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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
I'd like to thank Warnock for regenerating a broken team and club ,even if we fall away from where we are its such a relief to go down knowing you have a chance of beating anyone in this league ,oops we have beaten a lot mostly In the top 6 which is a good sign ,those of us who go can see that progress, those who are simply keyboard critics need to pop along and enjoy the experience, not perfect but a lot better than we have seen over the previous years.
I’ve been to every Saturday home game this season, including last Saturday so not just a keyboard critic.
Just because we beat Villa in such swash buckling fashion doesn’t mean we can’t critique the poor performances.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I was replying to a poster saying I was on a wind up when you said I didn’t like the answers.
My concern is too many bad days at the office recently with Warnock too intent on blaming the ref than recognising something needs to change.
I don’t think you’re on a wind up, I’m just not fed up with Warnock.
Was the ref poor on Saturday? Yes. Did he cost us the win? No.
Like I said, question asked and answered. People have different opinions.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
I don’t think you’re on a wind up, I’m just not fed up with Warnock.
Was the ref poor on Saturday? Yes. Did he cost us the win? No.
Like I said, question asked and answered. People have different opinions.
The question wasn’t fed up with Warnock it was fed up with him blaming referees.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
I don’t think you’re on a wind up, I’m just not fed up with Warnock.
Was the ref poor on Saturday? Yes. Did he cost us the win? No.
Like I said, question asked and answered. People have different opinions.
Are opinions allowed anymore?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
The question wasn’t fed up with Warnock it was fed up with him blaming referees.
What is the title of this thread??!
Am I allowed to question this?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I’ve been to every Saturday home game this season, including last Saturday so not just a keyboard critic.
Just because we beat Villa in such swash buckling fashion doesn’t mean we can’t critique the poor performances.
According to the points and our position in the league, one might assume we beaten more than Villa, and good results against good teams.
I'd like to congratulate you on livening the message board this evening, with this thread .
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
The question wasn’t fed up with Warnock it was fed up with him blaming referees.
My answer’s still no I’m afraid.
Warnock did criticise the ref, but I don’t recall him saying it was the ref’s fault we didn’t win.
As crap as he was, I don’t think the ref hurt us on Saturday.
What hurt us was a couple of key injuries, a strange line up, iffy tactics and a team who’s sole mission seemed to be to stop us playing.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
My answer’s still no I’m afraid.
As crap as he was, I don’t think the ref hurt us on Saturday.
What hurt us was a couple of key injuries, a strange line up, iffy tactics and a team who’s sole mission seemed to be to stop us playing.
Then why does he blame the ref?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
According to the points and our position in the league, one might assume we beaten more than Villa, and good results against good teams.
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Maybe you should remind yourself of that the next time you are criticising. As a quick check of your posts since Saturday you have been doing. :thumbup:
Otherwise you may look a little bit of a hypocrite, and maybe on a wind up yourself :thumbup:
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Then why does he blame the ref?
Did he?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
Did he?
Yes, as he did against Birmingham, as he did against Burton in the cup, as he did against Newcastle last home game last season, as he usually does when he loses or the team and / or himself under perform.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Yes
What did he say? I’m going by this article so maybe I’m missing something.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/f...ently-13825923
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
Clearly
Spends most of the interview moaning about the ref and a tiny little summary at the end of his own teams failings.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
We're 3rd. NW can complain about anyone he likes, as much as he likes.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Clearly
Spends most of the interview moaning about the ref and a tiny little summary at the end of his own teams failings.
Both managers and about 18,000 fans were critical of the ref. You said yourself that the ref was poor.
That’s not the same as saying the ref cost us 2 points.
Can you provide any quotes where warnock has blamed the ref for us not winning?
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
TH63
Both managers and about 18,000 fans were critical of the ref. That’s not the same as saying the ref cost us 2 points.
Can you provide any quotes where warnock has blamed the ref for us not winning?
Both managers critical of the ref with one eye on their own team, and not mentioning the ones he got wrong for the opposition. Not biased or anything. :hehe:
I dont need to provide any quotes there’s enough evidence in your link, to back up the point I am making. You can still blame the referee, which he is clearly doing without him actually saying “the ref cost us 2 points”
There are similair links available on several of our games this season and last season. It’s a common theme when results doesn’t go as planned with Warnock. Before and during his time with Cardiff.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
It's a common theme with all managers...
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
ccfc_is_my_life
It's a common theme with all managers...
