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    Government & Media

    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/12/nhs-agrees-la rgest-ever-privatisation-deal-to-tackle-backlog

    Lets all celebrate the mainstream media


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    The US government employed the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pass through some unpopular bill. Not quite the same but shows how it can work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:38
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    I don't see what the Clarkson matter has to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:47
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    The Media report celebrity trivia whilst ignoring the issues that's what it has to do with Clarkson. Why were they not investigating what must have been a fairly easy lead, censorship perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:54
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:47
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/12/nhs-agrees-la rgest-ever-privatisation-deal-to-tackle-backlog
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:38
    Lets all celebrate the mainstream media

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 12:03
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:54
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/12/nhs-agrees-la rgest-ever-privatisation-deal-to-tackle-backlog
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:47
    Lets all celebrate the mainstream media
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:38
    It's in the mainstream media, and if you don't like it, you don't vote for the party(ies) in question. Thats democracy.
    Real democracy would mean openness and referendums on real policies. The fact that people feel totally removed and uninterested in politics is clear, and makes it easier for the grey suits to do as they please. I can't see how we will ever have a true democracy until this is the case.

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    I thought the intended purpose of the Clarkson story was to bury the Thatcher one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 13:27
    I thought the intended purpose of the Clarkson story was to bury the Thatcher one?
    Well, I'd certainly be willing to believe that he might be one of the 1st in line to offer his 'distraction services' for Maggie and for the Tory Party.

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    NHS Supply Chain operated by DHL.

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    Has the alternative media been pushing this story the last few months?

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    Whilst 650,000 people voted in favour of voting to reinstate bigot Jeremy Clarkson, well done to the other 63 million population who chose not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richyrich wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 17:28
    Has the alternative media been pushing this story the last few months?
    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31883683

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue109 wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 17:37
    Whilst 650,000 people voted in favour of voting to reinstate bigot Jeremy Clarkson, well done to the other 63 million population who chose not to.
    I don't think 63 million people watch Top Gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 18:50
    Whilst 650,000 people voted in favour of voting to reinstate bigot Jeremy Clarkson, well done to the other 63 million population who chose not to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue109 wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 17:37
    I don't think 63 million people watch Top Gear
    It was an ironic/Clarkson joke m8 - he's made a career out of what people who think his ignorance is funny - he's a bigot, racist/homophobic/mysogysnist/ hates welsh (is there a word?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue109 wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 19:24
    Whilst 650,000 people voted in favour of voting to reinstate bigot Jeremy Clarkson, well done to the other 63 million population who chose not to.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 18:50
    I don't think 63 million people watch Top Gear
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue109 wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 17:37
    It was an ironic/Clarkson joke m8 - he's made a career out of what people who think his ignorance is funny - he's a bigot, racist/homophobic/mysogysnist/ hates welsh (is there a word?)
    The man is an expletive

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:38
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    So you're complaining about the mainstream media because they didn't report something that was in the guardian??

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    Quote Originally Posted by redjk wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 21:56
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    Na, i'm having a whinge about the fact that all this was reported after the event. The guardian are the only 'newspaper' source I saw that covered it, every other was reporting Clarkson is a dinosaur - his words seemingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 15 March 2015 00:46
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by redjk wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 21:56
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/12/nhs-agrees-la rgest-ever-privatisation-deal-to-tackle-backlog
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:38
    Lets all celebrate the mainstream media
    They are always sneaking things through before we get a chance to hear or do anything about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R wrote on Sun, 15 March 2015 01:00
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 15 March 2015 00:46
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/12/nhs-agrees-la rgest-ever-privatisation-deal-to-tackle-backlog
    Quote Originally Posted by redjk wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 21:56
    Lets all celebrate the mainstream media
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:38
    So you're complaining about the mainstream media because they didn't report something that was in the guardian??
    Time to wake up to the fact people, your government hates you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 15 March 2015 01:09
    Whilst half a million people in Britain sign a petition to re-instate a bigot television presenter, whipped up by 'media ferenzy' the real issues go pretty much unnoticed. How come this was not even mentioned until it was a done deal, and how can a government just 2 months from (probably) being voted out of office be allowed to let this happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R wrote on Sun, 15 March 2015 01:00
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/12/nhs-agrees-la rgest-ever-privatisation-deal-to-tackle-backlog
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 15 March 2015 00:46
    Lets all celebrate the mainstream media
    Quote Originally Posted by redjk wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 21:56
    So you're complaining about the mainstream media because they didn't report something that was in the guardian??
    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 11:38
    Na, i'm having a whinge about the fact that all this was reported after the event. The guardian are the only 'newspaper' source I saw that covered it, every other was reporting Clarkson is a dinosaur - his words seemingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 16:55
    NHS Supply Chain operated by DHL.
    It's a joint venture between the NHS and DHL

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    Now I've read the article, I have to say it's predictable media scaremongering again.

    What has happened here is that NHS Supply chain (which is a joint NHS/DHL venture) which is basically the organisation who organises the procurement and logistics needs of NHS hospitals has created a framework for hospitals to use. A framework in this context, is a public sector procurement tool aimed at establishing framework agreements which allows public sectors bodies to contract/outsource goods and services with suppliers more easily, without having to go through a more onerous, full EU procurement exercise. It is NOT "selling off huge chunks of the NHS" or "privatisation", it is simply a contract which makes it easier for hospitals to outsource services IF THEY WANT TO.

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    By the way, the article is unclear (shocker), about when exactly the framework starts. Assuming the award notice has just been published, the exercise would've commenced, and been made public, at least two months ago, probably longer, with the publication date of the final award being fixed and made public knowledge at that time.
    So unless Jeremy Clarkson was in cahoots with the government to deliberately get himself suspended in order to "bury" some news stories, this whole thread is a yet again, a load of bollocks, contributed to in the main by people who have no idea what they're talking about and taking predetermined political positions. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 18:50
    Whilst 650,000 people voted in favour of voting to reinstate bigot Jeremy Clarkson, well done to the other 63 million population who chose not to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue109 wrote on Sat, 14 March 2015 17:37
    I don't think 63 million people watch Top Gear
    Nowhere near as many people have signed it, but I just have and it's there now for anyone on here who feels the same about the infantile clown as I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Sun, 15 March 2015 04:46
    By the way, the article is unclear (shocker), about when exactly the framework starts. Assuming the award notice has just been published, the exercise would've commenced, and been made public, at least two months ago, probably longer, with the publication date of the final award being fixed and made public knowledge at that time.
    You have to bare in mind that you're probably the only person in this thread whose read the link

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