He beat neither Lewis nor Holyfield.Originally Posted by Pearcey wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 10:39
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clay changed his name to ali in 64, he boxed in his prime 64-67 as ali, changing his name had nothing to do with his refusal to be drafted,Originally Posted by bobh wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 10:45
He beat neither Lewis nor Holyfield.Originally Posted by Pearcey wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 10:39
Personally I think he would have destroyed Tyson over 9/10 rounds, a little like Calzaghe v LacyOriginally Posted by NYCBlue wrote on Wed, 31 December 2014 19:44
Exactly and Bruno, Berbick and Ruddock were journeymen boxers who wouldn't have come close to Ali,Frazier,Foreman or Norton a decade earlier.Originally Posted by Dr. Winston wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:09
Ali way past his best kod a prime Foreman.
That version of Ali would have easily beaten Tyson.
Ali in his prime would have humiliated Tyson and knocked him out.
Tyson kod some decent heavyweights but lost and got knocked out against the good ones.
and some not so good ones knocked Tyson out, Danny Williams and Kevin McBride.Originally Posted by Hilts wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:20
I dont think there are any really disputes on the results of their 3 fights and in the most famous Frazier was stopped.Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird wrote on Wed, 31 December 2014 19:03
That is a very good write up, only wished Ali had quit while he was at the top, the defeats when he was past his best tarnished slightly his superb record.Originally Posted by gandalf2013 wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:27
Had Frazier's corner not thrown in the towel at the end of the 14th Ali's corner may well have done. Both fighters had apparently reached a near death situation such was the intensity of that bout.You are right Ali won it but it was incredibly close.Originally Posted by Hilts wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:29
Just about sums it up nicelyOriginally Posted by gandalf2013 wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:27
People mention Lewis and Klitschko but surely Ali's speed would have been too much for these guys despite the size? Klitschko turned like the titanic ffs
For me prime Frazier also kos prime Tyson.Originally Posted by Pearcey wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:34
"Personally I think he would have destroyed Tyson over 9/10 rounds, a little like Calzaghe v Lacy"
^^^ This
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Tyson paid 4 million pound to Lennox Lewis to avoid facing him when both fighters were in their prime.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Wed, 31 December 2014 18:58
Maybe some of us prefer Tyson because some of us were young when Tyson was dominant and ruthless. That is part of what gets me about him - he was pure animal, as close to a street fighter as I've seen (this showed later on with his biting, I guess).Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 14:38
For me, for pure spectacle and excitement though, Tyson was the greatest boxer of my generation.Originally Posted by Cardiff Bread wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 14:53
ali by the proverbial mile, tyson was a mauler and an animal to boot, but ali in his prime would have done exactly like he he did to foreman in 74, he would have let him punch himself out, he was too quick and too clever to get hit most of the time.
the dope on a rope tactic would have done for tyson, exactly as it did for foreman. ali was the greatest sportsman let alone greatest heavyweight of all time. his only problem was he went on too long, hence the reason he is in the state he is in today.
17 May 1996 - The handlers of Mike Tyson couldn't win in court, so they paid Lennox Lewis, who agreed Thursday to step aside and let Tyson fight World ...Originally Posted by Cardiff Bread wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 14:53
Can't get the link to work properly but if you google "Tyson pays Lewis" it's there for all to seeOriginally Posted by Under the Splott-light wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 15:01
I'm not disputing that, merely pointing out that for me at least, Tyson was the most exciting fighter of my era, starting around 1985 and ending around 1990, not the greatest, the most thrilling to watch.Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 15:37
I agree he was the most exciting heavyweight for years but avoided Lewis. It's a shame Joshua is going to struggle for credible opponents for the next few yearsOriginally Posted by Under the Splott-light wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 15:46
tyson had no competition when he was around, pretty much like nowadays. when ali was fighting there was far more decent fighters around, and he was at at the top for over a decade.
tyson was burnt out and washed up within 3-4 years, no comparison whatsoever.
In This Thread: People struggling to understand the phrase "In their Prime".
Tysons was before he found a journeyman who decided to fight back. After his defeat he was no longer seen as invincible. To himself as to others as well.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:02