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  1. #1

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Plenty of debate on Call Rob Phillips on the radio yesterday evening. All callers with a city bias pleaded for Whittingham, and inferred also Gunnarrson to be dropped. Phillips would not have it, saying most of City's goals have come from his set pieces this season.

    But it is plain that he does not create much from open play, and is IMO the main culprit for standing off opposing midfielders shooting at will from 20+ yards (look at Derby's equaliser for one example and many more since), and is just too slow.

    So there is the conundrum.

    There is a place for slowing and ageing midfielders even in the best of teams (Giggs, Scholes etc etc) but without people around to him to compensate for his lack of pace, he is a passenger.

    And as for his ability to score from set pieces. Well I appreciate his pen miss was a rarity but I reckon he hasn't notched in a league game a direct free kick since Sep 2012 v Wolves. I know we don't get many due to the lack of possession near the opposition box, but when he has a chance, his efforts have ben for too long now lame.

  2. #2

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cretin Hop wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:17
    Plenty of debate on Call Rob Phillips on the radio yesterday evening. All callers with a city bias pleaded for Whittingham, and inferred also Gunnarrson to be dropped. Phillips would not have it, saying most of City's goals have come from his set pieces this season.
    Whitttingham scored v Derby and we scored off a corner. So he's in credit for that game. I think we should be building a five man midfield around him.

  3. #3

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Brayford is the issue. All the goals came from his side yesterday...take the 800k from sheff united and get mcnaughton back off loan if we can..Change chicken legs for fab on the left aswell

  4. #4

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by @CCFCProgrammes wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:50
    Brayford is the issue. All the goals came from his side yesterday...take the 800k from sheff united and get mcnaughton back off loan if we can..Change chicken legs for fab on the left aswell
    I think he's been fairly solid and dependable this season but again there was no pressure on Lafferty for the 2nd and his defending for the 3rd was comical!

  5. #5

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Marshall

    Brayford
    Connolly
    Turner
    Malone

    Harris
    Ralls
    Adeymi
    Whitts
    Pilkington

    Revell

    Would be my team if everyone is fit.

  6. #6

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 12:00
    Marshall
    Perhaps Manga for Connolly but I'd agree with that as Kenwynne can't play 90 minutes it seems.

  7. #7

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 12:00
    Marshall
    I'm wondering however if Whitts is carrying an injury as he doesn't seem to be able to strike the ball with his usual freedom. If he is then we need another creative ball winner in the middle, which I don't think we have at the Club any more. Kim would be the closest we have at the moment and his confidence seems shot.

  8. #8

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Marshall
    Connolly
    Manga
    Turner
    Adeyemi
    Fab
    Noone
    Whitts
    Ralls
    Kads
    Jones

    3-1-5-1 formation with Adeyemi in front of the back 3

  9. #9

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stavross CCFC wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:55
    Brayford is the issue. All the goals came from his side yesterday...take the 800k from sheff united and get mcnaughton back off loan if we can..Change chicken legs for fab on the left aswell
    Quote Originally Posted by @CCFCProgrammes wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:50
    I think he's been fairly solid and dependable this season but again there was no pressure on Lafferty for the 2nd and his defending for the 3rd was comical!
    Watched virtually every game this year and theres been so many times ive thought why the fuc k did he do that then..the team we have at the moment would walk league 1...unfortunately we are only 8 points from heading there.

  10. #10

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by @CCFCProgrammes wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:50
    Brayford is the issue. All the goals came from his side yesterday...take the 800k from sheff united and get mcnaughton back off loan if we can..Change chicken legs for fab on the left aswell
    Malone looks pretty shocking to me, redmond torn him to shreds, Morrison and Turner didn't look to good either. Brayford been one of our more consistent performers this season. Not been playing as well recently though.

  11. #11

    Re: Same old, same old.

    I can't agree with you about Adeymi Paul. I don't see anything in him.

  12. #12

    Re: Same old, same old.

    All 3 goals were horrendously defended. Hooper should never be allowed all that space at the back post. Brayford doesn't close Lafferty down quick enough for the second - and Moore really should do better with the shot. The least said about the third the better. Absolutely shocking.

