful they've been at subjugating its population.
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David Vincent
It is not a question of who to trust. Don't trust anyone. The right question is who is most likely to be telling the truth. I posted a link to an MIT professor who said the American report about Assad's so-called gas attack could not be true. He supported his case with photos and science. On the other side you have newspaper journalists who say the American report is true because that is what they have been told by their sources. These sources are mainly politicians. No Western journalist has been any near the site because they would be kidnapped by the rebels.
You must agree that the professor is more likely to be telling the truth than the reporters. As long as a journalist can fill a column with something someone will read they are not bothered about whether it is true or not. If you ever read a story about someone you know then you will find that the journalist has usually got half his facts wrong. Some well-known journalists like Johann Hari have got away with making up stories for years. The newspaper owners are not bothered as long as they can find advertisers and readers.
Find out what the experts are saying. You can do a lot of research yourself by searching newspaper libraries. For example, I wanted to know where the "weapons of mass destruction" phrase came from and I found out that its modern use was started by Menachem Begin and then popularized by US and UK journalists with links to Israel. It was a deliberate black propaganda operation by Israel. If a silly old fool like me can find this out with a bit of research then almost anyone on here could do the same.
I admire your tenacity on the subject, unfortunately I cannot agree with your philopspy .
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Organ Morgan.
I don't believe North Korea is the boogeyman that is portrayed. It relies on China for most of its energy needs, food and consumables. Without their support most of their population would have long since died of famine. I'd be less than amazed to learn the country is and has been used for decades as a social experiment by those who want to bring to the whole world that very same brand of extreme totalitarianism. Take a look sometime at the street scenes of weeping mourners lining the streets during the funerals of their last two presidents to gauge how successful they've been at subjugating its population.
I was thinking about that last night, the only view of North Korea I have has been from our media so I'm not sure if it's correct.
You seen any of the power grid stories? don't like where that's going..
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Mrs Steve R
I was thinking about that last night, the only view of North Korea I have has been from our media so I'm not sure if it's correct.
You seen any of the power grid stories? don't like where that's going..
Which stories are these (assuming this is not a private conversation).
BTW, NK's missile launch failed.
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Kris
Which stories are these (assuming this is not a private conversation).
BTW, NK's missile launch failed.
I heard about it elsewhere but I found a couple of mainstream links on it for you, it's the express and the daily star but you can't have it all :hehe: it will give you an idea of what I'm on about, I'm just wondering why they have not been worried about it before?
"Pentagon scrambles for solution amid fears North Korea could BLOW UP American power grid"
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...d-Donald-Trump
"North Korea capable of 'BLOWING UP' American power grid as US blackout fears loom"
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-Trump-WW3-EMP
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Mrs Steve R
I heard about it elsewhere but I found a couple of mainstream links on it for you, it's the express and the daily star but you can't have it all :hehe: it will give you an idea of what I'm on about, I'm just wondering why they have not been worried about it before?
"Pentagon scrambles for solution amid fears North Korea could BLOW UP American power grid"
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...d-Donald-Trump
"North Korea capable of 'BLOWING UP' American power grid as US blackout fears loom"
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-Trump-WW3-EMP
I saw the Daily Star article (deleting internet history is useless). I assume that, if NK can take out America's power grid, then
A) So could anyone else
B) It's equally likely our national grid is as susceptible
C) I would be more concerned at a terrorist attack (of course ISIS couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery but, you never know)
I would also guess that the American power grid has been this weak for a long time. Considering the numeracy of their enemies, I wonder why no one has hit America where they appear softest. In other words - this is a non story for me but America - expect higher energy bills soon :)
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Originally Posted by
David Vincent
It is not a question of who to trust. Don't trust anyone. The right question is who is most likely to be telling the truth. I posted a link to an MIT professor who said the American report about Assad's so-called gas attack could not be true. He supported his case with photos and science. On the other side you have newspaper journalists who say the American report is true because that is what they have been told by their sources. These sources are mainly politicians. No Western journalist has been any near the site because they would be kidnapped by the rebels.
You must agree that the professor is more likely to be telling the truth than the reporters. As long as a journalist can fill a column with something someone will read they are not bothered about whether it is true or not. If you ever read a story about someone you know then you will find that the journalist has usually got half his facts wrong. Some well-known journalists like Johann Hari have got away with making up stories for years. The newspaper owners are not bothered as long as they can find advertisers and readers.
Find out what the experts are saying. You can do a lot of research yourself by searching newspaper libraries. For example, I wanted to know where the "weapons of mass destruction" phrase came from and I found out that its modern use was started by Menachem Begin and then popularized by US and UK journalists with links to Israel. It was a deliberate black propaganda operation by Israel. If a silly old fool like me can find this out with a bit of research then almost anyone on here could do the same.
