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    Thatcher knew about Cyril Smith


    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.

    Any day now we will be informed that Thatcher tried on five different occasions to get a knighthood for Jimmy Savile. Each time her close advisors recommended that she dropped the idea, yet still she persisted with it, finally getting him knighted shortly after she had left office.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529/Cabinet-offi ce-child-abuse-cover-MoS-beats-attempt-No10-gag-VIP-file-sho ws-Thatcher-knew-paedophile-MP-Cyril-Smith.html


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    Did you watch the 'Reinventing the Royals' programme? Interesting study on how the media are shaped and and can shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:13
    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.
    He was a sly one , for sure. Probably had an intricate safety net plan in place

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    the media can determine if we have a red or blue gouverment,thats why rupert and his hounds could influence politicians,police,and the general public.
    voters are slowly getting wise to the westminster power machine and what makes it work.
    cyril smith,jimmy saville,and all the other peedos got away with abusing kids because of the influence and power of the media,which had a big influence over the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:28
    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:13
    Any day now we will be informed that Thatcher tried on five different occasions to get a knighthood for Jimmy Savile. Each time her close advisors recommended that she dropped the idea, yet still she persisted with it, finally getting him knighted shortly after she had left office.
    I don't think its coincidence that all parties mentioned here are dead? Looking at the source, is th? a soft exposure, readying/softening the nation for what will be released in future. I find it hard to believe that Leon Britton also suddenly died when the heat was being turned up on his case. I stand to be corrected if wrong but there no mention of cancer until after his death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:36
    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:28
    Any day now we will be informed that Thatcher tried on five different occasions to get a knighthood for Jimmy Savile. Each time her close advisors recommended that she dropped the idea, yet still she persisted with it, finally getting him knighted shortly after she had left office.
    He was 75. Even if he didn't have cancer (though is a 75 year-old with cancer newsworthy?), it hardly sounds suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:36
    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:28
    Any day now we will be informed that Thatcher tried on five different occasions to get a knighthood for Jimmy Savile. Each time her close advisors recommended that she dropped the idea, yet still she persisted with it, finally getting him knighted shortly after she had left office.
    People sneered at investigative journalists in the alternative media for revealing these stories years ago. Now all of sudden many are waking up to the fact that there is a whole lot of information that the public never get to see, or only get spoon fed it, in dribs and drabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:46
    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:36
    Any day now we will be informed that Thatcher tried on five different occasions to get a knighthood for Jimmy Savile. Each time her close advisors recommended that she dropped the idea, yet still she persisted with it, finally getting him knighted shortly after she had left office.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:28
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529/Cabinet-offi ce-child-abuse-cover-MoS-beats-attempt-No10-gag-VIP-file-sho ws-Thatcher-knew-paedophile-MP-Cyril-Smith.html
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:13
    I suspect it is too big a story that goes very high indeed.
    Though you will be accused of being a conspiracy theorist by same on here who are in denial.

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    I suspect there is more to come,with even higher people involved,it almost seems it was the done thing in that era to take advantage of the vunerable, coloured people ,gays,youngsters,poor.

    In today's world you get exposed,so the privileged and powerful won't get away so easy. Power to the internet I say.

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    I think the problem with some conspiracy theorists is that they are prepared to believe absolutely anything that supports the position they have decided to take regardless of the quality of the sources. Because of this, some of the strong evidence they produce can get lost among the chaff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:52
    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:46
    Any day now we will be informed that Thatcher tried on five different occasions to get a knighthood for Jimmy Savile. Each time her close advisors recommended that she dropped the idea, yet still she persisted with it, finally getting him knighted shortly after she had left office.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:36
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529/Cabinet-offi ce-child-abuse-cover-MoS-beats-attempt-No10-gag-VIP-file-sho ws-Thatcher-knew-paedophile-MP-Cyril-Smith.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:28
    I suspect it is too big a story that goes very high indeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:13
    Perhaps Saville knew enough dirt on the big players to get what he asked for.
    Mao Zedong

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    Call this whacky, as i'd expect nothing less from some.
    Pedophilia is currently trial by media (whether true, false or fabricated) BEFORE trial by Jury. What a powerful control mechanism to keep just about anyone, in any capacity 'in check'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:59
    Call this whacky, as i'd expect nothing less from some.
    Cyril Smith, Leon Brittan etc can't be tried by jury on account of their being dead. The living ones - Rolf Harris, Glitter etc. had the same rights of sub judice as anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:05
    Call this whacky, as i'd expect nothing less from some.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:59
    Pedophilia is currently trial by media (whether true, false or fabricated) BEFORE trial by Jury. What a powerful control mechanism to keep just about anyone, in any capacity 'in check'...
    They are hardly high profile considering some of the names allegedly involved. They are just dangling out a few two-bit, washed up 'celebs' to quench the public's thirst for justice.. perhaps

