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Thread: Clarkson incident reported in msm

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    Clarkson incident reported in msm

    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.

    BBC..."fracas"

    Sky News..."incident"

    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"

    Finally today we get...."punch".

    If the msm cannot be relied on to report a simple thing like this properly, then how can we rely upon them to communicate far more serious issues to the public?


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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quarrel

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    BBC..."fracas"
    Big difference from "disagreement" wouldn't you say?

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    Sky News..."incident"
    If it was truly and assault why did it take the producer 5 days to complain about it? Sounds more like hand bags to me, rather than an assault.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:50
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    Sky News..."incident"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"
    The post made the point that msm could not agree themselves on what it was that was "Breaking News".

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:56
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:50
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    Sky News..."incident"
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    Finally today we get...."punch".
    How much consistency do you usually find in the 'alternative' media?

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:56
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:50
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    Sky News..."incident"
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    Finally today we get...."punch".
    It is a story with limited knowledge of what happened, how are they supposed to report it? More and more info is coming out and I am sure each report will use a new more accurate description of what happened, but until then what is wrong with any of the words used?

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:01
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:56
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:50
    Sky News..."incident"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    Finally today we get...."punch".
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    If the msm cannot be relied on to report a simple thing like this properly, then how can we rely upon them to communicate far more serious issues to the public?
    The alternative media tend not to rely on press releases and press handouts. Which, unfortunately because of time constraints, budget and resources cut backs msm increasingly rely on.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:10
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:01
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:56
    Sky News..."incident"
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:50
    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    Finally today we get...."punch".
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    If the msm cannot be relied on to report a simple thing like this properly, then how can we rely upon them to communicate far more serious issues to the public?
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    They all describe the same thing though?
    I was asking about consitency not whether they sometimes get things right.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Has Clarkson been critical of Israel and supportive of Russia recently? A lot of the loons appear to be coming out in some weird defence of him.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:31
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:10
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:01
    Sky News..."incident"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:56
    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:50
    Finally today we get...."punch".
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    If the msm cannot be relied on to report a simple thing like this properly, then how can we rely upon them to communicate far more serious issues to the public?
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    They all describe the same thing though?
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    See also:
    Pepe Escobar, Paul Craig Roberts, John Pilger, Alan Hart, and the late Anthony Lawson to the best of my knowledge, have never been criticised over issues relating to consistency.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:45
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:31
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:10
    Sky News..."incident"
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:01
    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:56
    Finally today we get...."punch".
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:50
    If the msm cannot be relied on to report a simple thing like this properly, then how can we rely upon them to communicate far more serious issues to the public?
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    They all describe the same thing though?
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    See also:
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    Altercation
    I was referring to your initial post that the mainstream news agencies are not consistent in their reports of the Clarkson 'incident'. In a similar vein, the alternative media's interpretations of, say, 9/11 have been wildly inconsistent.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:53
    MSM have given about five separate accounts of why this Sunday's Top Gear programme has been cancelled.
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:45
    BBC..."fracas"
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:31
    Sky News..."incident"
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:10
    Newspapers...."disagreement"...."row"
    Quote Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:01
    Finally today we get...."punch".
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:56
    If the msm cannot be relied on to report a simple thing like this properly, then how can we rely upon them to communicate far more serious issues to the public?
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:50
    They all describe the same thing though?
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:45
    See also:
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:39
    Altercation
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 10:33
    Disagreement
    The example I used was Clarkson. It was used by way of illustration to show what effect msms's shortcomings are, with even a simple story as this one was.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Is there a link to an alternative media site that mentioned a punch before the mainstream?

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:36
    Has Clarkson been critical of Israel and supportive of Russia recently? A lot of the loons appear to be coming out in some weird defence of him.
    Next time you approach the keyboard, lets see if you can be a trifle more productive. How about it?

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:22
    Is there a link to an alternative media site that mentioned a punch before the mainstream?
    Have you looked for one?

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    This is all blown out of proportion.
    There was a buffet, and there was a discussion over whether the drink on offer was a fruit punch or rum punch.
    Jeremy had a sip, and confirmed it was non-alcoholic, and gave while passing some to his mate in the production team, he was bumped, and the punch spilt over the guy.

    It got reported as "Jeremy throws punch at production team member" because what really happened doesn't sell papers.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:24
    Is there a link to an alternative media site that mentioned a punch before the mainstream?
    Quote Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:22
    Have you looked for one?
    No. If you're using this an example of the alternative media's shortcomings I thought you might have one. Otherwise it's not really an example.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:25
    Is there a link to an alternative media site that mentioned a punch before the mainstream?
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:24
    Have you looked for one?
    Quote Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:22
    No. If you're using this an example of the alternative media's shortcomings I thought you might have one. Otherwise it's not really an example.
    Actually it was as an example of msm's shortcomings, as the initial post made clear.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    This manufactured 'news' about the staunch Conservative supporter Jeremy Clarkson has certainly displaced the Thatcher was a pedophile sympathiser story, and prevented it from becoming a main talking point.




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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:23
    Has Clarkson been critical of Israel and supportive of Russia recently? A lot of the loons appear to be coming out in some weird defence of him.
    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 11:36
    I am still waiting for the day that you actually post something on here on your own. 99% of your posts appear to be jumping on other poster's bandwagons.
    It's just so easy when you are involved though.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:31
    Is there a link to an alternative media site that mentioned a punch before the mainstream?
    Quote Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:25
    Have you looked for one?
    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:24
    No. If you're using this an example of the alternative media's shortcomings I thought you might have one. Otherwise it's not really an example.
    Quote Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:22
    Actually it was as an example of msm's shortcomings, as the initial post made clear.
    What are we comparing it to?

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    What other news are the media trying to hide the amount of coverage this has got is ridiculous.

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:32
    This manufactured 'news' about the staunch Conservative supporter Jeremy Clarkson has certainly displaced the Thatcher was a pedophile sympathiser story, and prevebted it from becoming a main talking point.
    https://news.vice.com/article/why-is-the-british-government- still-withholding-files-on-establishment-child-sex-abuse?utm _source=vicenewstwitter

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    Re: Clarkson incident reported in msm

    Quote Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:34
    This manufactured 'news' about the staunch Conservative supporter Jeremy Clarkson has certainly displaced the Thatcher was a pedophile sympathiser story, and prevebted it from becoming a main talking point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Wed, 11 March 2015 12:32
    Some of us are not so easily side-tracked or deflected by that sort of stuff and nonsense, as I am sure you aren't either.
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/03/10/bbc-still-determined-t o-cover-up-the-legacy-of-monster-jimmy-savile/

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