Fair Play for Palestine

[JamesWales]

Israel and Palestine is politics, and football should be above it.

Trying to bar Israel from UEFA will backfire. Football should be above these matters.

[Steve the Tea]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

And if you're going over there to see the game, please be aware that Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Israel claims it as such but nobody recognises their claim, not even the USA. The United Nations refers to West Jerusalem and occupied East Jerusalem. The city's exact status is disputed but in law it is not part of Israel. Here in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority has just banned an Israeli Tourist ad which promotes Jerusalem as part of Israel.

The biggest obstacle to peace is Israel's illegal occupation and especially its illegal colonies in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. If you are near Bethlehem you may see some of them. Please remember that they have no right to be there.

[Colon Man]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

And if you're going over there to see the game, please be aware that Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Israel claims it as such but nobody recognises their claim, not even the USA. The United Nations refers to West Jerusalem and occupied East Jerusalem. The city's exact status is disputed but in law it is not part of Israel. Here in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority has just banned an Israeli Tourist ad which promotes Jerusalem as part of Israel.

The biggest obstacle to peace is Israel's illegal occupation and especially its illegal colonies in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. If you are near Bethlehem you may see some of them. Please remember that they have no right to be there.

Your grasp on both reality and history is non-existent. Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel for 3,000 years (1,700 yrs BEFORE ISLAM CAME INTO BEING). Not surprisingly, Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran.

As I said above, it's all far more complicated than that. A country's name 3000 years ago doesn't make it a valid state today. Thirty years ago, there was a place called Yugoslavia.

[JamesWales]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

And if you're going over there to see the game, please be aware that Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Israel claims it as such but nobody recognises their claim, not even the USA. The United Nations refers to West Jerusalem and occupied East Jerusalem. The city's exact status is disputed but in law it is not part of Israel. Here in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority has just banned an Israeli Tourist ad which promotes Jerusalem as part of Israel.

The biggest obstacle to peace is Israel's illegal occupation and especially its illegal colonies in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. If you are near Bethlehem you may see some of them. Please remember that they have no right to be there.

Your grasp on both reality and history is non-existent. Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel for 3,000 years (1,700 yrs BEFORE ISLAM CAME INTO BEING). Not surprisingly, Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran.

You should email the UN and tell them you've resolved the middle east.

[alfie sherwood]

Israel and Palestine is politics, and football should be above it.

The sporting sanctions inflicted on S Africa are widely accepted to have helped hasten the end of the apartheid regime.

[The sheep report]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

And if you're going over there to see the game, please be aware that Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Israel claims it as such but nobody recognises their claim, not even the USA. The United Nations refers to West Jerusalem and occupied East Jerusalem. The city's exact status is disputed but in law it is not part of Israel. Here in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority has just banned an Israeli Tourist ad which promotes Jerusalem as part of Israel.

The biggest obstacle to peace is Israel's illegal occupation and especially its illegal colonies in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. If you are near Bethlehem you may see some of them. Please remember that they have no right to be there.

Your grasp on both reality and history is non-existent. Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel for 3,000 years (1,700 yrs BEFORE ISLAM CAME INTO BEING). Not surprisingly, Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran.

There is nothing wrong, inaccurate, or disparaging in that statement. It is not disrespectful to anyone or their beliefs. It is a simple matter of fact.

[Colon Man]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

And if you're going over there to see the game, please be aware that Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Israel claims it as such but nobody recognises their claim, not even the USA. The United Nations refers to West Jerusalem and occupied East Jerusalem. The city's exact status is disputed but in law it is not part of Israel. Here in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority has just banned an Israeli Tourist ad which promotes Jerusalem as part of Israel.

The biggest obstacle to peace is Israel's illegal occupation and especially its illegal colonies in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. If you are near Bethlehem you may see some of them. Please remember that they have no right to be there.

Your grasp on both reality and history is non-existent. Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel for 3,000 years (1,700 yrs BEFORE ISLAM CAME INTO BEING). Not surprisingly, Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran.

So, the state of Israel was formed in 1948. Therefore it has been a recognised state for nearly 70 years. What's your point?

[DP1]

Be asking to get them banned from Eurovision next ..... the arabs do not help the "palestines"....why do they not give them some land?

[The sheep report]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

And if you're going over there to see the game, please be aware that Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Israel claims it as such but nobody recognises their claim, not even the USA. The United Nations refers to West Jerusalem and occupied East Jerusalem. The city's exact status is disputed but in law it is not part of Israel. Here in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority has just banned an Israeli Tourist ad which promotes Jerusalem as part of Israel.

The biggest obstacle to peace is Israel's illegal occupation and especially its illegal colonies in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. If you are near Bethlehem you may see some of them. Please remember that they have no right to be there.

Your grasp on both reality and history is non-existent. Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel for 3,000 years (1,700 yrs BEFORE ISLAM CAME INTO BEING). Not surprisingly, Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran.

I think you will find that Israel became a state in 1948. Prior to that there was no state of Israel.

You've made it. It wasn't a recognised state before 70 years ago.