You seem to be placing a lot of reliance on professors and experts there - nothing wrong with that at all in my book. However, when 97% of them say that there is clear evidence of global warming existing, you, and others on here, claim that all but 3% of them are Liberal elite, globalist, Israeli, Fabian Society stooges :hehe:.
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ninianclark
If there is conflict between the US and NK - then there are 2 outcomes, NK will fall apart and there will be millions of refugees on the Chinese border.
NK will be like the wizard of Oz, have the courage to pull back the green curtain and you will find there was feck all to it anyway - just one big Chinese social engineering experiment. The Chinese get NK to do all their dirty work for them.
Remember back about 10 years or so, NK was threatening to destroy the evil west etc etc -and in the end when it was offered some aid - it decided to take that instead of picking fights. It's a shame that this fecking moon faced moronic chinese puppet is taking away the real problem that is Syria / ISIS
I'm old enough to remember back fifty years when America was "sorting out" another area of east Asian country that had a north and south part in the same way as Korea does - while I think you may be right about North Korea, the Americans paid heavily, particularly in psychological terms, for their under estimation of the North Vietnamese.
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Originally Posted by
Kris
I saw the Daily Star article (deleting internet history is useless). I assume that, if NK can take out America's power grid, then
A) So could anyone else
B) It's equally likely our national grid is as susceptible
C) I would be more concerned at a terrorist attack (of course ISIS couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery but, you never know)
I would also guess that the American power grid has been this weak for a long time. Considering the numeracy of their enemies, I wonder why no one has hit America where they appear softest. In other words - this is a non story for me but America - expect higher energy bills soon :)
I agree with your points and yes it has been weak for a long time which why I wonder why they keep banging on about it? if your back door didn't lock properly you wouldn't keep telling people about it would you? be like sending invitations to burglars.
Like with every news story I read I ask myself why are they telling me this? and what do they want me to think? if you had to answer that what would you say?
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
I agree with your points and yes it has been weak for a long time which why I wonder why they keep banging on about it? if your back door didn't lock properly you wouldn't keep telling people about it would you? be like sending invitations to burglars.
Like with every news story I read I ask myself why are they telling me this? and what do they want me to think? if you had to answer that what would you say?
This.
It doesn't make sense.
It might not actually be very do-able.
The USA may be butt-wiggling for someone (NK?) just to give it a go, so that they can 'catch them at it' and this have a public example to bank of being wronged, without actually entering conflict nor incurring casualty.
For whatever use/outcome.
Not sure that even makes sense either... ;)
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Attention has switched to North Korea when only days before Russia and Iran released a joint statement that included these words: 'What America waged in an aggression on Syria is a crossing of red lines. From now on we will respond with force to any aggressor or any breach of red lines from whoever it is and America knows our ability to respond well.'
It seems there's a better than 50% chance North Korea will conduct another nuke test in the days ahead. That would put the USA on the spot because if they launch just one bomb at them there would be every chance they'd respond with blitzing South Korea's capital city within minutes.
It may be time to avoid huge queues by getting an extra loaf in and withdrawing a large amount of cash.
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Originally Posted by
Vimana.
This.
It doesn't make sense.
It might not actually be very do-able.
The USA may be butt-wiggling for someone (NK?) just to give it a go, so that they can 'catch them at it' and this have a public example to bank of being wronged, without actually entering conflict nor incurring casualty.
For whatever use/outcome.
Not sure that even makes sense either... ;)
Or they are setting the stage for the mother of all false flags. :biggrin:
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Here's a fun read: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...0040036_en.pdf It's the The Civil Contingencies Act 2004. It's been compared with the USA's Patriot Act, and gives the government of the day draconian powers in the event that it declares an emergency serious enough for them to invoke the Act without Parliament's approval. It would give them the legal authority to intern whomever they please, suspend rights to a trial, requisition any private property, compel any citizen and whole communities to relocate and lots more besides.
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
I agree with your points and yes it has been weak for a long time which why I wonder why they keep banging on about it? if your back door didn't lock properly you wouldn't keep telling people about it would you? be like sending invitations to burglars.
Like with every news story I read I ask myself why are they telling me this? and what do they want me to think? if you had to answer that what would you say?
If it's true then maybe it's facts that are being leaked out by disgruntled employees. If that's the case, then you have to question how much truth is in there at all.
If it is a more official source then, I suggest, the news is geared more towards investors and stock market traders.
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Some of the posts in this thread could be deemed very patronising, especially if we don't choose to adopt the thoughts and writings of these professors, intellectual theroist, and liberal politicians, from buried references in the depths of libraries or the Internet.
Views and theories (and that's all they are ) are easily found and formed you dont have to do a lot of digging to find an anti establishment conspiracy, what is tougher is find that viewpoint or position and balance that against an opposite view or even basic reality, it's way too easy to adopt it as some rebel shout.
