Reply With QuoteWouldn't the best position to give a place on the board to the trust rather than a specified individual. The members of the trust vote on who makes up the committee. So there is a course of action in place if fans become unhappy.
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IF there was tobe a position for a fans rep on the board I would like to see someone who views things in an even handed way as possible . To me someone like TOBW would be as good as anyone as he could report matters back in an articulate and even handed way with no real bias .
Wouldn't the best position to give a place on the board to the trust rather than a specified individual. The members of the trust vote on who makes up the committee. So there is a course of action in place if fans become unhappy.
Not sure why people are suggesting TLG. He isn't a fan anymore is he? at least not until Tan goes. Keith would be ideal in my opinion although I think the trust Idea is a great one
Gwyn is an obvious choice.Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick wrote on Tue, 13 January 2015 12:56
With what has gone on the past few years, it would be good to have say 5 people on the board, all of who get to vote and get our say on things.
The committee of the trust is answerable to its members and if people think they are doing a terrible job they can join and either stand for election of vote for someone else.Wouldn't the best position to give a place on the board to the trust rather than a specified individual. The members of the trust vote on who makes up the committee. So there is a course of action in place if fans become unhappy.
I think any fan representative must come from the Trust if he or she is to be accountable fans. But if I were the club I wouldn't allow such an arrangement until the Trust itself is a truly representative organisation I would specify that the Trust must have at least 2000 paid up members before the arrangement could be triggered. If fans didn't join the Trust in sufficient numbers I would say they do not deserve representation on the board.
The trust is the only body that i feel can provide that representation as it stands.
That is true as far as it goes. But it has a very small memebership - of which I am one- which allows its enemies in certain quarters to call into question its representative status and argue for consultation through other channels which are neither democratic or representative. Greater membership for the Trust is only way to combat this.I think any fan representative must come from the Trust if he or she is to be accountable fans. But if I were the club I wouldn't allow such an arrangement until the Trust itself is a truly representative organisation I would specify that the Trust must have at least 2000 paid up members before the arrangement could be triggered. If fans didn't join the Trust in sufficient numbers I would say they do not deserve representation on the board.
Agreed, it would also lead to the Trust getting a bigger membership.
One seat on the board - perhaps a non-voting position. Trust allowed to buy shares - when they get a certain percentage, that board member is allowed to vote.Wouldn't the best position to give a place on the board to the trust rather than a specified individual. The members of the trust vote on who makes up the committee. So there is a course of action in place if fans become unhappy.This actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe increase the members aswell.
The Trust may gain members with responsibility, and be left without credibility without it.I think any fan representative must come from the Trust if he or she is to be accountable fans. But if I were the club I wouldn't allow such an arrangement until the Trust itself is a truly representative organisation I would specify that the Trust must have at least 2000 paid up members before the arrangement could be triggered. If fans didn't join the Trust in sufficient numbers I would say they do not deserve representation on the board.I feel that some fan representation is better than none.
Time will tell, but if someone can put an offer to the club, we will hopefully be in a place where we the fans have a voice.Wouldn't the best position to give a place on the board to the trust rather than a specified individual. The members of the trust vote on who makes up the committee. So there is a course of action in place if fans become unhappy.This actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe increase the members aswell.Would be nice for the club to say for every (so many) members join the trust, we could have another member on the board up to a maximum number.
Could the Trust get together with the club - increase ST prices by a tenner - thereby making every ST holder a member of the Trust? Fans could have the option to opt out and, for those of us who are not attending, we still have a chance to join the Trust and vote on a representative.I think any fan representative must come from the Trust if he or she is to be accountable fans. But if I were the club I wouldn't allow such an arrangement until the Trust itself is a truly representative organisation I would specify that the Trust must have at least 2000 paid up members before the arrangement could be triggered. If fans didn't join the Trust in sufficient numbers I would say they do not deserve representation on the board.
I'm not necessarily a fan of that, you would like to think the individual is joining the trust out of choice.I think any fan representative must come from the Trust if he or she is to be accountable fans. But if I were the club I wouldn't allow such an arrangement until the Trust itself is a truly representative organisation I would specify that the Trust must have at least 2000 paid up members before the arrangement could be triggered. If fans didn't join the Trust in sufficient numbers I would say they do not deserve representation on the board.I feel that some fan representation is better than none.
The Trust is an organisation run by a group of volunteers. It is difficult for them to attract new members - I suggest they speak to the club in this new age of "listening", ask them to include Trust membership in the Season Ticket price, and give ST purchasers the option to opt in or out.I think any fan representative must come from the Trust if he or she is to be accountable fans. But if I were the club I wouldn't allow such an arrangement until the Trust itself is a truly representative organisation I would specify that the Trust must have at least 2000 paid up members before the arrangement could be triggered. If fans didn't join the Trust in sufficient numbers I would say they do not deserve representation on the board.I feel that some fan representation is better than none.The trust is the only body that i feel can provide that representation as it stands.
All it needs is a tickbox on the renewal form. It doesn't have to be small print. People need to join out of choice, but some people may not be aware of the Trust, how to join, or even what it does.I think any fan representative must come from the Trust if he or she is to be accountable fans. But if I were the club I wouldn't allow such an arrangement until the Trust itself is a truly representative organisation I would specify that the Trust must have at least 2000 paid up members before the arrangement could be triggered. If fans didn't join the Trust in sufficient numbers I would say they do not deserve representation on the board.I feel that some fan representation is better than none.The trust is the only body that i feel can provide that representation as it stands.
whoever gets it good luck to them. I imagine their inbox will be quite full.
I don't think having a fan on the board is a great idea necessarily, I am sure there are plenty of subjects/discussions that are best left in the board room and very difficult to get one fan that can represent all fan opinion.
I do think better fan engagement is needed and the meeting around the rebrand seemed a great forum, I would far prefer a quarterly meeting in a similar format than a board position.
No matter what i think of the running, i still feel that it is the only organisation that can handle and deal with board representation.I think any fan representative must come from the Trust if he or she is to be accountable fans. But if I were the club I wouldn't allow such an arrangement until the Trust itself is a truly representative organisation I would specify that the Trust must have at least 2000 paid up members before the arrangement could be triggered. If fans didn't join the Trust in sufficient numbers I would say they do not deserve representation on the board.I feel that some fan representation is better than none.The trust is the only body that i feel can provide that representation as it stands.Could the Trust get together with the club - increase ST prices by a tenner - thereby making every ST holder a member of the Trust? Fans could have the option to opt out and, for those of us who are not attending, we still have a chance to join the Trust and vote on a representative.
We had quarterly meeting with PR, he just used it as an opportunity to spread his spin.
A slimmed down version of the rebrand forum held regularly would canvas a greater and therefore truer feeling amongst fans in my opinion.I don't think having a fan on the board is a great idea necessarily, I am sure there are plenty of subjects/discussions that are best left in the board room and very difficult to get one fan that can represent all fan opinion.
Has to be Keith for me
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