Steve Borley...

[Elysium]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

"tens of thousands", to me, implies 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 maybe even 90,000. Which is why I chuckled at your exaggeration. Never mind, no big deal.

[the other bob wilson]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

Happy New Year Croesy .

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

No biggy

[saganspirit]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

What possible reason could he have to have you on ignore...

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

Back to your question...I have no idea why anyone would put me in ignore unless they are fascists who don't agree in free speech and the inalienable right to express yourself.

[Arbiter]

Maybe as a director he knew the true position of the club...

Maybe. Although if he did, then it's curious that the Chairman and CEO didn't...

Really? There are plenty of examples of one director knowing about the workings of a company that the chairman or CEO weren't privy to. Being a civil servant I wouldn't expect you to be too familiar with corporate governance other than what you have read in a book. Perhaps you are outside of your comfort zone here but don't really appreciate it. It certainly appears that way.

Is there really any need to adopt such an attitude, Feedback? You are an intelligent person and you do not need to resort to schoolboy insults. Why not just argue your point reasonably if you think you have a good case. People don't seem to realise that insulting other posters does not necessarily strengthen their own case.

What's rude about this? It's not insulting in any way. If someone seems clearly lacking in understanding of a subject then it's not rude to suggest it. Feedback has hardly been insulting.

He kindly accepted the criticism. Intelligent posters are able to argue a point without ad hominem comments.

[Jimmy the Jock]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

Sorted..

[Jimmy the Jock]

poor Steve isnt getting a look in now.

[GRUMPYS DEN]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

Leave me out of this-haven't said a word!!!

[waynekerr55]

2 pages and not one post blaming Dave Jones for ruining corporate governance at Cardiff City FC.

This place has changed...

[Vimana.]

poor Steve isnt getting a look in now.

Meanwhile the Nurses and 'other undeserving feckless types' are now on standby for a festive seasonal sidetrack sideshow kicking by the mass collective of Armed Accountants, Tax Commandos and Bailed Out Bankers in Arms ..

[Jimmy the Jock]

2 pages and not one post blaming Dave Jones for ruining corporate governance at Cardiff City FC.

Imagine he had the wealth of riches to spend that were bestowed on Ollie?

poor Steve isnt getting a look in now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30648333

[Dr Tim Muff]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/index.php?t=msg&th=385737 &goto=4128579&rid=170#msg_4128579

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

In the latter respect, SB's recent actions do seem uncomfortably at odds with his admirable earlier actions.

Not really, you are just a cock end

[Vimana.]

poor Steve isnt getting a look in now.

Meanwhile the Nurses and 'other undeserving feckless types' are now on standby for a festive seasonal sidetrack sideshow kicking by the mass collective of Armed Accountants, Tax Commandos and Bailed Out Bankers in Arms ..

Meanwhile BorelyMan has finally floated away - in a gas like state - under the door

The bankers only get their bonuses if they deliver the goods. For investment bankers this means oiling the wheels of the economy such that we all benefit.

When you look at it that way it is clear that bankers really do deserve their bonuses, which most will agree aren't commensurate with the role they play in society

[Dr Tim Muff]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

In the latter respect, SB's recent actions do seem uncomfortably at odds with his admirable earlier actions.

and that is a shame for all concerned.

Is there really any need to adopt such an attitude, Feedback? You are an intelligent person and you do not need to resort to schoolboy insults. Why not just argue your point reasonably if you think you have a good case. People don't seem to realise that insulting other posters does not necessarily strengthen their own case.

[Elysium]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

In the latter respect, SB's recent actions do seem uncomfortably at odds with his admirable earlier actions.

and that is a shame for all concerned.

Why? It's only football after all. Maybe watching football is what most of us want to do and really we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with matters beyond our control.

Oh, the irony.

[Vimana.]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

In the latter respect, SB's recent actions do seem uncomfortably at odds with his admirable earlier actions.

and that is a shame for all concerned.

Why? It's only football after all. Maybe watching football is what most of us want to do and really we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with matters beyond our control.

So says the man who has posted tens of thousands of messages about UK politics on a football messageboard since the last General Election .

Just saying.

[ragbone]

Let's not forget the integral part be played in forcing through the whole rebrand, arguably for his own financial benefit.

But we must hate someone

[Elysium]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

In the latter respect, SB's recent actions do seem uncomfortably at odds with his admirable earlier actions.

and that is a shame for all concerned.

Why? It's only football after all. Maybe watching football is what most of us want to do and really we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with matters beyond our control.

So says the man who has posted tens of thousands of messages about UK politics on a football messageboard since the last General Election .

Bob

My sincere apologies for not having read all 105 posts in this thread in detail before making my comment.

[jon1959]

The bankers only get their bonuses if they deliver the goods. For investment bankers this means oiling the wheels of the economy such that we all benefit.

Did you know that £1m isn't rich any more?

[Vimana.]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

In the latter respect, SB's recent actions do seem uncomfortably at odds with his admirable earlier actions.

and that is a shame for all concerned.

Why? It's only football after all. Maybe watching football is what most of us want to do and really we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with matters beyond our control.

So says the man who has posted tens of thousands of messages about UK politics on a football messageboard since the last General Election .

Bob

Just to clarify, you still have me on ignore, but you quote me directly as in the post above. Either you're lying or you have lied.

Two hands on the keyboard please Mr Master Banter

[Elysium]

I think Steve Borley is an honourable man. He has supported our club through thick and thin, and has frequently put his health and his money on the line. He may have made some bad decisions, but I think every one of them was what he believed was in the best interests of the club.

I also don't like the attacks on Scott young, who has been a great servant of the club over a number of years. Maybe he isn't a great coach, but once again I think he is doing his very best. (Which sadly may not be good enough.)

I don't think either men like whats happening at the club, however they have to be more diplomatic (in public at least) than we need to be.

How about we stop attacking each other, and focus on the real enemy TAN. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

I agree with a lot of what you say but there's being diplomatic and then there is going completely OTT to defend the rebrand and belittling long term supporters who had a different viewpoint. He was best to say nothing at all or at least stick to "the rebrand was necessary to save the club" line.

Spot on, Steve lost a lot of respect from a lot of supporters for the way he behaved at the time. It won't be forgotten.

Mind you, some of it is now comedy gold. It was recalled on Twitter only yesterday when the red seats were first rumoured in the new stand that Borley tweeted he didn't care what colour they would be as someone would always be sat on them in games so nobody would see them.

First world problems

Nigel is correct in as much as that it wont be forgotten, but that SB's previous altruism and 'City through and through' actions will have become overshadowed (for many) by more recent stories.

I think its fair to imagine that very very few of us ever get to know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but collectively we dissect it based upon guesswork and interpretation of how thing appear to be.

In the latter respect, SB's recent actions do seem uncomfortably at odds with his admirable earlier actions.

and that is a shame for all concerned.

Why? It's only football after all. Maybe watching football is what most of us want to do and really we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with matters beyond our control.

So says the man who has posted tens of thousands of messages about UK politics on a football messageboard since the last General Election .

Bob

Just to clarify, you still have me on ignore, but you quote me directly as in the post above. Either you're lying or you have lied.

No biggy

A somewhat tetchy start to the new year for you Mr Vimana. Anything you need to get off your chest?