We are all due a free viewpoint, and if we dare to adopt an opposite view to that of others it does not make us gullible, wrong , or taken from some form of so calked ,evil media machinery, now that could be a aimed or beva soundbite from the Assad's, Putins and Kim's of this world.
Thankfully this is my last post on this matter ,I'm sure newer topics will stimulate my comment ,if it is an opposite view I can only apologise and can assure you that it's a free thought.
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Kris
If it's true then maybe it's facts that are being leaked out by disgruntled employees. If that's the case, then you have to question how much truth is in there at all.
If it is a more official source then, I suggest, the news is geared more towards investors and stock market traders.
Not really sure what you mean tbh
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the other bob wilson
You seem to be placing a lot of reliance on professors and experts there - nothing wrong with that at all in my book. However, when 97% of them say that there is clear evidence of global warming existing, you, and others on here, claim that all but 3% of them are Liberal elite, globalist, Israeli, Fabian Society stooges :hehe:.
The 97% percentage figure is made up but I will grant you that most of the climate scientists believe in global warming, but then you would expect that wouldn't you? When you are getting paid to make long term predictions about the climate you are not going to admit that it can't be done. Anyway, there are scientists and scientists. Theodore Postol's academic and professional background puts him way ahead of the average climate scientist. He's got nothing to gain but a lot to lose by standing up to his government. The climate scientists are just following the government line.
That 3% list is a bit of a coincidence because I have spent some time today trying to work out if someone wrongfully accused of being a sexual predator was set up because of his views on global warming. I could find links to globalists and a very powerful group of police and legal people with surnames originating from a certain Middle Eastern country, but in the end I thought it was just too far fetched to be true. So you see, even cranks like me draw the line somewhere. Not everything is a conspiracy.
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It took how many years to get the Paris Agreement, and yet climate change is the 'government line' :hehe: :hehe:
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lardy
It took how many years to get the Paris Agreement, and yet climate change is the 'government line' :hehe: :hehe:
Climate change science was nothing until politicians realised they could make money from it. Just look at Tim Yeo and Chris Huhne.
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They dreamed the climate change hoax up in the 1960s. The author of the book the Report from Iron Mountain later claimed it was tongue-in-cheek but everything in it came true.
Assad has made remarks that some have maintained for ages by stating Trump is merely a tailor's dummy and that the Yanks et al are in reality on ISIS's side. http://yournewswire.com/assad-deep-s...ntrol-america/
President Assad: Deep State Control America, Not Trump
April 17, 2017 Sean Adl-Tabatabai
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad claims that Trump has been duped by the Deep State, who he says have complete control of America.
In his first interview following the Tomahawk missile attack last week, Assad claims that the neocons have taken control of the Trump administration, and that its “business as usual” for the American Deep State when it comes to dictating foreign policy.
According to the interview:
“Actually, what has been proven recently, as I said earlier, that they are hand in glove with those terrorists, the United States and the West, they’re not serious in fighting the terrorists, and yesterday some of their statesmen were defending ISIS. They were saying that ISIS doesn’t have chemical weapons.
They are defending ISIS against the Syrian government and the Syrian Army.
So, actually, you cannot talk about partnership between us who work against the terrorists and who fight the terrorism and the others who are supporting explicitly the terrorists.
…I was very cautious in saying any opinion regarding him before he became President and after.
I always say let’s see what he’s going to do, we wouldn’t comment on statements.
So, actually, this is the first proof that it’s not about the President in the United State; it’s about the regime and the deep state or the deep regime in the United States is still the same, it doesn’t change.
The President is only one of the performers on their theatre, if he wants to be a leader, he cannot, because as some say he wanted to be a leader, Trump wanted to be a leader, but every President there, if he wants to be a real leader, later he’s going to eat his words, swallow his pride if he has pride at all, and make a 180 degree U-turn, otherwise he would pay the price politically”.
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David Vincent
Climate change science was nothing until politicians realised they could make money from it. Just look at Tim Yeo and Chris Huhne.
When do you think that started happening? Tim Yeo and Chris Huhne are quite recent examples.
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i believe apple are paying the amrican government to do this. america bombs north korea then north korea wipes out south korea. who is based in south korea? samsung thats who. win win for the evil apple empire.
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kingbillyboy
i believe apple are paying the amrican government to do this. america bombs north korea then north korea wipes out south korea. who is based in south korea? samsung thats who. win win for the evil apple empire.
Stick to the apples you know about - fermented ones.
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David Vincent
Stick to the apples you know about - fermented ones.
Fermented foods are good for you too, bonus :hehe:
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David Vincent
Stick to the apples you know about - fermented ones.
i know what i am talking about. why do you think steve jobs was murdered? to keep him quiet thats why.
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kingbillyboy
i know what i am talking about. why do you think steve jobs was murdered? to keep him quiet thats why.
This thread is getting rather good :sherlock:
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Wales-Bales
This thread is getting rather good :sherlock:
It's not as full as your inbox. :-)