    Having said all that, we actually did create a few good chances. Sean Morrison had one cleared off the line, and immediately after Turner should head Le Fondre's back heel in. Revell missed a glaring opportunity from 5 yards putting it around 20 yards too high, and of course Whittingham's first penalty miss in a few years.

  13. #13

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by A-team wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 12:59
    Brayford is the issue. All the goals came from his side yesterday...take the 800k from sheff united and get mcnaughton back off loan if we can..Change chicken legs for fab on the left aswell
    Quote Originally Posted by @CCFCProgrammes wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:50
    Malone looks pretty shocking to me, redmond torn him to shreds, Morrison and Turner didn't look to good either. Brayford been one of our more consistent performers this season. Not been playing as well recently though.
    There are far too many shots from the edge of the box not being blocked or charged down and far too many uncontested crosses coming into our box. Its happening game after game and we have conceded more goals from shots outside the box than we have in recent seasons. Brayfords effort to blocks Lafferty's shot for the second goal on Saturday was pretty pathetic and his effort to prevent Jerome scoring the third was probably worse!! That is what Slade means by the defending is not good enough. We have to get tighter on the wide players and deny the cross or when we drive them inside we have to come out and block the shot.

  14. #14

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by A-team wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 12:59
    Brayford is the issue. All the goals came from his side yesterday...take the 800k from sheff united and get mcnaughton back off loan if we can..Change chicken legs for fab on the left aswell
    Quote Originally Posted by @CCFCProgrammes wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:50
    Malone looks pretty shocking to me, redmond torn him to shreds, Morrison and Turner didn't look to good either. Brayford been one of our more consistent performers this season. Not been playing as well recently though.
    It was noticeable that when Declan John came on Redmond didn't look half as dangerous

  15. #15
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    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Thomas wrote on Mon, 19 January 2015 10:46
    Brayford is the issue. All the goals came from his side yesterday...take the 800k from sheff united and get mcnaughton back off loan if we can..Change chicken legs for fab on the left aswell
    Quote Originally Posted by A-team wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 12:59
    Malone looks pretty shocking to me, redmond torn him to shreds, Morrison and Turner didn't look to good either. Brayford been one of our more consistent performers this season. Not been playing as well recently though.
    Quote Originally Posted by @CCFCProgrammes wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:50
    Totally agree with your opinion of Malone performance
    Yeah and by the time Declan came on Redmond had been running his nuts off for 65 mins

  16. #16

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue wrote on Mon, 19 January 2015 11:01
    Brayford is the issue. All the goals came from his side yesterday...take the 800k from sheff united and get mcnaughton back off loan if we can..Change chicken legs for fab on the left aswell
    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Thomas wrote on Mon, 19 January 2015 10:46
    Malone looks pretty shocking to me, redmond torn him to shreds, Morrison and Turner didn't look to good either. Brayford been one of our more consistent performers this season. Not been playing as well recently though.
    Quote Originally Posted by A-team wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 12:59
    Totally agree with your opinion of Malone performance
    Quote Originally Posted by @CCFCProgrammes wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:50
    It was noticeable that when Declan John came on Redmond didn't look half as dangerous
    Good point. He must have been exhausted running around Malone so often

  17. #17

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boredoffootball wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:47
    Plenty of debate on Call Rob Phillips on the radio yesterday evening. All callers with a city bias pleaded for Whittingham, and inferred also Gunnarrson to be dropped. Phillips would not have it, saying most of City's goals have come from his set pieces this season.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cretin Hop wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:17
    But it is plain that he does not create much from open play, and is IMO the main culprit for standing off opposing midfielders shooting at will from 20+ yards (look at Derby's equaliser for one example and many more since), and is just too slow.
    Spedger

  18. #18

    Re: Same old, same old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cretin Hop wrote on Sun, 18 January 2015 11:17
    Plenty of debate on Call Rob Phillips on the radio yesterday evening. All callers with a city bias pleaded for Whittingham, and inferred also Gunnarrson to be dropped. Phillips would not have it, saying most of City's goals have come from his set pieces this season.
    I can't see how dropping the ONLY player to give a shit about the Club can help. Get rid of the rest of the idiots.

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