How much time does a manager need?

[blue lewj]

How long does a manager need at a new club before he can be judged?

I have seen several suggestions ranging from a few months to two transfer windows to a year or two.

How long do you feel a manager should be given firstly to show some meaningful progression and more to the point a stage where they can say this is my team and can be judged?

[qccfc]

How long does a manager need at a new club before he can be judged?

January is a tough window to change things around in because clubs don't want to release their best players, not knowing what they will be able to bring in.

[blue lewj]

How long does a manager need at a new club before he can be judged?

I have seen several suggestions ranging from a few months to two transfer windows to a year or two.

Once he has assembled his new team how long would you give him in to the new season though?

[qccfc]

How long does a manager need at a new club before he can be judged?

I have seen several suggestions ranging from a few months to two transfer windows to a year or two.

How long do you feel a manager should be given firstly to show some meaningful progression and more to the point a stage where they can say this is my team and can be judged?

Whilst i'm not that keen on what is being achieved at the moment, i don't believe that any manager could succeed in this current environment.

[Optimistic Nick]

I have had 3 "grown up" jobs in my life. For each of them, I was given a 6 month probationary period at the start. One of them even had specific performance measures for the first 3 years and if I missed any of them, I was out.

Obviously it is rare for people to be let go during a probationary period, but football management seems like exactly the type of job where a probationary period makes sense. Moyes had some sort of get-out-of-jail-free clause built in to his contract because he was booted as soon as CL qualification was mathematically impossible. It would have made sense for Slade to have something similar in his: e.g. failure to finish in the playoffs = club has the right to terminate his contract.

If he did have a 6 month probationary period built in to his contract, I honestly believe he should start to worry. I accept that the situation he is in is dreadful, and expectations are too high, but I've seen no evidence that he has a plan to turn us in to a football team any time soon.

[qccfc]

I have had 3 "grown up" jobs in my life. For each of them, I was given a 6 month probationary period at the start. One of them even had specific performance measures for the first 3 years and if I missed any of them, I was out.

Slade is under pressure at the moment most definitely. However fans and the owners at the club are under the manager defines everything mentality, whereas a club like Swansea show that with the right structures in place individual manager can come and go, and success can be maintained.

[Jimmy Jimmy]

How long was Slade at Orient for before he got them some how to the play off final ?

[Observer]

Alex Ferguson is an interesting case-study.