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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:18
    Its not just a sense of entitlement that's the issue, its that's its a legal entitlement as well.
    of course they do, but god help the politician that targets the block pension vote. the triple lock is madness and arithmetic says it is unsustainable.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:10
    Gluey mush - 1.5 trillion in debt , 30 billion a year in debt interest to pay. The deficit for 2013/14 was approx 100billion (you can work out the interest payments yourself)
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:51
    The words in the sh1t spring to mind. All parties have signed up 30 billion of savings - it doesnt matter who you vote really - unless you have found a way to reduce the deficit without raising taxes and cutting back on what the Govt spends
    Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 11:26
    I went to see my doctor today and was given a prescription. When I was in the pharmacy I asked whether the medicine was available to buy and she said yes, so I bought it for £3.50. I have no idea how much a prescription costs the NHS but if doctors stopped giving them out wily nily the NHS would be in a better position than it is now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 10:06
    I believe it costs £7 to cover the cost of a prescription, not including the drugs. So you saved them atleast £7.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2015-32519586

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:41
    Gluey mush - 1.5 trillion in debt , 30 billion a year in debt interest to pay. The deficit for 2013/14 was approx 100billion (you can work out the interest payments yourself)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:10
    The words in the sh1t spring to mind. All parties have signed up 30 billion of savings - it doesnt matter who you vote really - unless you have found a way to reduce the deficit without raising taxes and cutting back on what the Govt spends
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:51
    I went to see my doctor today and was given a prescription. When I was in the pharmacy I asked whether the medicine was available to buy and she said yes, so I bought it for £3.50. I have no idea how much a prescription costs the NHS but if doctors stopped giving them out wily nily the NHS would be in a better position than it is now.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 11:26
    I believe it costs £7 to cover the cost of a prescription, not including the drugs. So you saved them atleast £7.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 10:06
    the point being made was that many in this country have a sense of entitlement and use state resources irrespective of whether they need them or not.
    Jesus Chist no-wonder they've been keeping silent

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:18
    Its not just a sense of entitlement that's the issue, its that's its a legal entitlement as well.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by surge wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:20
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:09
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/danny-alexan der-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:00
    So, you are now choosing to quote a Liberal Democrat in a left wing publication on a fictional Conservative policy. Desperate bottom of the barrel stuff now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:55
    Where are the welfare cuts coming from then? There has to be some, they have made it 100% crystal clear they will be cutting the welfare bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 08:15
    Croesy is quite happy for the Tories to just say 12bn of cuts to welfare without telling anyone where the first pound comes from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 07:57
    They could say 120bn of cuts and he would love it.
    Hit the nail on the head, LAbour HAVE and WILL increase the tax on the working person (its what they do). But yet we dont hear about that side of it.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 14:05
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    Quote Originally Posted by surge wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:20
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/danny-alexan der-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:09
    So, you are now choosing to quote a Liberal Democrat in a left wing publication on a fictional Conservative policy. Desperate bottom of the barrel stuff now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:00
    Where are the welfare cuts coming from then? There has to be some, they have made it 100% crystal clear they will be cutting the welfare bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:55
    Croesy is quite happy for the Tories to just say 12bn of cuts to welfare without telling anyone where the first pound comes from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 08:15
    They could say 120bn of cuts and he would love it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 07:57
    Have any of the parties who have said that there are going to be significant cuts in spending - Labour included - yet said where the cuts are going to come from?
    That left wing enough for you?

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:41
    Gluey mush - 1.5 trillion in debt , 30 billion a year in debt interest to pay. The deficit for 2013/14 was approx 100billion (you can work out the interest payments yourself)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:10
    The words in the sh1t spring to mind. All parties have signed up 30 billion of savings - it doesnt matter who you vote really - unless you have found a way to reduce the deficit without raising taxes and cutting back on what the Govt spends
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:51
    I went to see my doctor today and was given a prescription. When I was in the pharmacy I asked whether the medicine was available to buy and she said yes, so I bought it for £3.50. I have no idea how much a prescription costs the NHS but if doctors stopped giving them out wily nily the NHS would be in a better position than it is now.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 11:26
    I believe it costs £7 to cover the cost of a prescription, not including the drugs. So you saved them atleast £7.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 10:06
    the point being made was that many in this country have a sense of entitlement and use state resources irrespective of whether they need them or not.
    to throw a cat amongst the pigeons, can't really see a problem with that although back to my point earlier, without children we have no economic output in the future. Should that be recognised or not?