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    But, and arguably more importantly... did she know about what happened to Etien Velikonja?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:08
    Call this whacky, as i'd expect nothing less from some.
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:05
    Pedophilia is currently trial by media (whether true, false or fabricated) BEFORE trial by Jury. What a powerful control mechanism to keep just about anyone, in any capacity 'in check'...
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:59
    Cyril Smith, Leon Brittan etc can't be tried by jury on account of their being dead. The living ones - Rolf Harris, Glitter etc. had the same rights of sub judice as anyone else.
    So what's your point about trial by media before trial by jury? Who are you thinking of? What do you mean exactly by 'Paedophilia is trial by media before trial by jury'? You're not making your argument very clear. I may probably agree with you but you need to clarify your proposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:13
    Call this whacky, as i'd expect nothing less from some.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:08
    Pedophilia is currently trial by media (whether true, false or fabricated) BEFORE trial by Jury. What a powerful control mechanism to keep just about anyone, in any capacity 'in check'...
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:05
    Cyril Smith, Leon Brittan etc can't be tried by jury on account of their being dead. The living ones - Rolf Harris, Glitter etc. had the same rights of sub judice as anyone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:59
    They are hardly high profile considering some of the names allegedly involved. They are just dangling out a few two-bit, washed up 'celebs' to quench the public's thirst for justice.. perhaps
    Trial by media would alter the public's perception, and certainly taint the character of any accused long before the case ever reached court. In fact by the time the case reached court its fair to say the stereotype would have been applied - after months of speculation. Even if found not guilty the one days media coverage of their innocence would in no way outweigh what had proceeded. There are cases where no media reporting is allowed whatsoever, ironically I think (?) this was the case with the Rigby trial.

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    Re: Thatcher knew about Cyril Smith

    Quote Originally Posted by goslow wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:30

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    Re: Thatcher knew about Cyril Smith

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:57
    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:52
    Any day now we will be informed that Thatcher tried on five different occasions to get a knighthood for Jimmy Savile. Each time her close advisors recommended that she dropped the idea, yet still she persisted with it, finally getting him knighted shortly after she had left office.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:46
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529/Cabinet-offi ce-child-abuse-cover-MoS-beats-attempt-No10-gag-VIP-file-sho ws-Thatcher-knew-paedophile-MP-Cyril-Smith.html
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:36
    I suspect it is too big a story that goes very high indeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:28
    Perhaps Saville knew enough dirt on the big players to get what he asked for.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:13
    Why 'they' didn't just bump him off (like one would imagine they could/would) is a slight mystery.
    I hardly think quoting Mao when it comes to paedophiles is in the best taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:29
    Call this whacky, as i'd expect nothing less from some.
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:13
    Pedophilia is currently trial by media (whether true, false or fabricated) BEFORE trial by Jury. What a powerful control mechanism to keep just about anyone, in any capacity 'in check'...
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:08
    Cyril Smith, Leon Brittan etc can't be tried by jury on account of their being dead. The living ones - Rolf Harris, Glitter etc. had the same rights of sub judice as anyone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:05
    They are hardly high profile considering some of the names allegedly involved. They are just dangling out a few two-bit, washed up 'celebs' to quench the public's thirst for justice.. perhaps
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:59
    So what's your point about trial by media before trial by jury? Who are you thinking of? What do you mean exactly by 'Paedophilia is trial by media before trial by jury'? You're not making your argument very clear. I may probably agree with you but you need to clarify your proposition.
    No media reporting before the Rigby trial? They showed footage of a man covered in blood with a knife in his hand and a dead body on the floor. That's hardly a media blackout. Your argument isn't making a lot of sense. You seem to be throwing in lots of dissociated elements which don't corroborate with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NECS wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:44
    Increasingly we are seeing stories emerging on mainstream media that were covered in the alternative media years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:57
    Any day now we will be informed that Thatcher tried on five different occasions to get a knighthood for Jimmy Savile. Each time her close advisors recommended that she dropped the idea, yet still she persisted with it, finally getting him knighted shortly after she had left office.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:52
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529/Cabinet-offi ce-child-abuse-cover-MoS-beats-attempt-No10-gag-VIP-file-sho ws-Thatcher-knew-paedophile-MP-Cyril-Smith.html
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:46
    I suspect it is too big a story that goes very high indeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:36
    Perhaps Saville knew enough dirt on the big players to get what he asked for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:28
    Why 'they' didn't just bump him off (like one would imagine they could/would) is a slight mystery.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 11:13
    He was a sly one , for sure. Probably had an intricate safety net plan in place
    Within that context the quote is appropriate.

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    When we hear of stories that were suppressed years ago, it has got to make you wonder as to what we are not being told now. The mainstream press must be open to questions about who actually co trols them. It may be goverment or big business or a combination of both.
    Don't believe what you read is an old adage, but one that is more relevant than ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seethatbluebirdfly wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 12:47
    When we hear of stories that were suppressed years ago, it has got to make you wonder as to what we are not being told now. The mainstream press must be open to questions about who actually co trols them. It may be goverment or big business or a combination of both.
    Just one source of many. Anyway this thread is about Dead Pedophiles..

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    Clear hard factual evidence is what is required - so in Politicians case it needs to be either a sworn affidavit or documented 2 way correspondence between two or more parties.

    Labelling someone a child abuser just because you dont like their hair cut, politics or anything else is just stupid.

    Sally Bercow found that out when she jumped on the Lord MacAlpine bandwagon.

    Lets us it all comes out and those that are still alive get the justice their victims never had

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