[Gwynedd Blue]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

Thanks for that. I think that if people knew more about the history of this conflict and the motives of the protagonists, they would be more supportive of Palestine and more critical of APARTHEID Israeli style. Most people will not agree with us - but don't let it get to you.

[The sheep report]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

And if you're going over there to see the game, please be aware that Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Israel claims it as such but nobody recognises their claim, not even the USA. The United Nations refers to West Jerusalem and occupied East Jerusalem. The city's exact status is disputed but in law it is not part of Israel. Here in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority has just banned an Israeli Tourist ad which promotes Jerusalem as part of Israel.

During the Romanian era, the name of Palestine used to be called on all the sacred land,then it developed to be the official name of this district since the era of Hadrian, thus this name grew to be widely used in the Christian church, where they used to refer to it quite often in the Christian pilgrims reports. On the other hands, Palestine used to be a part of Bilad Al-Sham during the Islamic era."

[JamesWales]

Israel and Palestine is politics, and football should be above it.

Trying to bar Israel from UEFA will backfire. Football should be above these matters.

I say, they should be kept within the international community, rather than ostracised, and I firmly believe in a Palestinian state.

[The sheep report]

Israel and Palestine is politics, and football should be above it.

Trying to bar Israel from UEFA will backfire. Football should be above these matters.

That's a load of old bollocks James. Football has a global profile that means it can serve a very useful role in raising important issues.

They have already been removed from the Asian Group in 1974 and were only admitted into European football some twenty years later.

[Colon Man]

Israel and Palestine is politics, and football should be above it.

Trying to bar Israel from UEFA will backfire. Football should be above these matters.

That's a load of old bollocks James. Football has a global profile that means it can serve a very useful role in raising important issues.

The flimsy "sport and politics don't mix" line has always been such a cop out.

Do you think it may have been connected to hoe welcome the team/fans would have been made in the Asian group?

[JamesWales]

Israel and Palestine is politics, and football should be above it.

Trying to bar Israel from UEFA will backfire. Football should be above these matters.

That's a load of old bollocks James. Football has a global profile that means it can serve a very useful role in raising important issues.

The flimsy "sport and politics don't mix" line has always been such a cop out.

Football should break down barriers and bring countries together, not create more conflict.

[jon1959]

Israel and Palestine is politics, and football should be above it.

Trying to bar Israel from UEFA will backfire. Football should be above these matters.

[The sheep report]

Israel and Palestine is politics, and football should be above it.

Trying to bar Israel from UEFA will backfire. Football should be above these matters.

That's a load of old bollocks James. Football has a global profile that means it can serve a very useful role in raising important issues.

The flimsy "sport and politics don't mix" line has always been such a cop out.

The sporting sanctions inflicted on S Africa are widely accepted to have helped hasten the end of the apartheid regime.

It kind of makes arranging a fixture list slightly awkward when the drop phosphorus on you one day, and want to play football with you the next.

[Jimmy the Jock]

If you'd like to hear the case for suspending Israel from FIFA and how that could help bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine, you are welcome to attend: http://tinyurl.com/oybsmt3.

And if you're going over there to see the game, please be aware that Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Israel claims it as such but nobody recognises their claim, not even the USA. The United Nations refers to West Jerusalem and occupied East Jerusalem. The city's exact status is disputed but in law it is not part of Israel. Here in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority has just banned an Israeli Tourist ad which promotes Jerusalem as part of Israel.

The biggest obstacle to peace is Israel's illegal occupation and especially its illegal colonies in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. If you are near Bethlehem you may see some of them. Please remember that they have no right to be there.

Actually not me ...You.

[PugFugly]

So, the state of Israel was formed in 1948. Therefore it has been a recognised state for nearly 70 years. What's your point?

You've made it. It wasn't a recognised state before 70 years ago.

And when did Palestine become a state?

[PugFugly]

No. More likely connected to Israel's propensity for none stop conflict confrontation and genocidal wars on its neighbours.

Wow, what nonsense.

[The sheep report]

So, the state of Israel was formed in 1948. Therefore it has been a recognised state for nearly 70 years. What's your point?

You've made it. It wasn't a recognised state before 70 years ago.

And when did Palestine become a state?

If Israel became a state 70 years ago, then the land outside of those borders should logically be Palestine.

[The sheep report]

No. More likely connected to Israel's propensity for none stop conflict confrontation and genocidal wars on its neighbours.

Wow, what nonsense.

Evidenced by?

[PugFugly]

No. More likely connected to Israel's propensity for none stop conflict confrontation and genocidal wars on its neighbours.

Wow, what nonsense.

Evidenced by?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...volving_Israel

[The sheep report]

No. More likely connected to Israel's propensity for none stop conflict confrontation and genocidal wars on its neighbours.

Wow, what nonsense.

Evidenced by?

Historical fact?

You might wish to research Plan D also known as the Dalet Plan, which details what was intended to happen to the local Palestinian population.

[PugFugly]

"The intent of Plan Dalet is subject to much controversy, with historians on one side asserting that it was entirely defensive, while other historians assert that the plan aimed at the expulsion, sometimes called an ethnic cleansing, on the grounds that this was an integral part of a planned strategy."

So historians can't agree, but you know the truth?