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 14:40
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 14:05
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/danny-alexan der-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits
    Quote Originally Posted by surge wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:20
    So, you are now choosing to quote a Liberal Democrat in a left wing publication on a fictional Conservative policy. Desperate bottom of the barrel stuff now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:09
    Where are the welfare cuts coming from then? There has to be some, they have made it 100% crystal clear they will be cutting the welfare bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:00
    Croesy is quite happy for the Tories to just say 12bn of cuts to welfare without telling anyone where the first pound comes from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:55
    They could say 120bn of cuts and he would love it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 08:15
    Have any of the parties who have said that there are going to be significant cuts in spending - Labour included - yet said where the cuts are going to come from?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 07:57
    The answer, as you well know, is no they haven't.
    You have got it all wrong. Labour tax everyone, not the rich. They add taxes and stealth taxes to anything they can. Its the common person who ends up paying for labours spending.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:35
    Well the polls are so close now, who knows if the Tory party will get a chance to do any of this anyway.
    North Cardiff looking ever increasing Red

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:02
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    They (Alexander and Cameron) can debate it in opposition - if Alexander keeps his seat.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:09
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:00
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/danny-alexan der-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:55
    So, you are now choosing to quote a Liberal Democrat in a left wing publication on a fictional Conservative policy. Desperate bottom of the barrel stuff now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 08:15
    Where are the welfare cuts coming from then? There has to be some, they have made it 100% crystal clear they will be cutting the welfare bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 07:57
    Croesy is quite happy for the Tories to just say 12bn of cuts to welfare without telling anyone where the first pound comes from.
    True Croesy - which is why those parties will not get my vote.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Loya Jirga wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 15:57
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:09
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/danny-alexan der-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:00
    So, you are now choosing to quote a Liberal Democrat in a left wing publication on a fictional Conservative policy. Desperate bottom of the barrel stuff now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:55
    Where are the welfare cuts coming from then? There has to be some, they have made it 100% crystal clear they will be cutting the welfare bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 08:15
    Croesy is quite happy for the Tories to just say 12bn of cuts to welfare without telling anyone where the first pound comes from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 07:57
    They could say 120bn of cuts and he would love it.
    TUSC standing in your neck of the woods then is it?

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Anybody not voting blue next week is just voting for an end to our great nation.

    Why cannot people see it?

    The Tories need to bang this drum louder and louder until it is ear splitting.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 15:58
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Loya Jirga wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 15:57
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/danny-alexan der-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:09
    So, you are now choosing to quote a Liberal Democrat in a left wing publication on a fictional Conservative policy. Desperate bottom of the barrel stuff now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:00
    Where are the welfare cuts coming from then? There has to be some, they have made it 100% crystal clear they will be cutting the welfare bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:55
    Croesy is quite happy for the Tories to just say 12bn of cuts to welfare without telling anyone where the first pound comes from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 08:15
    They could say 120bn of cuts and he would love it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 07:57
    Have any of the parties who have said that there are going to be significant cuts in spending - Labour included - yet said where the cuts are going to come from?
    Nope. I think it's time to start investing (the growth figures back this up for me) - so I will vote for one of the parties that says austerity needs to end.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Loya Jirga wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 16:08
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 15:58
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/danny-alexan der-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits
    Quote Originally Posted by Loya Jirga wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 15:57
    So, you are now choosing to quote a Liberal Democrat in a left wing publication on a fictional Conservative policy. Desperate bottom of the barrel stuff now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:09
    Where are the welfare cuts coming from then? There has to be some, they have made it 100% crystal clear they will be cutting the welfare bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:00
    Croesy is quite happy for the Tories to just say 12bn of cuts to welfare without telling anyone where the first pound comes from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:55
    They could say 120bn of cuts and he would love it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 08:15
    Have any of the parties who have said that there are going to be significant cuts in spending - Labour included - yet said where the cuts are going to come from?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 07:57
    The answer, as you well know, is no they haven't.
    You cant keep "investing" money you don't actually have though. Until we have sorted out the defecit and the debt is starting t come down then we need to be very careful about what and how we invest.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cretin Hop wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 16:04
    Anybody not voting blue next week is just voting for an end to our great nation.
    I wonder - what would they have made of your Conservative posturing?

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 17:33
    Anybody not voting blue next week is just voting for an end to our great nation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cretin Hop wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 16:04
    Why cannot people see it?

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 17:45
    Anybody not voting blue next week is just voting for an end to our great nation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 17:33
    Why cannot people see it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cretin Hop wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 16:04
    The Tories need to bang this drum louder and louder until it is ear splitting.
    However, my thinking there was what The Ramones would make of CH! Not the other way around.

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Now you've explained it like that... #feelsabitstupid

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    Re: Families next on the Tory hit list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 15:35
    According to Danny Alexander ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 14:40
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/29/danny-alexan der-tory-plans-welfare-cuts-child-benefits
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 14:05
    So, you are now choosing to quote a Liberal Democrat in a left wing publication on a fictional Conservative policy. Desperate bottom of the barrel stuff now.
    Quote Originally Posted by surge wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:20
    Where are the welfare cuts coming from then? There has to be some, they have made it 100% crystal clear they will be cutting the welfare bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:09
    Croesy is quite happy for the Tories to just say 12bn of cuts to welfare without telling anyone where the first pound comes from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 13:00
    They could say 120bn of cuts and he would love it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 12:55
    Have any of the parties who have said that there are going to be significant cuts in spending - Labour included - yet said where the cuts are going to come from?
    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 08:15
    The answer, as you well know, is no they haven't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Thu, 30 April 2015 07:57
    I'm most interested in Labour's plans for tax and the Tory plan for cuts.
    Oh no wait that was the Tories

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