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From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue wrote on Wed, 14 January 2015 10:43
Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.
So he recovered from an injury in 7 days, it's hardly a miracle!Thing is when a welsh game is on Collins always seems to be injured yet plays for club following weekMyth, check your facts.
Check how many meaningful games he's missed.Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.
I'd have done the same if I was Collins, how can Coleman justify leaving out our best and most experienced defender?
I like Collins and wish he was more committed to Wales but sadly the stats prove that he isn't. Say what you like about Williams but he's been superb for Wales recently and has shown a much higher level of commitment to the causeAshley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!
Collins is committed to Wales, he's just not committed to our current manager and captain, and he's not the only one!Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!
Thats going to work well isn't it....Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?
But you knew thatAshley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!
It was an open goal. I couldnt resist.Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.
To be fair, it wasn't one of your best pieces of supporting evidence was it?Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.
Try google > James Collins pulls out of Welsh squad you'll see how 'committed' he isAshley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?
Game,Set and Match!!!!!Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!
Thats an unfair representation - he got sent off against Belgium and missed some through suspensionAshley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.
Jimmys' A level sarcasm is wasted on you!Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.
Not at all -stop wriggling!!!You have had a bit of a battering on here-but you know that!!!Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.You're correct, he has been plagued with injuries throughout his career, the way he plays he is always going to pick up the odd injury here and there. i.e. tackling and heading!
Maybe you could then highlight my "batterng"Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.You're correct, he has been plagued with injuries throughout his career, the way he plays he is always going to pick up the odd injury here and there. i.e. tackling and heading!He has to pick and choose his games carefully, and money making friendlies for the FAW are low on his list of priorities.
Why?It's there for all to see.Another wriggle-your struggling now.A different obsession than Ash might help youAshley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.You're correct, he has been plagued with injuries throughout his career, the way he plays he is always going to pick up the odd injury here and there. i.e. tackling and heading!He has to pick and choose his games carefully, and money making friendlies for the FAW are low on his list of priorities.Check how many meaningful games he's missed.
See you in Israel!Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.You're correct, he has been plagued with injuries throughout his career, the way he plays he is always going to pick up the odd injury here and there. i.e. tackling and heading!He has to pick and choose his games carefully, and money making friendlies for the FAW are low on his list of priorities.Check how many meaningful games he's missed.Always an excuse, in that time he's played around 100 club games in all competitions so injuries don't appear to have restricted his game time with Villa/West Ham too much.
GB using your analogy, should the captain of Cardiff City be a Cardiff Born player ?
A Grangetown captain!
OCDAshley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.You're correct, he has been plagued with injuries throughout his career, the way he plays he is always going to pick up the odd injury here and there. i.e. tackling and heading!He has to pick and choose his games carefully, and money making friendlies for the FAW are low on his list of priorities.Check how many meaningful games he's missed.Always an excuse, in that time he's played around 100 club games in all competitions so injuries don't appear to have restricted his game time with Villa/West Ham too much.I like Collins and wish he was more committed to Wales but sadly the stats prove that he isn't. Say what you like about Williams but he's been superb for Wales recently and has shown a much higher level of commitment to the cause
P R I D EAshley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.You're correct, he has been plagued with injuries throughout his career, the way he plays he is always going to pick up the odd injury here and there. i.e. tackling and heading!He has to pick and choose his games carefully, and money making friendlies for the FAW are low on his list of priorities.Check how many meaningful games he's missed.Always an excuse, in that time he's played around 100 club games in all competitions so injuries don't appear to have restricted his game time with Villa/West Ham too much.I like Collins and wish he was more committed to Wales but sadly the stats prove that he isn't. Say what you like about Williams but he's been superb for Wales recently and has shown a much higher level of commitment to the causeCollins is committed to Wales, he's just not committed to our current manager and captain, and he's not the only one!
The sooner Collins retires the betterAshley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.You're correct, he has been plagued with injuries throughout his career, the way he plays he is always going to pick up the odd injury here and there. i.e. tackling and heading!He has to pick and choose his games carefully, and money making friendlies for the FAW are low on his list of priorities.Check how many meaningful games he's missed.Always an excuse, in that time he's played around 100 club games in all competitions so injuries don't appear to have restricted his game time with Villa/West Ham too much.I like Collins and wish he was more committed to Wales but sadly the stats prove that he isn't. Say what you like about Williams but he's been superb for Wales recently and has shown a much higher level of commitment to the cause
Do you have a siren linked to this forum in your bedsit that goes off when Captain colossus is mentioned ?Ashley Williams has shown significantly more desire to play for Wales than James Collins who drops out of every single squad. Maybe if Collins didn't automatically expect to be picked for the starting team and instead came into the camp, trained hard, showed what he could do in training to Coleman and took his chance when it inevitably come then he'd be in the team, however he seems to have no desire to play for Wales.He 'drops out' when he's injured!He's one of the proudest Welshmen you could ever meet, and one of the hardest trainers!Where did you get your facts from?And if I was my countries best defender, I'd expect to be picked for every squad!From 2012 to present he's played in 5 games for Wales. Wales have played 22 fixtures in that time. He sure is unlucky to get so many injuries around the time of internationals.You're correct, he has been plagued with injuries throughout his career, the way he plays he is always going to pick up the odd injury here and there. i.e. tackling and heading!He has to pick and choose his games carefully, and money making friendlies for the FAW are low on his list of priorities.Check how many meaningful games he's missed.Always an excuse, in that time he's played around 100 club games in all competitions so injuries don't appear to have restricted his game time with Villa/West Ham too much.I like Collins and wish he was more committed to Wales but sadly the stats prove that he isn't. Say what you like about Williams but he's been superb for Wales recently and has shown a much higher level of commitment to the cause
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