Some more than others.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
Criticism of a referee and bluntly blaming the referee are two different things. Warnock hasn't once said "we didn't win because Martin was poor" etc.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Źźzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz😥😴😴😴😴
Good idea
Goodnight the hypocrite from Mars
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Ryan Way
Criticism of a referee and bluntly blaming the referee are two different things. Warnock hasn't once said "we didn't win because Martin was poor" etc.
If he just criticising a poor referee performance, and not blaming him, why not acknowledge the errors he made for both teams?
Instead he says the lad dived for the one where Morrision clearly pulled his shoulder and as last man should have been sent off 😂
If it’s not a shifting the blame game please tell me why you don’t hear him mentioning the ref when we win? Funny that 🤔
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Źźzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz😥😴😴😴😴
Thread can easily be ignored.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
If he just criticising a poor referee performance, and not blaming him, why not acknowledge the errors he made for both teams?
Instead he says the lad dived for the one where Morrision clearly pulled his shoulder and as last man should have been sent off
If it’s not a shifting the blame game please tell me why you don’t hear him mentioning the ref when we win? Funny that
Warnock said he was consistently poor throughout, but we "had to take our chances" and "lacked that clinical touch". Where was the blame? Even if he says we should've had a pen, doesn't mean he's blamed him for the draw, penalty doesn't guarantee the win. Funny that you seem to be ignoring where he says that we haven't taken our chances and are solely focusing on his comments on the referee.
When we win, why should he have to talk about the ref? He'll obviously talk our team up. All managers do this.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Ryan Way
Warnock said he was consistently poor throughout, but we "had to take our chances" and "lacked that clinical touch". Where was the blame? Even if he says we should've had a pen, doesn't mean he's blamed him for the draw, penalty doesn't guarantee the win. Funny that you seem to be ignoring where he says that we haven't taken our chances and are solely focusing on his comments on the referee.
When we win, why should he have to talk about the ref? He'll obviously talk our team up. All managers do this.
I haven’t ignored it at all. I said in a previous post he spent most of the post match interview speaking about the ref, then a small little summary of his team at the end.
I am focusing on his comments about the referee because, as I said in the opening post, im fed up of him blaming referees for poor performances.
We were shocking up at St Andrews a couple of weeks ago yet he is going ballistic about the referee, saying the players deserved better from the officials. Sorry but we got what we deserved that night, absolutely nothing.
And all managers do not have a pop at referees like Warnock does. He’s one of the worst in the game.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Negative cock.
:hehe:
Don’t you start!!!
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
I haven’t ignored it at all. I said in a previous post he spent most of the post match interview speaking about the ref, then a small little summary of his team at the end.
I am focusing on his comments about the referee because, as I said in the opening post, im fed up of him blaming referees for poor performances.
We were shocking up at St Andrews a couple of weeks ago yet he is going ballistic about the referee, saying the players deserved better from the officials. Sorry but we got what we deserved that night, absolutely nothing.
And all managers do not have a pop at referees like Warnock does. He’s one of the worst in the game.
Would you disagree with his comments on the ref at Birmingham? Especially if the ref has said anywhere else on the park and it's a pen? That's ineptitude.
He later said that we didn't do enough to win, "didn't get enough shots in, the final pass was poor" but again, you seem to ignore that. All managers slate referees when decisions go against them, big difference between criticism and blaming though. If you're fed up with that, I question why you're not fed up with the poor officiating. He's not saying it for shits and giggles, he's saying it because Morrison gets dragged down twice or three times a game and we get nothing, he's saying it because Bennett gets his bonce knocked off. They're not the reasons we drop points, as he goes on to point out, we may have struggled with shots etc.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Don’t you start!!!
Lol. :hehe:
Couldn't resist. Actually, I think we both have very similar opinions regarding Warnock.
Doing a good job - yes. The Messiah? Not quite.
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Re: Anyonelse getting fed up of Warnock
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Sorry but we can’t keep pointing back to the beginning of last season.
This is Warnocks squad and has his stamp on it now. If there are poor performances masked by him blaming the ref then I’m going to say so.
And rightly so. I think that it's a fair question, and a good one to debate. Posters, putting down your question, by basically saying that we were shit a year ago, don't seem to understand your point, and whatever has gone on in the past, isn't relevant to what you're saying. I agree with you, Warnock does look for an 'out' when blaming the Referee.